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Doshneil Antaro
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:41:00 -
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Let me first start of by going over my roots in first person shooters and their progression. First game I played multiplayer as first person was James Bond Golden Eye on the N64. My cousin picked up the sniper rifle, ran to the back of this hallway with only one way in. i walked around the corner, and blam, I'm dead. Respawn, rinse and repeat. Next Comes the game Unreal tournament on the PC, my first MMO FPS. Epic, weapons were balanced, and no notable sniper moments ever come to mind on this game. I then moved on to the Delta Force series. This was the first modern combat style game I came across that I liked. At this time I had not yet joined the military, but may have helped influence me to join later. My first game, I load in, see my team mates running in front of me, so I follow, 3 seconds later, I am struck down by a sniper hidden in the hill line. Once again...respawn, rinse and repeat. A few games later this pattern would continue, with maybe 1-2 kills per game, but I sure was raking up the deaths! After I got the feel for the controls, I realized something must be done about these guys! Camper was not a term yet coined, so I referred to them as the guys too scared to actually fight, mixed with many curse words of course. A clear pattern began to happen. Both teams spawn, run straight from their spawn straight towards the enemies. people accept the snipers, and just tried to outrun them while they tried to confront the ground fighting forces. I did not accept this myself, and wondered what would happen if I ran backwards, then to the far edges of the map? Would it be possible to sneak up on these 25-0 perfect kdr super stars? I tried it, and it worked too well. I found there blind spots with little trial an error, and began to hunt and kill nothing but these sniper pussycats. I even started to troll (yet another term not yet used) on those snipers. I would go prone, crawl through them with my knife in hand (there was no hit detection for players when they were both prone). They would see my hands in front of there face, hand clinching my blade. Panic ensues on there part. I just go back to the kneeling position and knife lunge. Over the years I look for possible sniper locations, memorize, and use this knowledge to try to avoid their kill zones, and use the info to flank and kill them, bringing me my true euphoric experience I crave from FPS, kill kitten pussycats snipers. |
Lazy Scumbag
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:27:00 -
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lonely in here...
I like snipers just fine. They never seem to notice me sneaking up behind them. |
Delta 749
Maverick Security Consulting
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Posted - 2013.05.13 08:50:00 -
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In games with kill cams I like to sneak up on camping snipers and teabag them before I kill them, juvenile I know but I want them to know how much time I had and how easily I got the drop on them
Damn shame the redline gives them so much space to hide in untouched here |
Nosaj Enyaw
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:10:00 -
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They're part of warfare, get over it. They're probably the only part of the game that resembles real combat. When a sniper does their job properly they provide a squad with excellent support and intel. Yes, it is frustrating when you're on a roll and one pops you. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
289
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:19:00 -
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The sad part is that snipers in most games don't represent modern warfare. Typically a squad under sniper fire would try to find the sniper and then call in an Airstrike or Mortar fire on him while they just chill out. There isn't alot of indirect fire support in most games to make up for snipers, though Battlefield 3 did it pretty well with the scout mortar rounds. |
Nosaj Enyaw
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.13 11:24:00 -
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Copy that, we flyover in a dropship and blast them or mark them for whoever is taking the sniper role on our squad. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
52
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Posted - 2013.05.13 16:47:00 -
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Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Copy that, we flyover in a dropship and blast them or mark them for whoever is taking the sniper role on our squad.
This tactic will be more necessary after team sizes get bigger. Keep up the piloting, and giving a use for squad dropships. |
Jean Mclain
Super Nerds
0
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Posted - 2013.05.14 14:07:00 -
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Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Copy that, we flyover in a dropship and blast them or mark them for whoever is taking the sniper role on our squad.
As a career sniper, I can assure you that we hate dropships flying overhead as much as you guys hate us. |
Nosaj Enyaw
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:58:00 -
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Jean Mclain wrote:Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Copy that, we flyover in a dropship and blast them or mark them for whoever is taking the sniper role on our squad. As a career sniper, I can assure you that we hate dropships flying overhead as much as you guys hate us.
No, no, I'm a career sniper too. I've just expanded my game for the squad and upped my turret skills for when they need me there. That's our tactic for snipers. If I'm snipping they mark them and I hit. If they bring a dropship out I'm hitting with a turret. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
304
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:14:00 -
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Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Jean Mclain wrote:Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Copy that, we flyover in a dropship and blast them or mark them for whoever is taking the sniper role on our squad. As a career sniper, I can assure you that we hate dropships flying overhead as much as you guys hate us. No, no, I'm a career sniper too. I've just expanded my game for the squad and upped my turret skills for when they need me there. That's our tactic for snipers. If I'm snipping they mark them and I hit. If they bring a dropship out I'm hitting with a turret.
Good luck with that. First thing Drops and HAVs do is take out turrets. |
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Nosaj Enyaw
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
3
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Posted - 2013.05.14 18:21:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Jean Mclain wrote:Nosaj Enyaw wrote:Copy that, we flyover in a dropship and blast them or mark them for whoever is taking the sniper role on our squad. As a career sniper, I can assure you that we hate dropships flying overhead as much as you guys hate us. No, no, I'm a career sniper too. I've just expanded my game for the squad and upped my turret skills for when they need me there. That's our tactic for snipers. If I'm snipping they mark them and I hit. If they bring a dropship out I'm hitting with a turret. Good luck with that. First thing Drops and HAVs do is take out turrets.
Read it a little slower. Lol I'm using a turret in a dropship and yes, we do take those things out first.
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General John Ripper
187.
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:26:00 -
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Your wall of text made me go blind. I am forwarding you my lasik eye surgery bill. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
307
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:40:00 -
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Nosaj Enyaw wrote: Read it a little slower. Lol I'm using a turret in a dropship and yes, we do take those things out first.
Lol, if you roll around in a turret, then you aren't a career sniper. You are Dropship Crew lol. And if you tell me you can snipe from a moving dropship with a SR. I'll just leave that comment alone. |
Nosaj Enyaw
XERCORE
E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.14 22:19:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Nosaj Enyaw wrote: Read it a little slower. Lol I'm using a turret in a dropship and yes, we do take those things out first.
Lol, if you roll around in a turret, then you aren't a career sniper. You are Dropship Crew lol. And if you tell me you can snipe from a moving dropship with a SR. I'll just leave that comment alone.
Like I said, I got into some other skills to be of more help to my squad. You should see the places a good dropship pilot can put a sniper, high and out of sight.Lol In return sometimes they ask me to man a turret, it's called team work.
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DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Heretic Initiative
253
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Posted - 2013.05.15 20:01:00 -
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I just hate it when they are on my team, they seem useless. Not enough of them are good enough to be of help. When I am facing them I am happy; I know it is going to be an easy game. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.16 14:02:00 -
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I recently inspired a ton of Sniper hate... I was in a match, with my brand new sniper character, and I'm sitting at the hills behind Objective C. The entire enemy team was full of morons (Probably not a nice word, as I still haven't moved that character out of 'Academy' level...), and they would keep heading for C. One guy tried to take A, but I headshotted him while hacking, and then they preceded to run in straight lines towards my covered Objective. A couple were smart and stayed over at B (out of Militia Sniper Range), but I used my TAC-SR to kill them. :P
Ended up with around 13 kills, 0 deaths. It was just hilarious sometimes, I actually invited my brother to watch me, because they would start running in a zig-zag, so I couldn't get them, but then they'd bring their noob side out, and just crouch for no reason in the middle of the open. :P
They also kept throwing anti-snipers at me but after headshotting each one while they were aiming, I ran out of ammo. This is the only time I got hit, while I was resupplying at a supply depot. They STILL couldn't kill me with the 214 damage round they shot at my foot (They could only see my foot. They were at B, and on the other side of the supply depot...), but then I just switched builds to speed up the reload process, went back to my shelf, and got my next 3 kills. :D
EDIT: Also, they game before that, I got about 21 kills, (forgot number of deaths, but I used the assault for a while, so probably 4 or 5), ad was in first place. Ended with a little more than 1400 WP in my pocket. Look at the stats for the guy in second place:
K/D: 8/6
WP: 600
I win. >:D |
Jay Westen
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2013.05.16 17:24:00 -
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I see these posts a lot. I never really understood why so much hate for snipers. I started dust as a sniper, I talked to some other 'career sniper' after playing since closed beta up till uprising release as a sniper I have to say, 90% of 'snipers' suck. Most don't move from their original hide and if they get several kills from it tend to run right back after they're killed, or are to busy scoped in to realize they just got shot. And rarely you see a sniper in the top spot in a match. Setting weak counter sniper role easily takes care of red liners. I do agree people who redline don't deserve the moniker of sniper. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.05.16 20:38:00 -
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If it conunties to **** protos off ill continue to use my charge sniper as a please |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
56
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:43:00 -
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Jay Westen wrote:I see these posts a lot. I never really understood why so much hate for snipers. I started dust as a sniper, I talked to some other 'career sniper' after playing since closed beta up till uprising release as a sniper I have to say, 90% of 'snipers' suck. Most don't move from their original hide and if they get several kills from it tend to run right back after they're killed, or are to busy scoped in to realize they just got shot. And rarely you see a sniper in the top spot in a match. Setting weak counter sniper role easily takes care of red liners. I do agree people who redline don't deserve the moniker of sniper.
I do have respect for the few real snipers, my anger is mostly caused by those that you described.
p.s. sorry for the great wall, I don't recall writing this up, as I was drinking and forum ranting. |
Timothy Reaper
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
340
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Posted - 2013.05.17 07:57:00 -
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Please! For the sake of you and your loved ones, don't drink and type! |
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
47
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:31:00 -
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Drunk typing hurts friends. Now, it's a totally different thing when you cat walks on the keyboooagggrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeee
See? Totally different. |
Symbioticforks
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.05.18 11:25:00 -
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You hate snipers because you either don't move around enough or don't pack enough shields and armor to not die in one shot. |
Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
47
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Posted - 2013.05.18 13:13:00 -
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Uh.... Wrong. He hates snipers because they're MLG (A headshot can OHK pretty much anything, I should know), a "useless" part of the team, in the sense that they don't seem like they're doing anything. And even when he does survive, he has lowered health so he doesn't survive the second shot and/or the firefight hes heading to. That's why I think he hates snipers. I wouldn't call the guy a noob. As you can see, he has a lot of FPS history. He's probably better than most who posted here. :P |
jace silencerww
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
Orion Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:02:00 -
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I wonder how much sniper hate I got. lol i know a few people out there that really hate me. some of the mails i got are funny to read but the mail i love to get is the "thank you for saving my butt" ones. i try to take out guys that are trying to flank my fellow blue dots. most never know i saved them. there are a few snipers out there i respect. anyone know the new max range yet it seems to change each match for me. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
151
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:59:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:I wonder how much sniper hate I got. lol i know a few people out there that really hate me. some of the mails i got are funny to read but the mail i love to get is the "thank you for saving my butt" ones. i try to take out guys that are trying to flank my fellow blue dots. most never know i saved them. there are a few snipers out there i respect. anyone know the new max range yet it seems to change each match for me.
ya nobody ever sees the things us snipers do. and nobody ever sees a sniper dual.
good snipers can be the unsung heroes, we are the hidden second man to all those rambo's on the field =/ |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
Unclaimed.
69
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:50:00 -
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Shotguns are my known primary.
I'll snipe if my significant other is at home, getting talkative, and ruining my concentration.
That being said, a crappy sniper can easily get 15 Ks in a match. That's 10% of the clone count in Skirmish. There is value to the position.
The hate is generated from teams with more than 2 snipers, who are now unable to guard checkpoints or sufficiently stack up against the opposition's infantry.
The hate for redline whores: I understand the need for a redline. I prefer it to invisible walls. But, the should be a timer. Each clone should be allowed 1 minute in the red per spawn.
Turrets are fun, as long as they're not on a DS. And easy WPs if you get one that's well placed. Called in a red HAV? Dead - before the RDV could even drop it.
If I know we have multiple snipers out and I get sniped by the same guy, same spot, repeatedly, you will receive a well-deserved FU over the comms. |
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