Wait till the update.

I introduce you to the wonderous thing know as cover, which allows you to get close to people without taking damage. And the scramble rifle has improved effectiveness against shields and reduced effectiveness against armour, while the AR does equal damage to both

I feel deficient. Sadly, I don't spend all day looking for things to QQ about. I must be doing something wrong.

There are some armor plates that have no speed penalty but less HP.

Pretty sure that's what was said - is coming in uprising.

But wait, the scrambler rifle has 35 damage and 750RPM, while the duvolle AR has 34.1 damage and 750RPM.

Isn't the scrambler rifle an anti shields weapon while the AR is a hybrid. Meaning SR will burn through shields and slow down against armor, while the AR does the same to both shields and armor.

I introduce you to the wonderous thing know as cover, which allows you to get close to people without taking damage. And the scramble rifle has improved effectiveness against shields and reduced effectiveness against armour, while the AR does equal damage to both

I honestly believe that the speed reduction for armor plates needs to be looked at, and possibly removed, if shield tanking doesn't make you an easier target to hit. A shield scout should have the hitbox of a heavy suit with enough extenders equipped to it, if an armor heavy has to run at less than 5 m/s with armor mods.

So you are upset that every fitting option will have a weakness?

What weakness do stacked shield extenders confer?

Getting ripped to shreds by scrambler rifles and flux grenades?

So it seems that CCP wants to insert the Gallente philosophy into Dust of "Get in close quick, and deal massive damage".
Which is fine, they should do that.
But it seems we have a recipe for disaster.

Uncle_AWOL has told me that they increased the speed penalty on plates even further (dafuq, 5% more on each level), and from Jenza's video it seems that Gallant base speed is the standard 7.0 m/s, so we can't put on even a single plate to be competitive with any other race.
And the AR range was nerfed, so putting on plates means you can't even reach your enemy.

So you give us the option to tank, and then you take away the Gallente AR range forcing us to stay speedy... Alright.

So I won't put any plates on, I'll just use reps and kinetic catalyzers!
I will use hit and run tactics using my massive damage AR (Gallente Blaster weapons have the highest DPS, trading it for range)!
But wait, the scrambler rifle has 35 damage and 750RPM, while the duvolle AR has 34.1 damage and 750RPM.
Wait what.
And not only that, but the scrambler rifle has better range.

So you take away our option to tank, you force us to go speedy and get in CQC fights, but you make another weapon that has higher DPS?
So with get in close range and get murdered because we have no tank and the SR DPS is higher...
Right.......


Am I missing something CCP?


I'm pointing out a fail of logic here, if you see any reason this is false please tell me.

So you are upset that every fitting option will have a weakness?

Yes but shields are weak to one weapon and one grenade type whereas armour is weak to a few weapons (MD, FG, SnR) one grenade type and have a built in movement penalty making you easier to hit. I think the point is shields have less drawbacks than armour.

Edit shields are weak to 2 weapons and one grenade forgot about LR.

Stamina penalty would be a far better penalty.

Also, I agree with this thread 100% - I'm going to wait until Uprising actually launches, but CCP is repeatedly failing with their Gallente design philosophy, and indeed armour in general. There are the same problems in EvE, for crying out loud! Can't you see this?

Yes, there needs to be some actual racial differences amongst the dropsuits.

For instance, Gallente dropsuits might get a 5% reduction in the speed penalty for Armor Plates or a 5% better Armor Repair Rate per level of some skill.

Similarly, Amarr suits might a bonus to Armor HP or lower fitting costs for Armor Plates for every level of the equivalent skill.

Caldari suits should get better Shield HP or resists per level.

Minmatar suits should get better Shield Recharge Rate or lower Profile penalties for Shield Extenders.