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Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 271	Posted - 2013.05.04 16:57:00 - [1] - Quote Two things. First to the people saying they ONLY did this to "push boosters". Well, CCP has to make some money off this game. It's kind of expensive to develop games and that seems a decently fair approach. Of course I'd prefer more cosmetics. Of course anything they do to change the game making it more difficult or grindy even if motivated entirely by game design will be met by accusations of "Evil capitalists!. The devs should work for free and starve themselves rather than attempt to monetize their work". Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Personally I've played countless MMO's, some free some paid. I have never discovered an MMO type game where you could achieve a max level character in under a couple months. Level up, run dungeons, run raids, collect gear upgrades till you meet the progression level of players who have been there forever. This always takes a while. Why do you feel Dust should be a game where you reach a max character (which for all intents and purposes being proto in a single specialization is) in under a month the way Dust has been so far?
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 726	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:00:00 - [2] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2140	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:01:00 - [3] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: too long. 1-2 months even! Personally I've played countless MMO's, some free some paid. I have never discovered an MMO type game where you could achieve a max level character in under a couple months. Someone's never played World of Warcraft.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1375	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:02:00 - [4] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with. Even with boosters, it will take you 8 weeks of treating DUST like a second job.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:02:00 - [5] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with. That could be totally ridiculous if that's how it calculates out to be. But what if the real thing they want is to delay the presence of proto gear in battles to begin with. Like how long does it take to make a Titan in Eve but they're still not totally OP. Is that possible and could it be a good thing or no
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 412	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:03:00 - [6] - Quote Tiel Syysch wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with. Makes a change from other games where you can get everything in a week
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:03:00 - [7] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: too long. 1-2 months even! Personally I've played countless MMO's, some free some paid. I have never discovered an MMO type game where you could achieve a max level character in under a couple months. Someone's never played World of Warcraft. A long, long time ago. BWL, AQ40, original NAX lol. I know things have changed since tier 2 was max gear.
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 126	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:04:00 - [8] - Quote wasn't this the same kid that was bitching about how it was "unfair" that he missed out of the 3X SP on Thursday?
CAELAN Andoril Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:04:00 - [9] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with. Even with boosters, it will take you 8 weeks of treating DUST like a second job. Doesn't CCP do that with everything they do?
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 63	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:05:00 - [10] - Quote Honestly, just make everything 100% passive if your going down this route. The grind will be a huge turn-off to new and mid-range players.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1375	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:06:00 - [11] - Quote CAELAN Andoril wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with. Even with boosters, it will take you 8 weeks of treating DUST like a second job. Doesn't CCP do that with everything they do? I don't have to play EVE 18 hours a week to get my Recon V skill in less than 3 months. So no, this is totally mixing grinding and pay to win.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 129	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:06:00 - [12] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: wasn't this the same kid that was bitching about how it was "unfair" that he missed out of the 3X SP on Thursday? Something he shall be regretting for the next year
Tiel Syysch Imperfects Negative-Feedback 727	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:10:00 - [13] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: Tiel Syysch wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Second to the people saying this will make specializing take too long. 1-2 months even! Without boosters, it will take you 14 weeks to max your suit (if you cap out every single week). ONLY your suit. You then have weapons, modules, equipment, passives to deal with. That could be totally ridiculous if that's how it calculates out to be. It is how it calculates to be. 310920 (think that's SP to max a x1 skill) x 16 = 4974720 to max suit specialization skills (x6 + x10 skills) 4974720 / 51200 (daily representation of active+passive cap) = 97.1625 days = 13.88 weeks (14.74 weeks with dropsuit command in there)
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:25:00 - [14] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: wasn't this the same kid that was bitching about how it was "unfair" that he missed out of the 3X SP on Thursday? No, maybe because I wasn't 'bitching' about missing anything. It was about their messages being unclear as everyone admitted. They rely on old Eve players who know what implications are hidden in their messages about timing. Things like "At downtime" or "IN GMT" were not explicit. Plus I took issue with the time-frame the event existed in because it was unfair to other players. I happened to have had the time to go through all of it if I wanted to. So get your facts straight next time :)
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:27:00 - [15] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Protoman Is God wrote: wasn't this the same kid that was bitching about how it was "unfair" that he missed out of the 3X SP on Thursday? Something he shall be regretting for the next year What the missing SP or having made a post about CCP's expectation that new players rely on experience they don't have with the company to extrapolate information which veterans of Eve can see was implied?
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:42:00 - [16] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Protoman Is God wrote: wasn't this the same kid that was bitching about how it was "unfair" that he missed out of the 3X SP on Thursday? Something he shall be regretting for the next year missing SP
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2013.05.04 17:46:00 - [17] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Protoman Is God wrote: wasn't this the same kid that was bitching about how it was "unfair" that he missed out of the 3X SP on Thursday? Something he shall be regretting for the next year missing SP That's yet to be seen lol. But the way it was explained to me is that I in fact did not "lose" anything! So how could I be upset at all :P


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