I can't take you seriously with that IMPSwarm corp tag.

I can't take you seriously with that IMPSwarm corp tag.

That's an obstacle I knew I would have to deal with in accepting the tag, but I place the burden back on the reader to manage their own bias and treat individuals as individuals.

sounds like a personal issue.

I'm just going to take a wild guess and say that I'm probably not the only person that thinks this. A news reporter with an affiliation is most likely biased, diminishing credibility to post things like this.

imp swarm.. I killed one of your guys today. pub match, probably not his fault, his team sucked.

Where's the credibility threat?

Not specifying this thread, but rather all threads as a whole. I think this thread was less biased than it was influenced by Imp mentality. By that I mean the, "we don't trust anyone but ourselves," mentality that most people possess but Imps make most verbal. My point isn't that you intentionally change info to suit your corp, but rather you are passively influenced to your own corp members' views, which in turn changes credibility.

Don't know if you noticed, but I was gone for two weeks. Doesn't seem so instantaneous to me.

I'm just going to take a wild guess and say that I'm probably not the only person that thinks this. A news reporter with an affiliation is most likely biased, diminishing credibility to post things like this.

People's council (CPM watchdog):
Mithridates VI
Veiny Throbbing Joystick
Tiberion Deci


People's council watchdog:
Crash Monster

Not I.

Then it is down to me and Tiberion Deci.

Tibby, do you wanna go over the issue of CPM openly exploiting afk?

Your trolling this thread by disregarding the very clear instruction that this was expressions of intent has changed my mind and I now support the AFK. I mean the CPM. Both. I support both.

1. Not trolling.

Disqualified for lying. Start your own club and get out of my thread.

Wow, the democratic air sure got blown away so quickly. "Get out of my thread," this isn't your thread, this isn't anyone's thread, this is a discussion and if you don't like what I am saying, you can ignore me, argue with me, but you can't tell me to get out of "your thread".

"we don't trust anyone but ourselves,"

Troll-shield activated.

Trolls are everywhere, just learn to ignore them and stay on topic.



I, Sir V. Joystick, hereby declare my intent to run for The Peeple's Council.

Honestly, I don't know why we need another council to govern the council. If we the people have a problem with the CPM, then everyone speaks out.

PLOT TWIST.... YOU ARE THE TROLL

I can't take you seriously with that IMPSwarm corp tag.

Where did that even come from? Calling people trolls out of the blue? Is this how this works now?

Shouldn't be so quick to judge. There's only a few individuals I don't care for (which goes for members in a few other corps as well), but corp or alliance affiliation shouldn't be a reason to disregard a well written and thought out post.

A watchdog group for a watchdog group.

God bless good ole fashioned bureaucracy.

Okay for the real feedback on this. I applaud the effort Mith but in truth its a redundant effort. Ultimately the real issue is getting an elected CPM and for that to occur CPM needs a charter of ideals, bylaws, and mechanisms for not only election but removal and no-confidence votes.

However a thing to remember about unfiltered democracy and the underpinning on why America(the example i know best) was established as a republic, Mob rule is bad, especially when in the hands of an uninformed electorate. Unlike MMO troll FPS trolls are the masters of public assassinations and smear campaigns(sure mmo guys do it well, but FPS guys are ruthless).

This means if no-votes and recall is a mechanism in the hands of the people it becomes very easy for savvy political operators to begin to create discontent by pushing hot button issues and swelling up a mob through disinforamtion, half truth and isolation(aka the FOX News model).

There was a reason why the Senate prior to the 17th amendment was appointed by state legislature instead of directly elected because the position of power(only 2/state) was too great to put in the hands of mob rule.

This is why im a proponent that a part of the charter CPM test the idea(for future consideration to possibly CSM) a bicameral approach in which part of the seats are popularly elected and 1 maybe 2 seats are appointed by CCP after interview with the candidates, seeking the post. It serves as a sanity check for CCP but also ensure the council is truly balanced on all effects.

Why this instead of all full player elected seats? Because politics are a dirty business and power blocks begin to form and mud begins to fling. Having 1-2 appointees at least ensure CCP person(s) they feel can serve as perhaps a mediatior when opposing and vocal elected officials begin to clash behind closed doors and serves as a check against wildly changing attitudes and fluctuating demographics that are likely to occur in a F2P FPS community.

Not specifying this thread, but rather all threads as a whole. I think this thread was less biased than it was influenced by Imp mentality. By that I mean the, "we don't trust anyone but ourselves," mentality that most people possess but Imps make most verbal. My point isn't that you intentionally change info to suit your corp, but rather you are passively influenced to your own corp members' views, which in turn changes credibility.

Then it is down to me and Tiberion Deci.

Tibby, do you wanna go over the issue of CPM openly exploiting afk?

With recent dissatisfaction in mind,I am looking to form a community elected, community managed, community focused collection of mercenaries to act as a watchdog agency for the Council of Planetary Management...

If necessary, this organisation may in future declare the CPM unfit on behalf of the players who recognise this organisation and assume that organisation's responsibilities. The CPM does not work without the community's support. I want you all to remember that you have the power here.

This thread will act as an initial discussion ground and a forum to register expressions of interest in running for The People's Council. A voting system, specifics yet to be announced, will be implemented to choose true player representatives.


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