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slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:57:00 -
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What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed? |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:00:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed? I think you can call back it when it is in proper shape only... And you can't call back hacked vehicles... So i'v heard... |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:01:00 -
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nothing, except they would have to get somewhere reasonably safe.
sounds like a valid mechanic to me same as using depots for grenade spam and repairing HP. |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:08:00 -
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We need it like we need Eject buttons on Drop ships. |
Spy Mouse
New Eden Space Pirates
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:27:00 -
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Call in a dropship, fly to a rooftop, drop an uplink, recall dropship. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3667
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:32:00 -
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If you can manage to perform the callback to your critically damaged tank while swarms and forge gun shots are coming, and you somehow succeed, then you deserve to keep it. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1060
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:34:00 -
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Call back isn't instantaneous, you have to hack it. That means this takes time, so burning vehicles will probably blow up before they are sent back if at all. |
Terry Webber
Gothic Wars Consortium
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:47:00 -
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I agree with most of these comments. Recalling vehicles will not be abused. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:42:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed?
Why are you allowed to change suits with supply depots and get insta-full heal and spam av nades? If that is not abuse, what is abuse? But i am an assault guy I can do everyhting. Dum+ƒ |
Herrick Arcos
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:06:00 -
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Though it takes some time, there is nothing stopping a tanker from recalling his tank when he is pinned down behind cover by av or an enemy tank. All that is needed is some cover and a few moments to hack. |
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slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:47:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed? Why are you allowed to change suits with supply depots and get insta-full heal and spam av nades? If that is not abuse, what is abuse? But i am an assault guy I can do everyhting. Dum+ƒ
good dropsuits don't take 2 to three guys a whole minute to down |
Ops Fox
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:41:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:BOZ MR wrote:slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed? Why are you allowed to change suits with supply depots and get insta-full heal and spam av nades? If that is not abuse, what is abuse? But i am an assault guy I can do everyhting. Dum+ƒ good dropsuits don't take 2 to three guys a whole minute to down
2 or 3 guys a whole minute? what game are you playing that one sounds like it has tanks that actually work.
edit 2 or 3 guys can throw 6 to 9 Av grenades in a couple of seconds and annihilate a tank in one or two volleys. |
Herrick Arcos
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
90
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:04:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:slypie11 wrote:BOZ MR wrote:slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed? Why are you allowed to change suits with supply depots and get insta-full heal and spam av nades? If that is not abuse, what is abuse? But i am an assault guy I can do everyhting. Dum+ƒ good dropsuits don't take 2 to three guys a whole minute to down 2 or 3 guys a whole minute? what game are you playing that one sounds like it has tanks that actually work. edit 2 or 3 guys can throw 6 to 9 Av grenades in a couple of seconds and annihilate a tank in one or two volleys.
Or the 6 seconds it takes to fire 2 breach forge rounds. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
220
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:17:00 -
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Whats stopping people switching rom Proto to free starter at a supply depot? gotta be quick! |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2235
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Posted - 2013.05.04 13:34:00 -
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Let them abuse it like a red headed step child
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Jathniel
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:58:00 -
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(Don't take the following personally, it's not directed at you in particular, OP.)
How exactly is retreating an abuse?
What a stupidly sickening pattern I see here...!
-People retreating to the red zone is an abuse.
-People pulling back to the supply depot to lick wounds and re-arm is an abuse.
-People using supplies from a supply depot to actually fight and use grenades etc is an abuse.
Now, people attempting to recall and preserve their precious assets (a tank) is an abuse?
Anytime someone does something smart, it's an abuse?
Why don't people just say, "Hey, you're smarter than me! I'm suing God! Your being born is an abuse!"
People need to stop being so damned narrow-minded in how they think this game should work... |
Straum Arjn
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 22:05:00 -
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^That guy. No one should be punished for good tactical thinking. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
288
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Posted - 2013.05.04 22:10:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed?
other people... |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:05:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:(Don't take the following personally, it's not directed at you in particular, OP.)
How exactly is retreating an abuse?
What a stupidly sickening pattern I see here...!
-People retreating to the red zone is an abuse.
-People pulling back to the supply depot to lick wounds and re-arm is an abuse.
-People using supplies from a supply depot to actually fight and use grenades etc is an abuse.
Now, people attempting to recall and preserve their precious assets (a tank) is an abuse?
Anytime someone does something smart, it's an abuse?
Why don't people just say, "Hey, you're smarter than me! I'm suing God! Your being born is an abuse!"
People need to stop being so damned narrow-minded in how they think this game should work...
thank you for showing me the light. Now that I think about it, it kind of makes sense, although I would suggest a small isk cost for making the bola drop your tank and then making him risk his/her/its neck to go get it again. It would be really cool to have a squad defend a badly damaged HAV while its owner tries to recall it and the enemy is throwing all its AV at it |
Jathniel
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 07:56:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Jathniel wrote:(Don't take the following personally, it's not directed at you in particular, OP.)
How exactly is retreating an abuse?
What a stupidly sickening pattern I see here...!
-People retreating to the red zone is an abuse.
-People pulling back to the supply depot to lick wounds and re-arm is an abuse.
-People using supplies from a supply depot to actually fight and use grenades etc is an abuse.
Now, people attempting to recall and preserve their precious assets (a tank) is an abuse?
Anytime someone does something smart, it's an abuse?
Why don't people just say, "Hey, you're smarter than me! I'm suing God! Your being born is an abuse!"
People need to stop being so damned narrow-minded in how they think this game should work... thank you for showing me the light. Now that I think about it, it kind of makes sense, although I would suggest a small isk cost for making the bola drop your tank and then making him risk his/her/its neck to go get it again. It would be really cool to have a squad defend a badly damaged HAV while its owner tries to recall it and the enemy is throwing all its AV at it
Bingo. That's it. You got it.
Let everything boil down to a shoot out.
We have to let things unfold on a battlefield, and stop trying to control things via game system rules. Options are always better. Don't want the tank to leave? Better go after it. |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:55:00 -
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How do you stop them from recalling a tank?
If you do it right the tank will be dead before they can fully retreat.
Problem solved. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
997
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Posted - 2013.05.05 09:59:00 -
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I can't wait ^^
"**** my tank fell off the mountain.. just gonna recall, respawn and call it in again" |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
770
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:03:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:I can't wait ^^
"**** my tank fell off the mountain.. just gonna recall, respawn and call it in again"
meanwhile blueberries drive over you and steal your tank because you're a screwup. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
997
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:14:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I can't wait ^^
"**** my tank fell off the mountain.. just gonna recall, respawn and call it in again" meanwhile blueberries drive over you and steal your tank because you're a screwup.
:'( |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
157
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Posted - 2013.05.05 10:16:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I can't wait ^^
"**** my tank fell off the mountain.. just gonna recall, respawn and call it in again" meanwhile blueberries drive over you and steal your tank because you're a screwup. :'(
god that's happened to me when I call an orbital |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
399
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Posted - 2013.05.05 11:26:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed? First, you don't know anything about it until it drops on Monday. You could have waited until you had actual data to rely on. 
Generic They Will Abuse It Answer
Welcome to video gaming.
Gamers game everything. They bend the rules, break the game, twist the physics and any every other thing they can to gain an advantage or ... because they wondered if they could do it.
It is never going to change.
Designers write games.
Gamers get around the limitations/restrictions/whatever.
Designers counter the problem.
Loop for ever. |
Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.05 11:27:00 -
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As far as I know, Bolas can be shot down too. What's stopping people from shooting the Bola (and the tank underneath) when it's retreating? Or before it has even picked up the tank? Nothing I guess, so there you have it. Either run after the tank or target the Bola.
The callback feature is very useful and sending your tank back is by no means abuse. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1376
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:01:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed?
The fact that it'll be long past blown up by the time you jump out and finish the process, and that's only if your enemy doesn't switch targets to you and gun you down first. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:13:00 -
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The RDV doesn't re-appear to pick up your tank. It just phases off the battlefield. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1390
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:32:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:As far as I know, Bolas can be shot down too. What's stopping people from shooting the Bola (and the tank underneath) when it's retreating? Or before it has even picked up the tank? Nothing I guess, so there you have it. Either run after the tank or target the Bola.
The callback feature is very useful and sending your tank back is by no means abuse.
When vehicles get recalled they just disappear, no RDV's are involved, thank god... |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
308
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:42:00 -
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Sleepy Shadow wrote:As far as I know, Bolas can be shot down too. What's stopping people from shooting the Bola (and the tank underneath) when it's retreating? Or before it has even picked up the tank? Nothing I guess, so there you have it. Either run after the tank or target the Bola.
The callback feature is very useful and sending your tank back is by no means abuse.
bolas only drop vehicles so if you can keep them from re-calling in then what are you complaining about. btw in most maps theres spots where a rail tank can stop every vehicle drop in the enemy zone while either in the redzone or just a short distance from it. and bolas is single so bola is incorrect. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation
Squale Operation Empire
59
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:44:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:What's to stop people from calling back their vehicle when it's almost destroyed?
Bring me my swarm launcher. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2707
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:47:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:I can't wait ^^
"**** my tank fell off the mountain.. just gonna recall, respawn and call it in again"
Did it fall off the mountain while you're in it?
No? So you're climbing down from the mountain, recalling the tank, climbing back up and calling another one?
Yes? So you're recalling the tank instead of driving back up? |
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