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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:40:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. Hahaha keep crying. Perhaps if ya cry loud enough just MAYBE we will give you buff and advantages over the good players to keep you relevant :) Let those good players know I'm thankful for there effort to keep me and my class relevant. But why are you speaking for good players? You really should let them speak for themselves ;) |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:52:00 -
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Still looking for more feedback! |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:11:00 -
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Well ****, that sucks. Looks like I fo reals am not rolling Heavy.
Haha, note that you will not get you SP back if they ever choose to release something GOOD for the heavy.
Logi master race here I come. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:14:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. Hahaha keep crying. Perhaps if ya cry loud enough just MAYBE we will give you buff and advantages over the good players to keep you relevant :) Let those good players know I'm thankful for there effort to keep me and my class relevant. But why are you speaking for good players? You really should let them speak for themselves ;)
He's the cheerleader, it's his job to go about doing what he's doing
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Nazz'Dragg
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2013.05.06 23:53:00 -
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Oh Oh, the amarr sentinel heavy dropsuit is completely useless when the the basic drop suit has a better slot layout. And lets don't even get started on the bloody useless racial skills. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:16:00 -
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It looks like the Heavy won't even be viable for CBs with how they are right now, heck they're barely decent in pubs. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 00:50:00 -
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Thread updated - if you have anymore feedback post it here. Number gripes on heavy weapons or suits as well. |
Talbain Sigmund
Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:09:00 -
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So yeah. I'm pretty garbage at FPS games. But up till yesterday I liked trudging around in my fattysuit and pointing a HMG at someone and hoping for the best. Investments in the effective range skill really paid off with an HMG for me. Today however I immediately went about how to figure out skilling up for the equipment I ran on my previous fattysuits. Which boiled down to 3 on all the equipment skills for shield, armor, gun, and dropsuit. And 5s on armor HP, shield HP and weaponry. That's about when I noticed that I couldn't have my sever logistics set up on the side even though I ran it with all militia gear BPOs for a free funsuit.
So what if I'm down to 1 suit set up and Most of my skills are gone. As long as my fattysuit is fun I'll manage. So I took my fattysuit and cotton candy gun out to play and the fun is not happening. Everything sounds and looks sexier but I'm literally having no fun. So it looks like I'm shelving DUST for the foreseeable future till changes come down the line. Maybe I'll have enough passive SP to run more than 1 setup by that point. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:35:00 -
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Bump for more feedback. |
Sleepy Zan
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:44:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. I believe camping and defending curtain areas as well as AV are the main duties of a heavy anyway. |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:51:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. I believe camping and defending curtain areas as well as AV are the main duties of a heavy anyway. That's be fine if it was our main duties. But now there's no choice at all. To go outside of CCP's wishes of every heavy standing still and camping would mean certain death.
Love watching logi's go 24/2 though. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
441
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:57:00 -
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my biggest complaint about the Heavy is that we only have Ammar to choose...
I really wish that at a respec, all were given the chance to choose where they wanted to go, it seems only Assault and logi type players were given the tools to go where they wanted.
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Grimmnyr Odynson
WarRavens Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:15:00 -
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Just to parrot what's being said, with the removal of SS, the nerf to range and damage as well as the spread being so large you can't actually hit anything, HMG are useless except on the tightest maps. Otherwise, a Heavy with an AR can do your job better, from a farther distance, with better accuracy. |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
168
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:31:00 -
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I would be happy with a small range increase and a bigger turning speed. And more ammo please! |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:31:00 -
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Just looking at the suit's races, I can see CCP didn't put much effort into them. Did they tested it or just check THE numbers?
I am glad summer's here already.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:35:00 -
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martinofski wrote:Just looking at the suit's races, I can see CCP didn't put much effort into them. Did they tested it or just check THE numbers?
I am glad summer's here already.
CCP never tests anything - can't you tell by the Uprising build? |
Jastad
Eliters
5
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:41:00 -
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Dear fellow Heavy i don't think it's just "that" bad, al least for me. even in Cromo i didnt have SS e SSpro so, for my gamestyle, no bigger difference from Cromo to UPRS, except one. Now when an ARBoy shoot me i can shot him back !!! no more extra range. But now i'm dying a lot lot lot less versus PROTOBEARS e BIGNAME player, and starting to kill people that were immortal (for me ) in CROMO Just my opinion for now
OT we should make a Channel for us fatman |
hartnixen
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:21:00 -
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Chaos Carl wrote:we got nerfed and made useless as a class. might aswell remove the heavy suit and turn this game in to a new COD
Totaly.. Askt them to reset my toon to start over as another class since thay killed the heavy class. After spending 6mill SP on HMG and its upgrading skills to max it out, i still think its more dangerus to trow stone at my enemy!
however this is the awnser i got:
Thank you for contacting the DUST 514 Customer Support Team. CCP will offer an optional reset whereby you can chose to reset any of your characters to basically zero Skillpoints, ISK and assets but your AURUM will be reimbursement. Please note that this doesn't mean that CCP will not delete the actual characters or rename them. You can find more information in the link provided below. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES
3
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:20:00 -
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I miss my heavies, they got the job done. Reds would run in terror, trying to escape the horror of a HMG with a medic by his side. Together we could take on a pack of reds no problem and now it's just sad. |
Taarec
Phoenix Reavers
1
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:34:00 -
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I, for one, feel sorry for the heavies.
Free the heavies! (From the shackles of nerfbat) |
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Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:36:00 -
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if they want HMG to be useless, so be it LET THIS BE THE GLORIOUS RETURN OF THE ASSAULT RIFLE HEAVY
also, look out for the Commando suit variant (like the sentinel) which will have two light weapons slots instead of a heavy and a sidearm. Scrambler rifle + hybrid anyone? burst down the shields then switch and finish'em'off |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
20
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:42:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:I would be happy with a small range increase and a bigger turning speed. And more ammo please!
Also our damage |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:42:00 -
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Bubba Brown wrote:if they want HMG to be useless, so be it LET THIS BE THE GLORIOUS RETURN OF THE ASSAULT RIFLE HEAVY
also, look out for the Commando suit variant (like the sentinel) which will have two light weapons slots instead of a heavy and a sidearm. Scrambler rifle + hybrid anyone? burst down the shields then switch and finish'em'off
lolno.
Heavies are even slower now. Big slow targets with no equipment slots. People really think HP matters? You pop up on the map where everywhere you go. When you walk into an area, ALL EYES on you. There was never a glorious assault heavy. Only a heavy holding a duvolle camping. If that's how you have fun, cool. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
206
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:47:00 -
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all heavy suits are of the old type-II shield variant.. EXCEPT they decreased shield recharge rate AND gave all suits the movement speed of the old type-I armor variant.
the got rid of the best part of 1 suit and replaced it with the worst part of the other, all the while removing the option for anything other than the 1 suit out there
and from OP post.. CPU/PG is unchanged from before, so the same issues from before with fitting stuff is still there...
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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
266
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:48:00 -
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Join the 'Heavies' chat channel. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:05:00 -
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Bump for more Competitive heavy feedback. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:52:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.
For COMPETITIVE heavies only.
My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety.
Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle 14)Racial suits slot layout is undesirable 15) useless racial 16) Simply not competitive. 17) PG/CPU left unchanged from Chromosome
Use a light weapon on your heavy noob. hmg should not be > then an AR at mid to long range. though what it does sound like right now is useless. but know the hmg should be a superior weapon than an smg shotgun and close range. |
Mark The Red
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:00:00 -
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What (I hope) may be the solution to the HMG deficiency.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75304&find=unread
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flesth
Red Star. EoN.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:15:00 -
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I miss the B series and the old build hmg power, last build was spot on , all ccp have to do is remove SS like other weapons nothing more, now i am loss without B-series , i guess i used B-series too long :p |
Dis Cord
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:28:00 -
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My problem with the Heavy (and a fundamental problem with all classes) is CCP using Hard Range as a way to define weapons. |
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