Lets look at shield tanking

Enforcer FalchionSagarisGunnlogi
shield 2k shield 3120 shield 2600
armor 770 armor 1000 armor 1000
shield recharge 22/2 shield recharge 24hp/s shield recharge 22hp/s
CPU 320 CPU 365 CPU 330
PG 1805 PG 1840 PG 1805
high powered 5 high powered 5 high powered 5
low powered 3 low powered 3 low powered 2


Then to add insult to injury the enforcer skill only gives you a 3% damage bonus per lvl where the marauder skill gave you a 4% damage bonus per lvl.

Not to mention that these damage skills do not effect Railgun tankers at all.

To me there is no point to move up into an enforcer tank when the Gunnlogi will get the job done.

Why would anyone want to get into higher teir tanking?

Congratz CCP you have nerfed tanking again

You can see me with Amarr Assault dropsuit with lasers and OP flaylock from now on.

You, me, and half the population of New Eden.

The other half played Eve and know how jumping on the Fit Of The Week turns out in the long run.

If you thought getting solo'd by proto AV was bad now, next build we don't have a tank that can stand up to proto AV

If Enforcers aren't the only top-level tank, and Marauders come back, this might not be as bad as it sounds.

Give Marauders a built-in damage resist instead of the damage buffs on the Enforcers - something like +2% armour resistance per level on the Surya, while the Sagaris gets a 3% increase to shield regen rate. Not exact numbers, just made them up on the spot, but you can see the point.

Also, sounds like a well-fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar will be pretty evenly matched against either Enforcer. Build one tank to be a tank and the other to be a glass cannon, and it's going to make the fights a lot more interesting. Particularly considering people were getting broken damage numbers because of Railgun skills being incorrectly applied, so if that's fixed, they won't be one-shotting and two-shotting well-fitted enemy tanks any more, so you'll have to actually EARN your kills against enemy vehicles.

If Enforcers aren't the only top-level tank, and Marauders come back, this might not be as bad as it sounds.

Give Marauders a built-in damage resist instead of the damage buffs on the Enforcers - something like +2% armour resistance per level on the Surya, while the Sagaris gets a 3% increase to shield regen rate. Not exact numbers, just made them up on the spot, but you can see the point.

they r the only top level tank when this build comes out. there r only 2 tanks the gunnlogi and the new enforcer tank. Which btw will be a terrible glass cannon cause it doesn't have enough cpu to hold 3 damage mods so wats the point. unless u use missiles or want to railgun snipe cause of zoom bonus.

If Enforcers aren't the only top-level tank, and Marauders come back, this might not be as bad as it sounds.

Give Marauders a built-in damage resist instead of the damage buffs on the Enforcers - something like +2% armour resistance per level on the Surya, while the Sagaris gets a 3% increase to shield regen rate. Not exact numbers, just made them up on the spot, but you can see the point.

Also, sounds like a well-fitted Gunnlogi or Madrugar will be pretty evenly matched against either Enforcer. Build one tank to be a tank and the other to be a glass cannon, and it's going to make the fights a lot more interesting. Particularly considering people were getting broken damage numbers because of Railgun skills being incorrectly applied, so if that's fixed, they won't be one-shotting and two-shotting well-fitted enemy tanks any more, so you'll have to actually EARN your kills against enemy vehicles.

Lets look at shield tanking

Enforcer Falchion
shield 2k
armor 770
shield recharge 22/2
CPU 320
PG 1805
high powered 5
low powered 3

Sagaris
shield 3120
armor 1000
shield recharge 24hp/s
CPU 365
PG 1840
high powered 5
low powered 3

Gunnlogi
shield 2600
armor 1000
shield recharge 22hp/s
CPU 330
PG 1805
high powered 5
low powered 2

Then to add insult to injury the enforcer skill only gives you a 3% damage bonus per lvl where the marauder skill gave you a 4% damage bonus per lvl.

Not to mention that these damage skills do not effect Railgun tankers at all.

To me there is no point to move up into an enforcer tank when the Gunnlogi will get the job done.

Why would anyone want to get into higher teir tanking?

Congratz CCP you have nerfed tanking again

Edit: all info was smashed together for some reason

Once Uprising comes out and we all see how tanks are kittened, any other tank drivers want to play World of Tanks with me?

Congratz CCP you have nerfed tanking again

Tanking seems kinda pointless to me now. So why exactly should i again spec into them when its even harder as its allready is?

I don't understand all this tank QQ. I run a Madrugar on my alt, and I find it more than great, plus I haven't even gotten the best mods for it yet, so it will only get better. I am correct that they are not removing the STD tanks?

Last I checked all you tankers were whining that the Surya/Sagaris tanks weren't cost efficient anyways, now you are crying that you don't have them anymore.

I don't understand all this tank QQ. I run a Madrugar on my alt, and I find it more than great, plus I haven't even gotten the best mods for it yet, so it will only get better. I am correct that they are not removing the STD tanks?

Last I checked all you tankers were whining that the Surya/Sagaris tanks weren't cost efficient anyways, now you are crying that you don't have them anymore.