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SoTa PoP wrote:

XeroTheBigBoss wrote:

SoTa PoP wrote:

For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on.

For COMPETITIVE heavies only.

My complaints:
1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun.
2)Armor tanking isn't viable.
3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection.
4)Slots on suits are horrid.
5)Lack of variety.

Community additions:
6)Spread is too harsh.
7)CPU is too low on higher tiers.
8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach.
9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay
10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it.
11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD.
12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit.
13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle

Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain!

XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. Roll

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SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2199	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:23:00 - [1] - Quote For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on. For COMPETITIVE heavies only. My complaints: We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. Armor tanking isn't viable. our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. Slots on suits are horrid. Lack of variety.
Thor Thunder Fist Better Hide R Die 98	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:25:00 - [2] - Quote I got HMG rapid reload prof and I like my heavy suit :D taking a while to kill people but I like it still :D
Chaos Carl ZionTCD Unclaimed. 2	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:25:00 - [3] - Quote we got nerfed and made useless as a class. might aswell remove the heavy suit and turn this game in to a new COD
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 150	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:29:00 - [4] - Quote It's pretty pathetic what they've done to the heavy this build. I can't imagine what was going through CCP's head when they decided that nerfing the damage on proto to below standard was a good idea. It also seems they haven't done anything about our horrible bullet spread. The description of the heavy is the exact opposite of what they've done to it. How fair is it that I'm now restricted to sitting on an objective worrying because some shotgun scout might get into my optimal range. I shouldn't have to worry about anyone being in my optimal range, I should just be able to pull the trigger and be done with it. The fact that I even have to worry AT ALL about someone being in my optimal range is... well, a joke. Oh no, that person got to close to me, too bad I can't run away.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1417	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:30:00 - [5] - Quote This is my honest review on the weapon and class. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73100&find=unread Let me know if I hit the nail on the head, or did I miss something.
Waruiko DUST G I A N T EoN. 95	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:31:00 - [6] - Quote As a logi I resent the idea that armor tanking is useless to heavies... But yes currently its prohibitive to get into a suit that can make use of armor for heavies now that they are all 50/50 armor shields. You need to get into the proto sentinel before you can get your HP high enough for a major impact, and then you'll be stuck to the ground from using so many plates. On the upside if you drop 4 complex reps in those lows after skills you have 25 HP/sec local rep. I've also been told that the burst HMG had its damage cut by half.
Nazz'Dragg FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 10	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:36:00 - [7] - Quote I'm still experimenting but HMG really seem a bit **** now. Forge guns on the other hand are the same as ever. Perhaps they are where it's at now.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2202	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote Need more feedback! This list will be going straight to CCP and I will be giving out copies so others can spam it at them till they get how the effed up.
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 342	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:37:00 - [9] - Quote Pretty much everything about heavies has been said already. HMGs = useless; nerf'd into nothingness Armor tanking = still not a viable option One good thing I guess is that the prices for everything were balanced out The only point to the heavy's existence is the forge gun.....
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2202	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:42:00 - [10] - Quote Looking for more feedback

Caineghis Beoulve Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:43:00 - [11] - Quote HMG should have range or damage not both, if we have range we should deal les damage, if the range is poor we should compensate that by having a high damage weapong that could destroy in those 10 to 15 mts.
Boomer Dues Mortis D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION 78	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:48:00 - [12] - Quote The weapon is garbage because of the range nerf and the damage nerf ( around 12-14% dmg nerf) The hmg still misses too many shots and I am good at aiming putting any type of armor plate on the suit makes us move at the pace of a slug heavy suits need a cpu buff aiming with the hmg feels off now
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1419	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:50:00 - [13] - Quote SoTa I'll give you my opinion. The nerf with range and damage is compounded by the bullet spread. You can't tell what the problem is cuz CCP went and nerf 2 things at once while leaving bullet spread as it was. At least so it seems. I can't tell if the spread is buffed... if it was then loooool. They NEED to buff either range, or the bullet spread. You can't see the range cuz your bullets are all over the place past 10m.
Severance Pay Planetary Response Organization 165	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:50:00 - [14] - Quote Nerfed hmg.. Thx 3 new light weapons,1 new side arm 0 new heavy weapons... Thx No large capacity grenade... Thx 6 new suits, none of which are heavy... Gee guys thx. Forced to armor tank? Awesome. As things were anyone with an AR and a lazer could gun us down without going to half armor, now we won't eve be able to shoot back or run. Basically heavies are easy targets. What did we do to you guys to deserve this? Do you hate us? Seriously, why are you guys doing this? Please tell us. I would better about this if you told me that you hate us and want us to play something else. Atleast I could have closure. CCMON CCP!!! HOW MANY THREADS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE?? PLEASE ANSWER US!! WE KNOW YOU HAVE READ ALL OF THESE!! SERIOUSLY GUYS WTF!
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2406	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:52:00 - [15] - Quote The range is sad but manageable if it wasn't for the damage nerf. But the big one people are starting to clue in on is the straife speed at close quarters is pathetic, every other suit including the logie can out straife us at close quarters. The spread makes getting hits at 25+ meters very inconsistent. Overall it just isn't any fun to play anymore.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2204	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:59:00 - [16] - Quote List is updated. If there's more feedback I'd love to hear it.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1421	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:03:00 - [17] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: Nerfed hmg.. Thx 3 new light weapons,1 new side arm 0 new heavy weapons... Thx No large capacity grenade... Thx 6 new suits, none of which are heavy... Gee guys thx. Forced to armor tank? Awesome. As things were anyone with an AR and a lazer could gun us down without going to half armor, now we won't eve be able to shoot back or run. Basically heavies are easy targets. What did we do to you guys to deserve this? Do you hate us? Seriously, why are you guys doing this? Please tell us. I would better about this if you told me that you hate us and want us to play something else. Atleast I could have closure. CCMON CCP!!! HOW MANY THREADS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE?? PLEASE ANSWER US!! WE KNOW YOU HAVE READ ALL OF THESE!! SERIOUSLY GUYS WTF! So passionate +1
Severance Pay Planetary Response Organization 167	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:04:00 - [18] - Quote I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1426	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:08:00 - [19] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2204	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:09:00 - [20] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Severance Pay wrote: I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG You're using proto HMG? Why? STD is almost better lol

Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1426	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:11:00 - [21] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Severance Pay wrote: I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG You're using proto HMG? Why? STD is almost better lol Nah i didn't buy Proto HMG's... I was using Adv today. Using Proto and dying 2-3 times = no profit.
DS 10 G I A N T EoN. 253	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:14:00 - [22] - Quote Nerfing range AND damage is the issue. If they would have done one or the other, we'd be okay. Not only do our shots not hit because of spread, but the enemy has to be two feet any and even then it's tough to bring them down. Maps play to AR styles with a cover-empty-cover format. Heavies can't get close without going in the open and can't hit from range because of the nerf. The suits are only good for being stationary. I feel like I'm in a blaster turret Boundless HMGs = pre-Uprising HMGs without Sharpshooter and damage mods No new suits. Armor tank only. The biggest issue is the HMGs total lack of effectiveness. I can deal with a sub-par suit. I can't deal with a sub-par suit and weapon that makes a Militia AR look like a Duvolle. That being said, I'm only using ARs on my heavy suit until they buff the HMG. Using an HMG is absolutely worthless right now.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2204	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:14:00 - [23] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Severance Pay wrote: I wanna know where our friggin embassadors are. Kain, jenza? Throw us a bone guys. They're probably shocked. I know I was when i saw the HMG dmg today. I had to check a few times to make sure I was on Proto HMG You're using proto HMG? Why? STD is almost better lol Nah i didn't buy Proto HMG's... I was using Adv today. Using Proto and dying 2-3 times = no profit. I'll probably be doing the same next week. I'm done for this week though - I still destroy pubs, but it's turned into a boss fight trying to be where I was a day ago. And by boss fight - I mean there's a set amount of decisions I can make that will put me in a good situation to deal dmg and if I don't follow said pattern I get destroyed.
DJINN Marauder Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 531	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:17:00 - [24] - Quote Reserved for when I finish dl and try on alt.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2207	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:27:00 - [25] - Quote Bump for more feedback I can use to fight CCP with.
hartnixen Planetary Response Organization 1	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:31:00 - [26] - Quote Heavy and HMG is soo ruind now, if your new i whould not tutch it whit a 10 foot pole. Suits lost slots HMG do dmg up to 16.5 meters, and very little dmg i might ad. Totaly waisted 9 mill SP on heavy HMG build. Starting on scratch if i come back to play as a assult coz thay are overpimped
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 215	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:32:00 - [27] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on. For COMPETITIVE heavies only. My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety. Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain!
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2207	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:33:00 - [28] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on. For COMPETITIVE heavies only. My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety. Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks.
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 215	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:36:00 - [29] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: For those of the heavy class I need your feedback on this build so far. I'll be compiling said feedback into a list for CCP to choke on. For COMPETITIVE heavies only. My complaints: 1) We're over-sized campers with no other purpose if we're not holding a forge gun. 2)Armor tanking isn't viable. 3)our HMG took way too hard a hit to be comparable to AR's dancing a long with terrible hit detection. 4)Slots on suits are horrid. 5)Lack of variety. Community additions: 6)Spread is too harsh. 7)CPU is too low on higher tiers. 8)Lack of survivability due to constraints of movement and weapon reach. 9)Armor Plating is a negative more then positive to gameplay 10)Death Mode seems changed though no patch notes explains it. 11)Proto HMG do less damage then STD. 12)No gear of any sort was implemented for the heavy benefit. 13)Strafing contests against other suits is a losing battle Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! XeroTheCheerleader - I said competitive heavies only. This is not a thread for bench warmers. Thanks. Hahaha keep crying. Perhaps if ya cry loud enough just MAYBE we will give you buff and advantages over the good players to keep you relevant :)
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 142	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:36:00 - [30] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: Lol! Get out your umbrellas guys he is crying his ass off! Make it rain! ............ no .....just .....not going to even bother.



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