Thanks to the new skill tree being out early I hope some of you have taken the time to at least gone though the new travel plans.

All I am going to say as a good word of caution to all of you is...

Slow Down.

The temptation to spend those hundreds of millions of isk, aur and SP may make you splurge but you may wind up in a specialization that isn't what you thought it to be. Uprising is an entirely new monster and you owe it to yourself to enjoy the journey of progression a bit. Relearn the game, the skills, the bonuses, what can and cannot be done.

I know that some of you have 8-12 million skill points but seriously carefully consider the skills on the tree and go slow with it. When it comes to dropsuits and vehicles go even slower, try each teir out before going up the next level. You may find a useful base suit instead of the tech 2 specialist suits.

Get militia of everything, try it before you buy it. See how others use the newer toys, but take it slow and careful and don't overspend yourself into regret.

So other than that, Happy 10th Birthday New Eden, Happy Uprising day everyone else.

I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can.


Iron Wolf,

Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition?

I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can.


Iron Wolf,

Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition?

I did the maths: It'll take 10,260,360 SP to max out all core skills (skills that affect all dropsuits).

Max Core Bonuses:

50% bonus to dropsuit scan range.-scouts need

30% bonus to dropsuit max PG and CPU.

25% bonus to dropsuit maximum armor and shield.

25% bonus to dropsuit hacking speed.-scouts need

10% bonus to dropsuit scan profile and precision. -scouts need

5% bonus to dropsuit sprint speed, max stamina and stamina recovery.-scouts need

I'd strongly consider not taking the 5th level; it's a luxury in most cases.

This is just for Dropsuit Upgrades btw.

Can someone tell me exactly how much SP I need for Prototype Amarr Medium (Tier 1) and Prototype Scrambler Rifle/Pistol?

Also Complex Shields and Armor Repairs to be helpful. :)

In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game?

But I don't want people to spend their skill points wisely so I will have an advantage despite having less than 5 million.

To go full proto in logi 11 mil won't get you close.

so whats that minus what scouts need

Dont think he would be pushing ppl to be cautious if this time was not permanent.

My spreadsheet is mocking me. 11 mil to dedicate to logistics and I still feel like a noob. Maybe 15 mil will cover it but I want to see what the many of those skills actually do first.

In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game?

To be honest I have no idea, I always been an omni-soldier and always specced into everything, if anything this new build is going to hurt me the most.

If anything dropsuit core upgrades, dropsuit electronics and dropsuit engeineering, dropsuit armor upgrades, and dorpsuit shield upgrades are the first skills I am maxxing out in the new build (and not the sub skills)

Can you tell me what do you mean with "sub skills"?

Skills such as Cardiac Regulation or Armor Plating are what IWS is referring to as sub skills; they are skills that affect modules rather than dropsuits.

Sounds like you took the last build off.

I understand. So your advice is spend the sp in "passive skills" that affects all the dropsuits.

lets see

To get Amarr medium you need drop suit lvl 3 and Amarr Medium 1

To get a scrambler rifle you need weaponry 3, Light Weapons 1, Sidearms 1, and Scrambler Rifle 1 and Scrambler Pistol 1.

Minimal spec costs are.

DC3 68400
AM1 37320
WE3 68400
WO1 12440
SR1 12440
SP1 12440

Or 211,440 Minimal To access to get the proto weapons its
1.430240

and with Protosuit its

3,258,440

No core skills.

lets see

To get Amarr medium you need drop suit lvl 3 and Amarr Medium 1

To get a scrambler rifle you need weaponry 3, Light Weapons 1, Sidearms 1, and Scrambler Rifle 1 and Scrambler Pistol 1.

Minimal spec costs are.

DC3 68400
AM1 37320
WE3 68400
WO1 12440
SR1 12440
SP1 12440

Or 211,440 Minimal To access to get the proto weapons its
1.430240

and with Protosuit its

3,258,440

No core skills.

Not that high actually.
I hope our fellow mercs can open their eyes and see that the SP value changes are not that high.

Llan Heindell.

Dont think he would be pushing ppl to be cautious if this time was not permanent.

Yes, but the real SP cost is in the modules. I don't even care about the suit much, I've been destroying proto people in an a series scout, but all my moduls are complex.

I feel I'm missing a key piece of information we won't get until tomorrow and that is how progression goes. By that I mean, Does Amarr medium 1 unlock Amarr logi and Assault 1. I sure as heck hope so or I'm not playing logi for about a week probably.

Anyway, good advice IWS

I'd add this goes especially true for weapons since we don't get the new toys for another 8 days even.

Do we know when downtime should end tomorrow (preferably in EST so I can be a lazy SOB and not convert)?

Which is hilarious since heavies got nothing new for Uprising and are screwed if we spend SP on Amarr again. Yea, I'll be spending SP real slow.