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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:23:00 -
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For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. Armor tanking isn't viable. our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. Slots on suits are horrid. Lack of variety. |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
98
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:25:00 -
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I got HMG rapid reload prof and I like my heavy suit :D taking a while to kill people but I like it still :D |
Chaos Carl
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
2
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:25:00 -
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we got nerfed and made useless as a class. might aswell remove the heavy suit and turn this game in to a new COD |
MassiveNine
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
150
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:29:00 -
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It's pretty pathetic what they've done to the heavy this build. I can't imagine what was going through CCP's head when they decided that nerfing the damage on proto to below standard was a good idea. It also seems they haven't done anything about our horrible bullet spread. The description of the heavy is the exact opposite of what they've done to it. How fair is it that I'm now restricted to sitting on an objective worrying because some shotgun scout might get into my optimal range. I shouldn't have to worry about anyone being in my optimal range, I should just be able to pull the trigger and be done with it. The fact that I even have to worry AT ALL about someone being in my optimal range is... well, a joke. Oh no, that person got to close to me, too bad I can't run away. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1417
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:30:00 -
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This is my honest review on the weapon and class.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73100&find=unread
Let me know if I hit the nail on the head, or did I miss something. |
Waruiko DUST
G I A N T EoN.
95
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:31:00 -
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As a logi I resent the idea that armor tanking is useless to heavies... But yes currently its prohibitive to get into a suit that can make use of armor for heavies now that they are all 50/50 armor shields. You need to get into the proto sentinel before you can get your HP high enough for a major impact, and then you'll be stuck to the ground from using so many plates. On the upside if you drop 4 complex reps in those lows after skills you have 25 HP/sec local rep.
I've also been told that the burst HMG had its damage cut by half. |
Nazz'Dragg
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
10
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:36:00 -
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I'm still experimenting but HMG really seem a bit **** now. Forge guns on the other hand are the same as ever. Perhaps they are where it's at now. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:36:00 -
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Need more feedback! This list will be going straight to CCP and I will be giving out copies so others can spam it at them till they get how the effed up. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
342
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:37:00 -
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Pretty much everything about heavies has been said already.
HMGs = useless; nerf'd into nothingness
Armor tanking = still not a viable option
One good thing I guess is that the prices for everything were balanced out
The only point to the heavy's existence is the forge gun..... |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:42:00 -
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Looking for more feedback |
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Caineghis Beoulve
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
2
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:43:00 -
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HMG should have range or damage not both, if we have range we should deal les damage, if the range is poor we should compensate that by having a high damage weapong that could destroy in those 10 to 15 mts.
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Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
78
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:48:00 -
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The weapon is garbage because of the range nerf and the damage nerf ( around 12-14% dmg nerf)
The hmg still misses too many shots and I am good at aiming
putting any type of armor plate on the suit makes us move at the pace of a slug
heavy suits need a cpu buff
aiming with the hmg feels off now |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1419
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:50:00 -
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SoTa I'll give you my opinion.
The nerf with range and damage is compounded by the bullet spread. You can't tell what the problem is cuz CCP went and nerf 2 things at once while leaving bullet spread as it was. At least so it seems. I can't tell if the spread is buffed... if it was then loooool.
They NEED to buff either range, or the bullet spread. You can't see the range cuz your bullets are all over the place past 10m. |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organization
165
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:50:00 -
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Nerfed hmg.. Thx 3 new light weapons,1 new side arm 0 new heavy weapons... Thx No large capacity grenade... Thx 6 new suits, none of which are heavy... Gee guys thx. Forced to armor tank? Awesome. As things were anyone with an AR and a lazer could gun us down without going to half armor, now we won't eve be able to shoot back or run. Basically heavies are easy targets.
What did we do to you guys to deserve this? Do you hate us? Seriously, why are you guys doing this? Please tell us. I would better about this if you told me that you hate us and want us to play something else. Atleast I could have closure.
CCMON CCP!!! HOW MANY THREADS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE?? PLEASE ANSWER US!! WE KNOW YOU HAVE READ ALL OF THESE!! SERIOUSLY GUYS WTF! |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:52:00 -
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The range is sad but manageable if it wasn't for the damage nerf. But the big one people are starting to clue in on is the straife speed at close quarters is pathetic, every other suit including the logie can out straife us at close quarters. The spread makes getting hits at 25+ meters very inconsistent. Overall it just isn't any fun to play anymore. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:59:00 -
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List is updated. If there's more feedback I'd love to hear it. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1421
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:03:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Nerfed hmg.. Thx 3 new light weapons,1 new side arm 0 new heavy weapons... Thx No large capacity grenade... Thx 6 new suits, none of which are heavy... Gee guys thx. Forced to armor tank? Awesome. As things were anyone with an AR and a lazer could gun us down without going to half armor, now we won't eve be able to shoot back or run. Basically heavies are easy targets.
What did we do to you guys to deserve this? Do you hate us? Seriously, why are you guys doing this? Please tell us. I would better about this if you told me that you hate us and want us to play something else. Atleast I could have closure.
CCMON CCP!!! HOW MANY THREADS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE?? PLEASE ANSWER US!! WE KNOW YOU HAVE READ ALL OF THESE!! SERIOUSLY GUYS WTF!
So passionate
+1 |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organization
167
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:04:00 -
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I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1426
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:08:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys.
They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:09:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Severance Pay wrote:I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG You're using proto HMG? Why? STD is almost better lol |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1426
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:11:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Severance Pay wrote:I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG You're using proto HMG? Why? STD is almost better lol
Nah i didn't buy Proto HMG's... I was using Adv today. Using Proto and dying 2-3 times = no profit. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
253
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:14:00 -
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Nerfing range AND damage is the issue. If they would have done one or the other, we'd be okay. Not only do our shots not hit because of spread, but the enemy has to be two feet any and even then it's tough to bring them down.
Maps play to AR styles with a cover-empty-cover format. Heavies can't get close without going in the open and can't hit from range because of the nerf.
The suits are only good for being stationary. I feel like I'm in a blaster turret
Boundless HMGs = pre-Uprising HMGs without Sharpshooter and damage mods
No new suits.
Armor tank only.
The biggest issue is the HMGs total lack of effectiveness. I can deal with a sub-par suit. I can't deal with a sub-par suit and weapon that makes a Militia AR look like a Duvolle. That being said, I'm only using ARs on my heavy suit until they buff the HMG. Using an HMG is absolutely worthless right now. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:14:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Severance Pay wrote:I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG You're using proto HMG? Why? STD is almost better lol Nah i didn't buy Proto HMG's... I was using Adv today. Using Proto and dying 2-3 times = no profit. I'll probably be doing the same next week. I'm done for this week though - I still destroy pubs, but it's turned into a boss fight trying to be where I was a day ago. And by boss fight - I mean there's a set amount of decisions I can make that will put me in a good situation to deal dmg and if I don't follow said pattern I get destroyed. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
531
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:17:00 -
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Reserved for when I finish dl and try on alt. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:27:00 -
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Bump for more feedback I can use to fight CCP with. |
hartnixen
Planetary Response Organization
1
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:31:00 -
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Heavy and HMG is soo ruind now, if your new i whould not tutch it whit a 10 foot pole.
Suits lost slots HMG do dmg up to 16.5 meters, and very little dmg i might ad. Totaly waisted 9 mill SP on heavy HMG build.
Starting on scratch if i come back to play as a assult coz thay are overpimped |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
215
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:32:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle
Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:33:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
215
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:36:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks.
Hahaha keep crying. Perhaps if ya cry loud enough just MAYBE we will give you buff and advantages over the good players to keep you relevant :) |
Gelan Corbaine
BetaMax. CRONOS.
142
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:36:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain!
............ no .....just .....not going to even bother.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:40:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. Hahaha keep crying. Perhaps if ya cry loud enough just MAYBE we will give you buff and advantages over the good players to keep you relevant :) Let those good players know I'm thankful for there effort to keep me and my class relevant. But why are you speaking for good players? You really should let them speak for themselves ;) |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:52:00 -
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Still looking for more feedback! |
Big miku
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:11:00 -
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Well ****, that sucks. Looks like I fo reals am not rolling Heavy.
Haha, note that you will not get you SP back if they ever choose to release something GOOD for the heavy.
Logi master race here I come. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1428
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:14:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. Hahaha keep crying. Perhaps if ya cry loud enough just MAYBE we will give you buff and advantages over the good players to keep you relevant :) Let those good players know I'm thankful for there effort to keep me and my class relevant. But why are you speaking for good players? You really should let them speak for themselves ;)
He's the cheerleader, it's his job to go about doing what he's doing
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Nazz'Dragg
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
10
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:53:00 -
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Oh Oh, the amarr sentinel heavy dropsuit is completely useless when the the basic drop suit has a better slot layout. And lets don't even get started on the bloody useless racial skills. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:16:00 -
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It looks like the Heavy won't even be viable for CBs with how they are right now, heck they're barely decent in pubs. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:50:00 -
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Thread updated - if you have anymore feedback post it here. Number gripes on heavy weapons or suits as well. |
Talbain Sigmund
Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:09:00 -
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So yeah. I'm pretty garbage at FPS games. But up till yesterday I liked trudging around in my fattysuit and pointing a HMG at someone and hoping for the best. Investments in the effective range skill really paid off with an HMG for me. Today however I immediately went about how to figure out skilling up for the equipment I ran on my previous fattysuits. Which boiled down to 3 on all the equipment skills for shield, armor, gun, and dropsuit. And 5s on armor HP, shield HP and weaponry. That's about when I noticed that I couldn't have my sever logistics set up on the side even though I ran it with all militia gear BPOs for a free funsuit.
So what if I'm down to 1 suit set up and Most of my skills are gone. As long as my fattysuit is fun I'll manage. So I took my fattysuit and cotton candy gun out to play and the fun is not happening. Everything sounds and looks sexier but I'm literally having no fun. So it looks like I'm shelving DUST for the foreseeable future till changes come down the line. Maybe I'll have enough passive SP to run more than 1 setup by that point. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:35:00 -
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Bump for more feedback. |
Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:44:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. I believe camping and defending curtain areas as well as AV are the main duties of a heavy anyway. |
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:51:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. I believe camping and defending curtain areas as well as AV are the main duties of a heavy anyway. That's be fine if it was our main duties. But now there's no choice at all. To go outside of CCP's wishes of every heavy standing still and camping would mean certain death.
Love watching logi's go 24/2 though. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
441
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:57:00 -
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my biggest complaint about the Heavy is that we only have Ammar to choose...
I really wish that at a respec, all were given the chance to choose where they wanted to go, it seems only Assault and logi type players were given the tools to go where they wanted.
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Grimmnyr Odynson
WarRavens Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:15:00 -
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Just to parrot what's being said, with the removal of SS, the nerf to range and damage as well as the spread being so large you can't actually hit anything, HMG are useless except on the tightest maps. Otherwise, a Heavy with an AR can do your job better, from a farther distance, with better accuracy. |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
168
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:31:00 -
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I would be happy with a small range increase and a bigger turning speed. And more ammo please! |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
49
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:31:00 -
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Just looking at the suit's races, I can see CCP didn't put much effort into them. Did they tested it or just check THE numbers?
I am glad summer's here already.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:35:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Just looking at the suit's races, I can see CCP didn't put much effort into them. Did they tested it or just check THE numbers?
I am glad summer's here already.
CCP never tests anything - can't you tell by the Uprising build? |
Jastad
Eliters
5
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:41:00 -
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Dear fellow Heavy i don't think it's just "that" bad, al least for me. even in Cromo i didnt have SS e SSpro so, for my gamestyle, no bigger difference from Cromo to UPRS, except one. Now when an ARBoy shoot me i can shot him back !!! no more extra range. But now i'm dying a lot lot lot less versus PROTOBEARS e BIGNAME player, and starting to kill people that were immortal (for me ) in CROMO Just my opinion for now
OT we should make a Channel for us fatman |
hartnixen
Planetary Response Organization
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:21:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:we got nerfed and made useless as a class. might aswell remove the heavy suit and turn this game in to a new COD
Totaly.. Askt them to reset my toon to start over as another class since thay killed the heavy class. After spending 6mill SP on HMG and its upgrading skills to max it out, i still think its more dangerus to trow stone at my enemy!
however this is the awnser i got:
Thank you for contacting the DUST 514 Customer Support Team. CCP will offer an optional reset whereby you can chose to reset any of your characters to basically zero Skillpoints, ISK and assets but your AURUM will be reimbursement. Please note that this doesn't mean that CCP will not delete the actual characters or rename them. You can find more information in the link provided below. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES
3
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:20:00 -
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I miss my heavies, they got the job done. Reds would run in terror, trying to escape the horror of a HMG with a medic by his side. Together we could take on a pack of reds no problem and now it's just sad. |
Taarec
Phoenix Reavers
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:34:00 -
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I, for one, feel sorry for the heavies.
Free the heavies! (From the shackles of nerfbat) |
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
39
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:36:00 -
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if they want HMG to be useless, so be it LET THIS BE THE GLORIOUS RETURN OF THE ASSAULT RIFLE HEAVY
also, look out for the Commando suit variant (like the sentinel) which will have two light weapons slots instead of a heavy and a sidearm. Scrambler rifle + hybrid anyone? burst down the shields then switch and finish'em'off |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
20
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:42:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:I would be happy with a small range increase and a bigger turning speed. And more ammo please!
Also our damage |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1448
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:42:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:if they want HMG to be useless, so be it LET THIS BE THE GLORIOUS RETURN OF THE ASSAULT RIFLE HEAVY
also, look out for the Commando suit variant (like the sentinel) which will have two light weapons slots instead of a heavy and a sidearm. Scrambler rifle + hybrid anyone? burst down the shields then switch and finish'em'off
lolno.
Heavies are even slower now. Big slow targets with no equipment slots. People really think HP matters? You pop up on the map where everywhere you go. When you walk into an area, ALL EYES on you. There was never a glorious assault heavy. Only a heavy holding a duvolle camping. If that's how you have fun, cool. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
206
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:47:00 -
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all heavy suits are of the old type-II shield variant.. EXCEPT they decreased shield recharge rate AND gave all suits the movement speed of the old type-I armor variant.
the got rid of the best part of 1 suit and replaced it with the worst part of the other, all the while removing the option for anything other than the 1 suit out there
and from OP post.. CPU/PG is unchanged from before, so the same issues from before with fitting stuff is still there...
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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
266
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
Join the 'Heavies' chat channel. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:05:00 -
[56] - Quote
Bump for more Competitive heavy feedback. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
266
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:52:00 -
[57] - Quote
SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle 14)Racial suits slot layout is undesirable 15) useless racial 16) Simply not competitive. 17) PG/CPU left unchanged from Chromosome
Use a light weapon on your heavy noob. hmg should not be > then an AR at mid to long range. though what it does sound like right now is useless. but know the hmg should be a superior weapon than an smg shotgun and close range. |
Mark The Red
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:00:00 -
[58] - Quote
What (I hope) may be the solution to the HMG deficiency.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75304&find=unread
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flesth
Red Star. EoN.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:15:00 -
[59] - Quote
I miss the B series and the old build hmg power, last build was spot on , all ccp have to do is remove SS like other weapons nothing more, now i am loss without B-series , i guess i used B-series too long :p |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
86
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:28:00 -
[60] - Quote
My problem with the Heavy (and a fundamental problem with all classes) is CCP using Hard Range as a way to define weapons. |
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Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack
22
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:29:00 -
[61] - Quote
yeh, the cpu needs an upper-fix. increase that ish, yo
mostly, u have it down, sota |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack
22
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:29:00 -
[62] - Quote
DS 10 wrote:Join the 'Heavies' chat channel.
lol
really? thats ossum |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
51
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:38:00 -
[63] - Quote
I got a 2 shot K on a HMG toting proto Heavy. I was in a starter Assault w/ Militia Shotty. Thanks, but that's just wrong. |
Blammmo
Better Hide R Die
26
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:45:00 -
[64] - Quote
More damage is the biggest thing needed IMO, could you imagine trying to run anything in your high slots other than complex damage mods? Forget about it, the HMG is dead. I'll be focusing on some light weapons to fill my heavy slot until CCP can get their **** straight |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1693
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:10:00 -
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hartnixen wrote:Heavy and HMG is soo ruind now, if your new i whould not tutch it whit a 10 foot pole.
Suits lost slots HMG do dmg up to 16.5 meters, and very little dmg i might ad. Totaly waisted 9 mill SP on heavy HMG build.
Starting on scratch if i come back to play as a assult coz thay are overpimped
Proto HMG 15,4 |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1693
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:13:00 -
[66] - Quote
The HMG is the problem, It's damage was needed and maybe a little more range |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1693
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:15:00 -
[67] - Quote
Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Big Popa Smurff wrote:I would be happy with a small range increase and a bigger turning speed. And more ammo please! Also our damage
and then the problem is done yay |
Mark The Red
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:45:00 -
[68] - Quote
What (I hope) may be the solution to the HMG deficiency.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75304&find=unread
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
637
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:53:00 -
[69] - Quote
at this point, aFKing looks more and more tempting, no loss of isk (as the suits are still too fuckin spensive as you die so often)
nearly same ammount of SP oh and i can do other more enjoyable things, like hanging out in the forums |
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