DUST Search - May 6th Travel Caution Advisory.

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Thanks to the new skill tree being out early I hope some of you have taken the time to at least gone though the new travel plans.

All I am going to say as a good word of caution to all of you is...

Slow Down.

The temptation to spend those hundreds of millions of isk, aur and SP may make you splurge but you may wind up in a specialization that isn't what you thought it to be. Uprising is an entirely new monster and you owe it to yourself to enjoy the journey of progression a bit. Relearn the game, the skills, the bonuses, what can and cannot be done.

I know that some of you have 8-12 million skill points but seriously carefully consider the skills on the tree and go slow with it. When it comes to dropsuits and vehicles go even slower, try each teir out before going up the next level. You may find a useful base suit instead of the tech 2 specialist suits.

Get militia of everything, try it before you buy it. See how others use the newer toys, but take it slow and careful and don't overspend yourself into regret.

So other than that, Happy 10th Birthday New Eden, Happy Uprising day everyone else.

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Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3868	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:08:00 - [1] - Quote Thanks to the new skill tree being out early I hope some of you have taken the time to at least gone though the new travel plans. All I am going to say as a good word of caution to all of you is... Slow Down. The temptation to spend those hundreds of millions of isk, aur and SP may make you splurge but you may wind up in a specialization that isn't what you thought it to be. Uprising is an entirely new monster and you owe it to yourself to enjoy the journey of progression a bit. Relearn the game, the skills, the bonuses, what can and cannot be done. I know that some of you have 8-12 million skill points but seriously carefully consider the skills on the tree and go slow with it. When it comes to dropsuits and vehicles go even slower, try each teir out before going up the next level. You may find a useful base suit instead of the tech 2 specialist suits. Get militia of everything, try it before you buy it. See how others use the newer toys, but take it slow and careful and don't overspend yourself into regret. So other than that, Happy 10th Birthday New Eden, Happy Uprising day everyone else.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 185	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:13:00 - [2] - Quote I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can. Iron Wolf, Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition?
BL4CK FRIAR Defiant Kelkoons 48	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:16:00 - [3] - Quote Spend all your reimbursed AUR on militia BPO's of suits and equipment and leave the SP alone for about 2 weeks is the plan I have in mind.
Green Living Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 178	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:20:00 - [4] - Quote Solid advice. I plan on taking it easy for the first few weeks myself before I spend my 10.5 mil SP.
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 134	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:20:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thanks to the new skill tree being out early I hope some of you have taken the time to at least gone though the new travel plans. All I am going to say as a good word of caution to all of you is... Slow Down. The temptation to spend those hundreds of millions of isk, aur and SP may make you splurge but you may wind up in a specialization that isn't what you thought it to be. Uprising is an entirely new monster and you owe it to yourself to enjoy the journey of progression a bit. Relearn the game, the skills, the bonuses, what can and cannot be done. I know that some of you have 8-12 million skill points but seriously carefully consider the skills on the tree and go slow with it. When it comes to dropsuits and vehicles go even slower, try each teir out before going up the next level. You may find a useful base suit instead of the tech 2 specialist suits. Get militia of everything, try it before you buy it. See how others use the newer toys, but take it slow and careful and don't overspend yourself into regret. So other than that, Happy 10th Birthday New Eden, Happy Uprising day everyone else. Yep, I plan on proceeding slowly, attempting fits and building slowly. It would suck to go L5 in your suit frame and weapon only to find you can't fit anything on to it. Or have a ton of CPU/PG, but no SP to work on your rifle survivability. It's going to require specialization. After looking at it I worry about how OP vehicles are going to be in the beginning. You can't skill into multiple roles right now. Advanced AV nades and militia swarms will be a ground pounders only defense. I prepared a spreadsheet to try and follow tomorrow and I'm shocked at how bad my dude is going to suck in comparison to now even though I can fill multiple roles.
Icy Xenosmilus Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:21:00 - [6] - Quote Can someone tell me exactly how much SP I need for Prototype Amarr Medium (Tier 1) and Prototype Scrambler Rifle/Pistol? Also Complex Shields and Armor Repairs to be helpful. :)
Thor Odinson42 Planetary Response Organization 134	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:22:00 - [7] - Quote mollerz wrote: I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can. Iron Wolf, Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition? To go full proto in logi 11 mil won't get you close.
BL4CK FRIAR Defiant Kelkoons 48	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:30:00 - [8] - Quote mollerz wrote: I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can. Iron Wolf, Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition? Keep in mind though that "core" skills for one race, weapon or piece of equipment may not be "core" skills in a greater sense. Example would be nanocircitry which while nice for Nano Hives served almost no other function. Im not sure about new skills and what have you, im not anywhere near my PS3 for another week (traveling for work) but im sure you catch my meaning here.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:31:00 - [9] - Quote I did the maths: It'll take 10,260,360 SP to max out all core skills (skills that affect all dropsuits). Max Core Bonuses: 50% bonus to dropsuit scan range. 30% bonus to dropsuit max PG and CPU. 25% bonus to dropsuit maximum armor and shield. 25% bonus to dropsuit hacking speed. 10% bonus to dropsuit scan profile and precision. 5% bonus to dropsuit sprint speed, max stamina and stamina recovery. I'd strongly consider not taking the 5th level; it's a luxury in most cases. This is just for Dropsuit Upgrades btw.
steadyhand amarr The Red Apple 460	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:32:00 - [10] - Quote iv made an alt with this in mind not going to touch my main till the 14th or something so i know what works and what does not :P

Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC The Omega Industries 38	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:05:00 - [11] - Quote Hi there really good advice, thats is how I kind of thought about how would I go on it in progression of my spec. Even if I know what suits me the most and what I wanna go for I still give it a time and see how those things are going with my playstyle that I ve kinda developed over the time.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 308	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:08:00 - [12] - Quote J-Lewis wrote: I did the maths: It'll take 10,260,360 SP to max out all core skills (skills that affect all dropsuits). Max Core Bonuses: 50% bonus to dropsuit scan range.-scouts need 30% bonus to dropsuit max PG and CPU. 25% bonus to dropsuit maximum armor and shield. 25% bonus to dropsuit hacking speed.-scouts need 10% bonus to dropsuit scan profile and precision. -scouts need 5% bonus to dropsuit sprint speed, max stamina and stamina recovery.-scouts need I'd strongly consider not taking the 5th level; it's a luxury in most cases. This is just for Dropsuit Upgrades btw. so whats that minus what scouts need
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 133	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:08:00 - [13] - Quote In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when new dropsuits come into the game?
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 391	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:10:00 - [14] - Quote I will also just go core skills and pretend I am SP poor til I get a feel for it. My plan is to not waste any SP.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3699	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:10:00 - [15] - Quote But I don't want people to spend their skill points wisely so I will have an advantage despite having less than 5 million.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3878	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:10:00 - [16] - Quote Icy Xenosmilus wrote: Can someone tell me exactly how much SP I need for Prototype Amarr Medium (Tier 1) and Prototype Scrambler Rifle/Pistol? Also Complex Shields and Armor Repairs to be helpful. :) lets see To get Amarr medium you need drop suit lvl 3 and Amarr Medium 1 To get a scrambler rifle you need weaponry 3, Light Weapons 1, Sidearms 1, and Scrambler Rifle 1 and Scrambler Pistol 1. Minimal spec costs are. DC3 68400 AM1 37320 WE3 68400 WO1 12440 SR1 12440 SP1 12440 Or 211,440 Minimal To access to get the proto weapons its 1.430240 and with Protosuit its 3,258,440 No core skills.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 391	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:12:00 - [17] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? Dont think he would be pushing ppl to be cautious if this time was not permanent.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 649	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:14:00 - [18] - Quote No. I'll be going Caldari tank even though I know it will suck.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 391	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:15:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: But I don't want people to spend their skill points wisely so I will have an advantage despite having less than 5 million. Sounds like you took the last build off.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 557	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:22:00 - [20] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: mollerz wrote: I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can. Iron Wolf, Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition? To go full proto in logi 11 mil won't get you close. My spreadsheet is mocking me. 11 mil to dedicate to logistics and I still feel like a noob. Maybe 15 mil will cover it but I want to see what the many of those skills actually do first.

J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:22:00 - [21] - Quote ladwar wrote: J-Lewis wrote: I did the maths: It'll take 10,260,360 SP to max out all core skills (skills that affect all dropsuits). Max Core Bonuses: 50% bonus to dropsuit scan range.-scouts need 30% bonus to dropsuit max PG and CPU. 25% bonus to dropsuit maximum armor and shield. 25% bonus to dropsuit hacking speed.-scouts need 10% bonus to dropsuit scan profile and precision. -scouts need 5% bonus to dropsuit sprint speed, max stamina and stamina recovery.-scouts need I'd strongly consider not taking the 5th level; it's a luxury in most cases. This is just for Dropsuit Upgrades btw. so whats that minus what scouts need Disregarding scan profile, precision and range, along with systems hacking entirely (what I assume you mean w/regards to scouts), we end up with 5,907,480 SP.
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 133	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:24:00 - [22] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? Dont think he would be pushing ppl to be cautious if this time was not permanent. It seems weird, that they didn't add all the "suits" at the same time. Because I think some people want to use some suits that they won't see right now and they can't wait for them saving their SP because they won't be able to make a competitive gameplay just using militia gear (it's not that easy)
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:27:00 - [23] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: mollerz wrote: I will first focus on what I consider to be "core" skills and then consider the role I want to play the most- and specialize as best I can. Iron Wolf, Do you see 11M SP being good for specializing into one role or would there be enough for another role in addition? To go full proto in logi 11 mil won't get you close. My spreadsheet is mocking me. 11 mil to dedicate to logistics and I still feel like a noob. Maybe 15 mil will cover it but I want to see what the many of those skills actually do first. TBH 11 million SP isn't that much in New Eden terms. It only seems like a lot now because we've only been properly accruing them since open beta. In three years time, another 10x to level five won't feel as painful as it does now, because all the alternatives are just as long. I'm training 20 day long drone skills right now... and I hardly feel it.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3878	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:27:00 - [24] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? To be honest I have no idea, I always been an omni-soldier and always specced into everything, if anything this new build is going to hurt me the most. If anything dropsuit core upgrades, dropsuit electronics and dropsuit engeineering, dropsuit armor upgrades, and dorpsuit shield upgrades are the first skills I am maxxing out in the new build (and not the sub skills)
des polo The Lions Guard 27	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:28:00 - [25] - Quote Why are you telling people to use their sp wisely the smart ones with only a couple million sp should be given a chance.
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 133	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:30:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? To be honest I have no idea, I always been an omni-soldier and always specced into everything, if anything this new build is going to hurt me the most. If anything dropsuit core upgrades, dropsuit electronics and dropsuit engeineering, dropsuit armor upgrades, and dorpsuit shield upgrades are the first skills I am maxxing out in the new build (and not the sub skills) Can you tell me what do you mean with "sub skills"? PS: Another question: What can you tell about the new weapons? They're added "to be tested" or most like a final version? I ask because as you said, if you want to spend your sp wisely, you need to knok what kind of weapon will you use.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:34:00 - [27] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? To be honest I have no idea, I always been an omni-soldier and always specced into everything, if anything this new build is going to hurt me the most. If anything dropsuit core upgrades, dropsuit electronics and dropsuit engeineering, dropsuit armor upgrades, and dorpsuit shield upgrades are the first skills I am maxxing out in the new build (and not the sub skills) Can you tell me what do you mean with "sub skills"? Skills such as Cardiac Regulation or Armor Plating are what IWS is referring to as sub skills; they are skills that affect modules rather than dropsuits.
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 133	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:37:00 - [28] - Quote J-Lewis wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? To be honest I have no idea, I always been an omni-soldier and always specced into everything, if anything this new build is going to hurt me the most. If anything dropsuit core upgrades, dropsuit electronics and dropsuit engeineering, dropsuit armor upgrades, and dorpsuit shield upgrades are the first skills I am maxxing out in the new build (and not the sub skills) Can you tell me what do you mean with "sub skills"? Skills such as Cardiac Regulation or Armor Plating are what IWS is referring to as sub skills; they are skills that affect modules rather than dropsuits. I understand. So your advice is spend the sp in "passive skills" that affects all the dropsuits.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3699	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:39:00 - [29] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: But I don't want people to spend their skill points wisely so I will have an advantage despite having less than 5 million. Sounds like you took the last build off. Well it was extremely BORING , I hate grinding instead of playing for fun, and it was so long since we had anything new to keep my interest.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 45	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:39:00 - [30] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: J-Lewis wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: In your opinion, can we expect new "SP respect" when dropsuits come into the game? To be honest I have no idea, I always been an omni-soldier and always specced into everything, if anything this new build is going to hurt me the most. If anything dropsuit core upgrades, dropsuit electronics and dropsuit engeineering, dropsuit armor upgrades, and dorpsuit shield upgrades are the first skills I am maxxing out in the new build (and not the sub skills) Can you tell me what do you mean with "sub skills"? Skills such as Cardiac Regulation or Armor Plating are what IWS is referring to as sub skills; they are skills that affect modules rather than dropsuits. I understand. So your advice is spend the sp in "passive skills" that affects all the dropsuits. Exactly! e: But again, take it slow and pick the ones you need the most first.



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