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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:44:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:The new tank is ridiculous, it's everything we don't need or want, I mean, railgun sniping is so ******* ****, a good railgun tanker on the field means no other tank is necessary, and with a buff to railgun tanks in terms of increased zoom and ****, whos gonna go blaster or missile? -_-
Even now it's gotten so repetitive and boring that I've given up tanking in skirmish and just run around ambush as a militia sniper.
Especially when I can kill 2 gunnlogi's with 3 shots within the span of 10 seconds before they even see me. But I bet CCP will look at this post and think "Oh, railguns are OP we need to nerf the damage on those" and then there's no role at all for tanks. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:48:00 -
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Ninjanomyx wrote:BOZ MR wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I don't think they'll be coming back. They were an upgrade of the madrugar/gunnlogi without any sacrifices nor role. If you have noticed CCP is categorizing vehicles by role/class. Look at dropships for example. We got the assault one great, but it's not an obvious upgrade from the basic dropship. Less HP and flight than the STD one. What about the new scout LAVs. No one is talking about those I wonder why. Less HP than STD but higher speed I believe, and other advantages/disadvantages. We have this for now and maybe in the future we will see upgrades of these vehicles roles like the dropsuits (ADV, PRO). Do you have any sacifices when you go through Assault-B to Proto? People can be , i dont know what to tell you , sometimes. I love "Slow People". They make the world smile at them while they Middle Fingerbang your Goldfish :P
Ignorance is a bliss. |
Mortedeamor
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:57:00 -
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so ******* stupid of ccp we all saw this coming dust 514 will have no tankers at this rate and the game will fail |
Mortedeamor
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:03:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:You know, I really like you tankers, I really do. If you look up my past posts you'll see that I've been against your nerfing since day one. Fortunately, we share a common enemy: These AR CoD casuals are going to be the death of Dust. But there's a way to beat them; Since they think HAV are weaker now, they're not going to spec into AV, forgetting that you're a threat. If you want to beat them, beat them on the battlefield. Full armor, guns blazing, and nothing left but a river of their tears as they cry to the forums because they lost to your now toilet paper thin tanks.
or better yet how about we all rail snipe dust 514 to death they would regret this then build a long range absurdly long rang rail sniper death machine invisible one hit kills will rain throughout dust 514 and we will be the isk grinding machine ccp is trying to turn us into to drain eve those c.o.d ar bitches whine now what will they do when every tanker who refuses to give up tanking altogether become rail snipers and they are having death rained on the from heights that they cannot reach :) how long will it be before they are screaming for ccp to nurf us another ******* way im sick of you and your ****** vehicles ccp |
Mortedeamor
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:07:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:The new tank is ridiculous, it's everything we don't need or want, I mean, railgun sniping is so ******* ****, a good railgun tanker on the field means no other tank is necessary, and with a buff to railgun tanks in terms of increased zoom and ****, whos gonna go blaster or missile? -_- Even now it's gotten so repetitive and boring that I've given up tanking in skirmish and just run around ambush as a militia sniper. Especially when I can kill 2 gunnlogi's with 3 shots within the span of 10 seconds before they even see me. But I bet CCP will look at this post and think "Oh, railguns are OP we need to nerf the damage on those" and then there's no role at all for tanks.
and then they nurf rail and then what dust 514 has no heavy vehicles anymore lol ccp needs to learn to distinguish between actual gamers who know what they are talking about and have been playing this game for a long time and little c.o.d bitches who pick up this game get raped by a proto tank and then hop on the forums and start crying whatever perspective they based the av hav balance in this game on it was ******* pathetic |
Charlotte O'Dell
Faabulous
202
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:30:00 -
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That's it. After may 6, tankers will no longer kill eachother. From that point on, we will only shoot the AR cod bois who forced us into the hills with our railguns. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
EoN.
1120
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:31:00 -
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Signed. I like blowing up Sigaris and Suryas. Please don't take that pleasure away from me  |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
891
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:35:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Signed. I like blowing up Sigaris and Suryas. Please don't take that pleasure away from me
We like you blowing us up too :( Now we'll never come face to face because we'll be in the mountains away from you
*sobs* |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
369
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:37:00 -
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We need them back
Give us another slot and better stats with more hp, we still dont have prototype tanks yet |
Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
130
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:39:00 -
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Every prerelease QQ thread just creates more evidence that certain people are melodramatic tear production facilities.
I get that after the triple SP comedown you're done playing until the 6th, but let's try to not spend the entire time leading up to that point gumming up the forum with pre-emptive whining based on incomplete information and zero hours of playtime. |
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Mortedeamor
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 11:47:00 -
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i agree char we should just all convert to that yummy rail sniper fit with the enhanced zoom hand harvest souls from the hieghts until ccp fixes em  |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
823
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Posted - 2013.05.02 17:27:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:0 Try Harder wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Yup, most of us don't like the +damage skills and would rather see skills that like reduce heat builds and the sorts. Why? The forge gun has high damage already, it would be stupid to let a forge gun do more damage, no? All the HAVs (may) have atm is damage, why do you want to take that away too? >.> becuz ccp only cares what the cod bois want. cod bois win.
Speaking of cod, they only gone and developed ANOTHER one lol 'cod ghosts' or something like that.
Same ol crap, same ol engine, different scenario. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
164
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:06:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Ninjanomyx wrote:BOZ MR wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I don't think they'll be coming back. They were an upgrade of the madrugar/gunnlogi without any sacrifices nor role. If you have noticed CCP is categorizing vehicles by role/class. Look at dropships for example. We got the assault one great, but it's not an obvious upgrade from the basic dropship. Less HP and flight than the STD one. What about the new scout LAVs. No one is talking about those I wonder why. Less HP than STD but higher speed I believe, and other advantages/disadvantages. We have this for now and maybe in the future we will see upgrades of these vehicles roles like the dropsuits (ADV, PRO). Do you have any sacifices when you go through Assault-B to Proto? People can be , i dont know what to tell you , sometimes. I love "Slow People". They make the world smile at them while they Middle Fingerbang your Goldfish :P Ignorance is a bliss.
Ahem they were the only vehicles that were proto. Dropships and LAVs were "logistics" without a significant improvement over STD ones. CCP decided to the same with tanks. Assault dropship doesn't have omg 3500 HP 6 high slots.
It's the truth that you guys don't want to see. Why isn't everyone petitioning to bring proto dropships/LAVs with signinficant improvements on stats? Because they cant go 30-0?????But this isn't only happening to vehicles, proto dropsuits now cost much more SP and not everyone will be able to unlock them at Uprising. Pretty much must be a carebear move from CCP for the newbies.
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slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
596
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:11:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build.
CPM should only be focusing on getting a player elected counsel going, Pls don't mess with HAV's till an actual vehicle guy is on the CPM, 0tryharder or Caeli would be a great vehicle CPM guy. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
EoN.
1138
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:12:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build. CPM should only be focusing on getting a player elected counsel going, Pls don't mess with HAV's till an actual vehicle guy is on the CPM, 0tryharder or Caeli would be a great vehicle CPM guy.
Amen! +1 |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:34:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:CCP totally removed an area of gameplay. Seriously. Just remove vehicles altogether at this point. This also removes any reason to have AV because NOBODY is going to use tanks, now.
I've already created two threads for that. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1332
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:45:00 -
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Hmm tanks with the HP of dropships, dropships which cost as much(if not more in some cases) as tanks. It's like CCP is trying to do break vehicles, rather than just do it by accident. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:10:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build. CPM should only be focusing on getting a player elected counsel going, Pls don't mess with HAV's till an actual vehicle guy is on the CPM, 0tryharder or Caeli would be a great vehicle CPM guy.
Maybe they can switch roles with Iron becoming not CPM , regular player instead. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
299
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:09:00 -
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Caeli and slap26 are clearly better than I.
I should not even be considered >.> |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
613
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:12:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Caeli and slap26 are clearly better than I.
I should not even be considered >.>
I'm a bad PR guy, you guys are both very longwinded and detailed in your posts so either of you would be a good pick.
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1308
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:13:00 -
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Hooray so i assume the enforcer HAV's can now 1 shot each other. And they benefit from sniping. Yes exactly what we didnt needed. CCP's stupidity at its best. |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
147
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:16:00 -
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How would you feel if in uprising you got these new glass cannon tanks and a different version that had the opposite, lower damage but higher HP they could possibly balance each other. A glass cannon is balanced by it being able to wreak havok but is very risky. A higher health lowered dam would be less risky but have less capacity for violence more support.
Yay or nay? |
BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
237
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:17:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:How would you feel if in uprising you got these new glass cannon tanks and a different version that had the opposite, lower damage but higher HP they could possibly balance each other. A glass cannon is balanced by it being able to wreak havok but is very risky. A higher health lowered dam would be less risky but have less capacity for violence more support.
Yay or nay?
Yay cause then we'd have fun tank battles and could support the infantry. |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
149
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:20:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:How would you feel if in uprising you got these new glass cannon tanks and a different version that had the opposite, lower damage but higher HP they could possibly balance each other. A glass cannon is balanced by it being able to wreak havok but is very risky. A higher health lowered dam would be less risky but have less capacity for violence more support.
Yay or nay? Yay cause then we'd have fun tank battles and could support the infantry.
EDIT it posted quote but not what I put for some reason.
Anyway 2 posts that make sense this month I am on fire lol.
But my point is why not give up bringing back the old HAV's some people will just dismiss that due to hate for tankers. However start an idea of bringing in a set of tanks opposite to these new glass cannons stating their strengths and weaknesses so people dont just dismiss it immediatley. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
299
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:48:00 -
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oops :> |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3800
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Posted - 2013.05.02 21:49:00 -
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slap26 wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build. CPM should only be focusing on getting a player elected counsel going, Pls don't mess with HAV's till an actual vehicle guy is on the CPM, 0tryharder or Caeli would be a great vehicle CPM guy.
Uprising is in 4 days so there are important time critical issues to get shoved out the door right then and now. Once the expansion launches, ccp recovers from their epic hangovers, and dolan can be found again the talks on government will continue.
Also we're foundation building creating database of things for future CPMs so they can hit the ground running. |
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