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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:06:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:*sighs* I hate it when someone brings up a good point, but presents it like moron in all caps in the wrong section.
An AV weapon should not be available if a tank of the same meta level isn't also available. So should we remove officer weapons till all weapons have one of the same meta level. I personally don't care if they do it for officer gear, but would make sense actually. You make a terrible comparison anyway. One anti-infantry weapon vs another anti-infantry weapon is not analogous to AV against tank. AV vs tank is more like offense vs defense, where the offense is designed to destroy the defense; making the lack of meta level symmetry even more of a balance problem. A better analogy would be to compare shield extenders vs scrambler rifles (which does high shield damage). Would you want prototype scrambler rifles available when only standard shield extenders available. Except the tank can kill an AV unit in less than a second, so that argument falls apart. Besides, I'll be damned if I'm giving up my Boundless REs and Flux nades just because tankers are QQing. And I'm sure Forge heavies aren't going to be willing to give up their protos just because of tanker tears(they're already crying about their "nerf" as it is)
Your fits and stuff costs almost nothing compared to a well built tank, the fact that they can kill you fast is pretty unimportant considering you can keep using up fits with only a fraction of the tank's costs. If it was the other way around with the addition of proto tanks, and no proto AV, you would be the one here QQing. |
Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
270
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:07:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:ccp every time you reset this game the same thing happens as far as av and vehicles go and now you are taking away the adv havs to rework them do you really expect the tanking community to spec at all into these monstrous sp sink you have designed knowing ultimately ona scale they are the weakest class you expect us to lose million trying to face proto av with standard havs because if so then i assume your going to sit and watch slowly as the number of people who arnt 100 % ar dwindle down to 0
i get you are frustrated; however, in saying that, losing your Sagaris & Surya atm isn't "that" big of a deal, as from what i know, most tankers can run the exact same fit (give or take) in a Gung/Sag or Mady/Surya. Usually the biggest difference b/t fits are the small turret types (though can correct if wrong).
So yeah, calm down man. Yes it does suck, as the new enforcer tanks aren't gana cut it; but complaining to remove proto AV at the same time is foolish. Yes does AV have kinks, it sure does; but when CCP tries to do 2 things at once things becomes worse. Let them do one at a time. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:18:00 -
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LOL wow this thread is hilarious, i mean seriously "take proto AV out until we get our Proto tanks", You know how dumb that sounds right? And when they put back in Proto tanks you guys will still be pulling the same redline camping bullshit, HTFU and adapt.
I do want to point out that you guys can recall your vehicles AT ANYTIME. Taking lots of AV, hide behind a hill hop out and recall, i can just image how many of you pussies will get hit by a few AV and run back home to recall your precious tank.
Leave AV how it is |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:44:00 -
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This is pitiful. What about prototype Assault Rifles? Should we remove them until everyone is in Prototype Dropsuits with Prototype Shield Extenders? Maybe we should also remove Prototype Stamina modules because they make the Scouts feel inadequate?
If he put all his points into AV to kill your vehicular hindparts, then he deserves a commendation for his forethought and sacrificing his 'vs AR nut' proficiency. Tanks cost alot, yea. So don't skill into them if you don't think you can make the grade. If ALL your points are in tanks, it's your own fault. A Capsuleer with nothing but Titan skills is a useless Capsuleer. |
Ulysses Knapse
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:04:00 -
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They should take out Advanced AV, too, because we don't have real Advanced HAVs, we have standard HAVs and fancy marauders, the marauders barely being any better and costing six times as much. |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:16:00 -
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I cannot figure out if you people are actually unaware of the situation or are just trolling, but here geos. They are not saying remove Proto Av because not everyone is in Proto tanks, they are saying remove proto av because there are no Proto tanks to skill into. It is a vastly different sitiuation from some people not using proto suits and their being proto weapons on the field. at the very least its possible to get to proto gear with the tanks there are simply not any proto tanks to skill into.
+1 remove proto Av until proto tanks are in the game.
do not remove adv AV because their are proto LAVs. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
396
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:40:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:SILENTSAM 69 wrote: -- snip clearly stated opinion -- -- snip hate filled Internet Screaming Mode rage from ... some dead-ish demon ... ish -- -- snip reasonable response to same -- -- snip weird response that might have made it all the way to an apology if only he had stopped after the thought -- Since you obviously broke about 1/4 of the Forum rules, why don't you just ban your sweet own self for a month or so.
Have a nice day, somewhere else. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
408
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Posted - 2013.05.04 12:02:00 -
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Yup hes right |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 12:11:00 -
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A good idea, just not greatly presented, agreed on it though. |
Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 12:39:00 -
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+1 PSYCHO |
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