Everyone I know who plays CoD has not asked for nerfs to vehicles and nerfs to heavies. Most of them do not even go on forums. They believe that forums are a place for n00bs and forum warriors.

And who is dumb enough to believe that Activision goes on forums, asks for player feedback, and then changes the game based on the feedback from the players? That just does not happen.

Story Time:

I was playing a game (solo) and I decided to use my mic in team chat. I came into the game late, and there was an enemy HAV on the field tearing all of the MLT guys up. There was a squad of new guys who had just come from CoD. Here is the conversation that took place over the mic.

CoD Guy 1: "Enemy armor! Enemy armor!"
CoD Guy 2: "It's advancing on objective Alpha. Get RPGs to objective Alpha!"
CoD Guy 1: "Fire your rifles at it! Throw grenades! Do anything you can to bring that tank DOWN!"
More Experienced Player: "You guys know that does almost no damage to the tank, right?"
CoD Guy 1: "It doesn't matter! Any damage helps! GET THAT TANK DOWN!"

at this point I call in my anti-tank HAV.

CoD Guy 3: "Friendly armor!"
CoD Guy 4: "He took down the enemy armor, we can push up and retake objective Alpha!"

and the rest of the game was like that.

We NEED more players like this. One of those guys decided to skill into forge guns so he could take out HAVs too. He did not whine, *****, more, or cry on forums about how much HAVs are OP. Instead, he did the smart thing, which was to skill into something that could take down HAVs.

CoD guys are the ones who shoot at HAVs with their assault rifle. Sure, we HAV drivers laugh at them because we think they are stupid and do no damage, but the truth is that the guy who is shooting at your HAV with your AR does not care. He has one thing in mind, and that is to kill your HAV by any means necessary, and he is also lighting it up for his team. They are most certainly not the guys who go on forums to QQ. They are familiar with companies like Activision and EA. I'm still skeptical that CCP actually makes many decisions based off of lots of player feedback on forums. It just does not happen.

CoD players are not the problem. They play the game. It's the guys who post on forums who need to GTFO. EVE has a bunch of crazy acronyms. The only acronym you need to know is one which was created by FPS gamers.

INTFH.

It's
Not
That
*******
Hard

I saw it when a n00b was QQing about always dying to rockets in Unreal Tournament, back in the early 2000's, long before things like YouTube were created. He kept dying, and someone simply responded with: Learn 2 dodge noob, INTFH.

All the forum warriors, aka n00bs and most vets need to learn how to play the game and stay there. INTFH

Everyone I know who plays CoD has not asked for nerfs to vehicles and nerfs to heavies. Most of them do not even go on forums. They believe that forums are a place for n00bs and forum warriors.

And who is dumb enough to believe that Activision goes on forums, asks for player feedback, and then changes the game based on the feedback from the players? That just does not happen.

Story Time:

I was playing a game (solo) and I decided to use my mic in team chat. I came into the game late, and there was an enemy HAV on the field tearing all of the MLT guys up. There was a squad of new guys who had just come from CoD. Here is the conversation that took place over the mic.

CoD Guy 1: "Enemy armor! Enemy armor!"
CoD Guy 2: "It's advancing on objective Alpha. Get RPGs to objective Alpha!"
CoD Guy 1: "Fire your rifles at it! Throw grenades! Do anything you can to bring that tank DOWN!"
More Experienced Player: "You guys know that does almost no damage to the tank, right?"
CoD Guy 1: "It doesn't matter! Any damage helps! GET THAT TANK DOWN!"

at this point I call in my anti-tank HAV.

CoD Guy 3: "Friendly armor!"
CoD Guy 4: "He took down the enemy armor, we can push up and retake objective Alpha!"

and the rest of the game was like that.

We NEED more players like this. One of those guys decided to skill into forge guns so he could take out HAVs too. He did not whine, *****, more, or cry on forums about how much HAVs are OP. Instead, he did the smart thing, which was to skill into something that could take down HAVs.

CoD guys are the ones who shoot at HAVs with their assault rifle. Sure, we HAV drivers laugh at them because we think they are stupid and do no damage, but the truth is that the guy who is shooting at your HAV with your AR does not care. He has one thing in mind, and that is to kill your HAV by any means necessary, and he is also lighting it up for his team. They are most certainly not the guys who go on forums to QQ. They are familiar with companies like Activision and EA. I'm still skeptical that CCP actually makes many decisions based off of lots of player feedback on forums. It just does not happen.

CoD players are not the problem. They play the game. It's the guys who post on forums who need to GTFO. EVE has a bunch of crazy acronyms. The only acronym you need to know is one which was created by FPS gamers.

INTFH.

It's
Not
That
*******
Hard

I saw it when a n00b was QQing about always dying to rockets in Unreal Tournament, back in the early 2000's, long before things like YouTube were created. He kept dying, and someone simply responded with: Learn 2 dodge noob, INTFH.

All the forum warriors, aka n00bs and most vets need to learn how to play the game and stay there. INTFH

As far as the mindset of not coming on the forums, I'm not sure if we need to go that far, but a little more civility is always to be appreciated.

Why you post words that trip the bad filter?

Everyone I know who plays CoD has not asked for nerfs to vehicles and nerfs to heavies. Most of them do not even go on forums. They believe that forums are a place for n00bs and forum warriors.

And who is dumb enough to believe that Activision goes on forums, asks for player feedback, and then changes the game based on the feedback from the players? That just does not happen.

Story Time:

I was playing a game (solo) and I decided to use my mic in team chat. I came into the game late, and there was an enemy HAV on the field tearing all of the MLT guys up. There was a squad of new guys who had just come from CoD. Here is the conversation that took place over the mic.

CoD Guy 1: "Enemy armor! Enemy armor!"
CoD Guy 2: "It's advancing on objective Alpha. Get RPGs to objective Alpha!"
CoD Guy 1: "Fire your rifles at it! Throw grenades! Do anything you can to bring that tank DOWN!"
More Experienced Player: "You guys know that does almost no damage to the tank, right?"
CoD Guy 1: "It doesn't matter! Any damage helps! GET THAT TANK DOWN!"

at this point I call in my anti-tank HAV.

CoD Guy 3: "Friendly armor!"
CoD Guy 4: "He took down the enemy armor, we can push up and retake objective Alpha!"

and the rest of the game was like that.

We NEED more players like this. One of those guys decided to skill into forge guns so he could take out HAVs too. He did not whine, *****, more, or cry on forums about how much HAVs are OP. Instead, he did the smart thing, which was to skill into something that could take down HAVs.

CoD guys are the ones who shoot at HAVs with their assault rifle. Sure, we HAV drivers laugh at them because we think they are stupid and do no damage, but the truth is that the guy who is shooting at your HAV with your AR does not care. He has one thing in mind, and that is to kill your HAV by any means necessary, and he is also lighting it up for his team. They are most certainly not the guys who go on forums to QQ. They are familiar with companies like Activision and EA. I'm still skeptical that CCP actually makes many decisions based off of lots of player feedback on forums. It just does not happen.

CoD players are not the problem. They play the game. It's the guys who post on forums who need to GTFO. EVE has a bunch of crazy acronyms. The only acronym you need to know is one which was created by FPS gamers.

INTFH.

It's
Not
That
*******
Hard

I saw it when a n00b was QQing about always dying to rockets in Unreal Tournament, back in the early 2000's, long before things like YouTube were created. He kept dying, and someone simply responded with: Learn 2 dodge noob, INTFH.

All the forum warriors, aka n00bs and most vets need to learn how to play the game and stay there. INTFH

MMO players like to discuss, theorize, attack, then whine on a forum when it doesn't go their way. Either way, we are gonna see an awesome amalgamation of the two once this game hits maturity.

As a COD player, I can tell you that the biggest mindset difference is that we COD duty players try to be good at EVERYTHING. It sounds bad, though, if this vigor is applied in a productive manner it is a very deadly attribute.

For example, it is the reason we do Quickscoping, we want our sniper rifles to be just as good up close as at range. It is a deadly combo if done right.

Unlike other players, we do not like to change our class for the occasion, instead we do the best we can with what we selected. If I decided to go Shotgun, even though the entire other team is sniping, I am NOT switching. I will just flank and rush them. It is not always the best decision but it is a good attribute to have.

Just today, me and abouy 8-11 other guys found an enemy HAV. We had no AV.

So we just threw locus grenades, shot AR's at it, used one HMG and I used a breach shotgun & breach SMG. We took it down in two minutes.

Don't rule us COD players out just yet!

Unlike other players, we do not like to change our class for the occasion, instead we do the best we can with what we selected. If I decided to go Shotgun, even though the entire other team is sniping, I am NOT switching.

Doesn't matter what game you're playing.
One word.

Tactics.

Llan Heindell.

You can have all the tactics you want but how fast you implement them is more important. This is something you learn the the hard way in a highly reflex game like COD.

What is more important is adaptability. You can have all the tactics you want but how fast you implement them is more important. This is something you learn the the hard way in a highly reflex game like COD.

CoD is not an example of anything other then a terrible game. (It's my opinion, therefore, it won't change)
What I mean is. People must learn tactics before they can try to be anything in this game.

What are good reflexes for, if when you go to a Friendly fire enabled match, you get in the line of fire of your team mates, just to score a kill you know you can. But you don't think about the fact that your team mate also could get that kill.

Reflexes are developed by practicing. Dust 514 requires as much or even more reflexes, allowing people to get better reflexes.

Also, nobody said FPS players don't use tactics. I am both, a MMO and FPS player.
And the major problem in pub matches is obviously the lack of tactics. People scattered around trying to do their own stuff but not cooperating for the sake of the team.

Llan Heindell.

Yay, I love story time! Thank you 0! Awesome bed time story on the eve of Uprising! =D

The biggest issue here is that you feel the need to compare the two.

There are dumb, horrible players that don't use tactics, team work, etc. and expect to get better somehow.

Then you have players that adapt, learn, settle into roles, learn multiple roles, etc. and they will dominate.

This isn't about the game. Every game has crap players, average players, and players that are above average.


For some reason everyone feels the need to stereotype.....

As a COD player, I can tell you that the biggest mindset difference is that we COD duty players try to be good at EVERYTHING. It sounds bad, though, if this vigor is applied in a productive manner it is a very deadly attribute.

For example, it is the reason we do Quickscoping, we want our sniper rifles to be just as good up close as at range. It is a deadly combo if done right.

Unlike other players, we do not like to change our class for the occasion, instead we do the best we can with what we selected. If I decided to go Shotgun, even though the entire other team is sniping, I am NOT switching. I will just flank and rush them. It is not always the best decision but it is a good attribute to have.

Just today, me and abouy 8-11 other guys found an enemy HAV. We had no AV.

So we just threw locus grenades, shot AR's at it, used one HMG and I used a breach shotgun & breach SMG. We took it down in two minutes.

Don't rule us COD players out just yet!

...On a slightly related note, I do not understand why so many people want the "commander" role put in so that "the game can have a RTS element" or something similar. There's already an overhead map in the game, and you should be using it, or communicating with someone else who is looking at it on your team!