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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:13:00 -
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lets look at this from cost to success ratio, a proto FG with proto gear is 400k ISK tops, and a proto tank with proto gear would be 3 mill right? ok who will win the most out of 100 matches? for the cost it would be logical to have... so 3,000,000 divided by 400,000 is 7.5 , with that ratio compared to your personal WLR does that make sense? |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:54:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:gbghg wrote:BatKing Deltor wrote:Perhaps things are fine the way they are putting to account there's as much whining on both sides.
There may be some tweaking needed but still....
I get my 753k tank blown up,I don't rage over it, people that do are simply the type of people who are psychotic enough to yell and scream at the tv and complain on a forum later. Stupid but it how it works??? When someone destroys one of my dropships, whether it be a 200k viper or a 700k myron or grim. I don't rage, I hunt down the one who did and make him pay, a tank driver found this out the hard way a couple of days ago. poor, poor, tank driver,helots the ISK war badly. Psshh you're not scary.. :P
you sir haven't seen the amount of tank kills no matter the driver or tanks DSes get....never let your guard down so easily to a supportive vehicle when driven by a talented pilot...*whispers* neeeeeveeeeerrrrrrr. |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 23:02:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Caeli SineDeo wrote:"Tank driver are cry babies"
"Tanks take no skill you have all that HP your cheating"
"Tanks are OP because my standard swarms do not kill them"
"All tank drivers do is *****"
Edit: "Tanks need to have support"(my all time favorite)
Edit: Yet Proto AV is able to run around solo hide on roof tops solo and beat on tanks all day long. They have no reason to run around with a group. They talk about tanks needing full squads running with them. But they barely run with one other person unless it is a few of them running AV.
Should AV not be forced to be supported also?
This is all I see from people who want tanks nerfed or think they are fine the way they are. I never see any facts from them and statistics. They never take the time to test things. All they do is attack tank drivers personally for their excuses.
Yet because there is many CCP walks over to them and coddles them even though they give no support.
Tanks drivers.
We talk about tanks are becoming glass cannons. We show the facts aka look at my rail threads. We say they are going in the wrong direction. We again go over the facts with them. We talk about Forges. AV grenades. Flux. And swarms and go over the problems with them.
We talk about how match making is what makes us seem OP. Because proto tanks end up in matches with militant geared players. And newer players that do not know much. So we gain this look of power. But once you are put in a match with a squad at your lvl a proto tank turns to dust against proto AV set ups. So the stats get skewed horrible that CCP is looking at. It does not take in account the times tanks are actually thrown in against even playing field and they become candy.
Anti-tank kids come in use attack tactics with no support to their reasons.
CCP comes back buffs the current problems with AV and then on top of that makes tanks even more of a glass cannon. Which we have gone over is ruining vehicles.
CCP clearly does not know much about vehicle game play. And I have a feeling their test team sucks in these matters also. All they have is their numbers on paper that do not show the real problem. I was considering the use of tanks again for uprising but then I saw this: Enforcer Falchionshield 2k armor 770 shield recharge 22/2 CPU 320 PG 1805 Enforcer Vayushield 690 armor 2230 shield recharge 8/s CPU 210 PG 2490 For 1 mil ISK and a lot of SP requirements this is now a complete waste effort as I get frequently blow up sturdy tanks with my Forge Gun. Most dropships only requires 1-2 shots of my Forge to destroy and requires little to no risk. So far the only AV weapon that doesn't ruin vehicle gameplay is the plasma cannon as it has low damage, clip size, and slow projectile speed. These new tanks can't even be called Enforcer as it clearly can't stay in the map for long, either get someone with a forge to blow it up in 3-4 shots or get one guy to sit on a nanohive and spam AV grenades.  I really had hopes to see tanks making a comeback but now I'll just have to stay focused on infantry battles.
1 question to the underline, the DS has little to no risk (or ISK if tis a typo) or the FG load-out?
well.... I guess there's a reason why the tank skill is inside LAV operation HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA (sorry, found it funny yet VERY SAD). Tanks need to get a comeback next build (as in, next next build... the build after they did the killing blow...which is this build...as in this upcoming build... CCP you still following?).
but also on a sad note, I can say my DS has more HP then a tank and I won`t need to show the modules and skills behind it to prove it (note I`m NOT SAYING DS NEED A NERF but saying tanks need a buff). |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 23:20:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:I always wonder why a AR guy 50+ meters away starts shooting at my methana surely they cant be expecting to blow it up or snipe me out of the seat from there. But they try that is your average AV guy the ones who believe everything is AV I mean its the future right.
I might have misunderstood you so I`ll ask before ape attacking the keyboard, did you say or go off the lines off the common reply that since its the future AV will be stronger and more capable? |
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Posted - 2013.05.03 00:03:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:I always wonder why a AR guy 50+ meters away starts shooting at my methana surely they cant be expecting to blow it up or snipe me out of the seat from there. But they try that is your average AV guy the ones who believe everything is AV I mean its the future right. I might have misunderstood you so I`ll ask before ape attacking the keyboard, did you say or go off the lines off the common reply that since its the future AV will be stronger and more capable? No just a general disparaging comment on human nature allot of people seem to think they can kill any vehicle with anything because the game is set in the future and when they cant thats when the complaing begins and leads us down nerf alley. Edit for when I dont make sense I have a bad chest infection and asthma so sleep deprivation + meds are leading to nonsensical waffle. Humblest apologies.
that tends to be me lol .... sadly I`m Waffle less and stuck with these flippen pancakes  |
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