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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:19:00 -
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I just wanted to point out that getting OBS is easy. We get 2-4 OBS every game in the current 4 man squads.
With the advent of 6 man squads, getting the 2500 WP limit will be faster and hence getting OBS will be faster. Wih Eve support these OBS are going to be deadlier.
With all the frigging noobs and dimwits this game has to offer we are going to see a lot of QQing.
CCP: Please raise the limit for the OBS or put in a cool down time for OBS or be prepared with a big swimming pool to collect the tears from noob and dimwit central out here! |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:20:00 -
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OBs are a broken mechanic. They are currently the "great equalizer" or the "win more" tool.
CCPs answer to these concerns - if you are good you can get one too ... |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:21:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:OBs are a broken mechanic. They are currently the "great equalizer" or the "win more" tool.
CCPs answer to these concerns - if you are good you can get one too ...
Gawd! I would hate to be on the forums if that's the case. It will be QQ 514! |
Bendtner92
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:22:00 -
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2500 WP for an OB is currently 625 per player, so logically it should be raised to 3750 WP for an OB. I'm hoping they will raise it to at least 5000 (preferably even more).
Although it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't touch it at all and it's still at 2500. |
Berserker007
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:22:00 -
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hopefully CCP is smart enough to raise the OP sp requirement from 2500 to something else, maybe 3500, who knows |
WE LOVE ReGnUM
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:22:00 -
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Ambush or Skirmish |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:22:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:OBs are a broken mechanic. They are currently the "great equalizer" or the "win more" tool.
CCPs answer to these concerns - if you are good you can get one too ... Gawd! I would hate to be on the forums if that's the case. It will be QQ 514!
They were asked that exact question at fanfest, and that is their exact response. Surprised there wasn't raging already. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:23:00 -
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On the flip side, it will be that much easier for squads of noobs / less skilled players to get an OB, letting them get some kills on players far more skilled / better equipped than them.
It's going to be interesting to see, that's for sure. |
D Roc43
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:23:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:2500 WP for an OB is currently 625 per player, so logically it should be raised to 3750 WP for an OB. I'm hoping they will raise it to at least 5000 (preferably even more).
Although it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't touch it at all and it's still at 2500.
Yeah I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:On the flip side, it will be that much easier for squads of noobs / less skilled players to get an OB, letting them get some kills on players far more skilled / better equipped than them.
It's going to be interesting to see, that's for sure.
Rest assured noobs wont get a chance to reach even 1000 SP. The vets will ensure that. |
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:26:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:On the flip side, it will be that much easier for squads of noobs / less skilled players to get an OB, letting them get some kills on players far more skilled / better equipped than them.
It's going to be interesting to see, that's for sure.
Why do they deserve to kill the better players that they can't win a gunfight with? It's not an area denial tool, it is an "I Win" as they are inescapable (there is the luck of poor placement by the issuer, but that's not a legitimate defense). A simply 2-3 second delay would allow you to clear a bunkered down objective, not just blop everyone dead wherever you see red. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:27:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:I just wanted to point out that getting OBS is easy. We get 2-4 OBS every game in the current 4 man squads.
With the advent of 6 man squads, getting the 2500 WP limit will be faster and hence getting OBS will be faster. Wih Eve support these OBS are going to be deadlier.
With all the frigging noobs and dimwits this game has to offer we are going to see a lot of QQing.
CCP: Please raise the limit for the OBS or put in a cool down time for OBS or be prepared with a big swimming pool to collect the tears from noob and dimwit central out here!
It's going to be awesome |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:29:00 -
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Each player should add to the requirement. 2000 for solo player, then 2250, 2500, 2750, 3000, and 3500 for the last one just because you make up 1/3 of the team. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:30:00 -
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I well timed OB can totally throw a battle in the opposite direction of where it was headed. I view OBs as a tactical object and not a "hurr durr we just go an OB lets use it guize!" object. I'm fine with the amount of WP to obtain one stays the same because most idiots will just use them immediately to see "KILL, KILL, KILL....." flash across their screen instead of using it when it may really make a difference. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:34:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I well timed OB can totally throw a battle in the opposite direction of where it was headed. I view OBs as a tactical object and not a "hurr durr we just go an OB lets use it guize!" object. I'm fine with the amount of WP to obtain one stays the same because most idiots will just use them immediately to see "KILL, KILL, KILL....." flash across their screen instead of using it when it may really make a difference.
It's still free kills. Using them tactically just makes *you* smarter, not OBs more less unfair. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:34:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Why do they deserve to kill the better players that they can't win a gunfight with? It's not an area denial tool, it is an "I Win" as they are inescapable (there is the luck of poor placement by the issuer, but that's not a legitimate defense). A simply 2-3 second delay would allow you to clear a bunkered down objective, not just blop everyone dead wherever you see red.
Well warbarge precision strikes shouldn't even be in PC if you ask me, if you want an orbital strike, you NEED an EVE pilot. Those do have a bit of a delay to them, or so I've been told.
This isn't so much about "deserve" as it is about making a cool and fun gaming environment. If we were going off of "deserve", EVE pilots would "deserve" to have unlimited orbitals and just glass every DUST match ever |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Why do they deserve to kill the better players that they can't win a gunfight with? It's not an area denial tool, it is an "I Win" as they are inescapable (there is the luck of poor placement by the issuer, but that's not a legitimate defense). A simply 2-3 second delay would allow you to clear a bunkered down objective, not just blop everyone dead wherever you see red. Well warbarge precision strikes shouldn't even be in PC if you ask me, if you want an orbital strike, you NEED an EVE pilot. Those do have a bit of a delay to them, or so I've been told. This isn't so much about "deserve" as it is about making a cool and fun gaming environment. If we were going off of "deserve", EVE pilots would "deserve" to have unlimited orbitals and just glass every DUST match ever
Deserve as in work for it. Not deserve as in realism. 100% agree warbarge strikes in PC means no one will bother to get EVE support, keeping the games isolated.
Hmm, that would be a great second task for the CSM... |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:09:00 -
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Great be raining OB on my HAV now |
SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:13:00 -
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I'm thinking this:
EVE Orbital Bombardment costs 5000 WP to call down and does wide area, high damage as it does now.
War Barge Precision Strike costs 3000 WP to call down but does half the Area and Damage of Orbital Bombardment.
This would allow for NUB's (proper spelling of military acronym for Non Useful Bodies) who don't have EVE support to be able to call strikes.
The higher cost of EVE strikes would prevent the Vets from using too many OB's and totally dominating the match.
(it would also give people an interesting choice of whether to call in cheap PS or wait to earn OB) |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
397
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:18:00 -
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Nope make it a flat 5k or even 10k tbh
Its kinda easy to earn 1k WP for each member |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:27:00 -
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My reaction having only seen warbarge strikes, after uprising hits and proper OB's start getting called down "ooh pretty lights" |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:32:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:I just wanted to point out that getting OBS is easy. We get 2-4 OBS every game in the current 4 man squads.
With the advent of 6 man squads, getting the 2500 WP limit will be faster and hence getting OBS will be faster. Wih Eve support these OBS are going to be deadlier.
With all the frigging noobs and dimwits this game has to offer we are going to see a lot of QQing.
CCP: Please raise the limit for the OBS or put in a cool down time for OBS or be prepared with a big swimming pool to collect the tears from noob and dimwit central out here!
exactly why it's going to be glorious |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:34:00 -
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gbghg wrote:My reaction having only seen warbarge strikes, after uprising hits and proper OB's start getting called down "ooh pretty lights"
yup, lasers and hybrids are purty |
TheSprayNPray2
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:40:00 -
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well if it 2500 points for 4 players... wouldn't they just make it 3750 for 6 players? Even though orbitals are very easy to get |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.05.03 17:52:00 -
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I always wondered if it wouldn't be cooler if you had to actually BUY an orbital strike. Paying ISK, or sacrificing WP for it. |
TheMarkOf22
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.03 18:01:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:I just wanted to point out that getting OBS is easy. We get 2-4 OBS every game in the current 4 man squads.
With the advent of 6 man squads, getting the 2500 WP limit will be faster and hence getting OBS will be faster. Wih Eve support these OBS are going to be deadlier.
With all the frigging noobs and dimwits this game has to offer we are going to see a lot of QQing.
CCP: Please raise the limit for the OBS or put in a cool down time for OBS or be prepared with a big swimming pool to collect the tears from noob and dimwit central out here!
doing it in pubs with a clan is easy, trying playing a clan and get one, hell play us the first week i bet your whole team wouldn't add up to 2500 wps.
Don't base everything off pubs where everything is significantly easier |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 18:53:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:I just wanted to point out that getting OBS is easy. We get 2-4 OBS every game in the current 4 man squads.
With the advent of 6 man squads, getting the 2500 WP limit will be faster and hence getting OBS will be faster. Wih Eve support these OBS are going to be deadlier.
With all the frigging noobs and dimwits this game has to offer we are going to see a lot of QQing.
CCP: Please raise the limit for the OBS or put in a cool down time for OBS or be prepared with a big swimming pool to collect the tears from noob and dimwit central out here! doing it in pubs with a clan is easy, trying playing a clan and get one, hell play us the first week i bet your whole team wouldn't add up to 2500 wps. Don't base everything off pubs where everything is significantly easier
ROTFLMFAO! Nice troll
#someonethinkstheyR2gud |
Vin Vicious
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:41:00 -
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remove them from public matches,
-2500wp you could get solo -theres no link from eve to dust for them -no friendly fire -kills everything under it, even if youre under an object. -no interiors, so its impossible to avoid it.
completely pointless mechanic in public matches. try and justifie it.
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Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
35
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:15:00 -
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Well, easy. Take OB out of pub games.
I always though OB in pub matches is kinda stupid anyways, because as stated before, it usually becomes the "oh, you are stomping your enemy and they are at their base without any chance to fight back? Here have this AoE massive damage that kills in one hit so you can kill those defenseless assholes while they are at their base :D"
[Edit: I just read the post above me. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one]
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