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Charlotte O'Dell
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:06:00 -
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Good tankers of New Eden, I am sure that by now, you have heard that our beloved Marauders have been replaced by sorry excuses for 'tanks'. These are glass cannons of the highest authority. They CANNOT take any hits and one will be confined to rail sniping inside the red line. We did not ask to lose our Marauders, which we all loved because of how they inspired fear in the redberries. We did not ask for a glass cannon that had the same stats as their militia cousins. We did not ask to have the most disgusting nerf of tanks since the missile turrets became nerf cannons! WE DID NOT ASK FOR THIS. I urge every tanker to band together and protest this horrendous happening.
To the infantry: I am positive that nothing bothers you more than a rail tank because it cannot be killed. However, let me tell you that NOBODY enjoys rail sniping. We would rather be up there, in your face, or by your side, duking it out, but alas, we cannot because of tanks becoming complete jokes. If you do not want even more rail snipers in Uprising, help us to bring back tanks that can actually give you a chance of both receiving our support, and killing us. Because right now, we are invincible annoyances due to the loss of the Marauders and the introduction of the sickening glass cannons - the Enforcer HAV's.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=71491 (related forum)
http://www.dust514-france.fr/2013/05/videocast-tour-dhorizon-des-menus-duprising.html (visual proof of the b/s in question)
Charlotte O'Dell Your friendly neighborhood tank Sagaris pilot |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:09:00 -
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I give up GG CCP
make a tank series feedback thread on how to bring back good tank fights, CCP makes glass cannon redline tanks to replace the marauders whats even worse.......the armor one gets a bonus to blasters that are close range turrets LOL GG #DoneGivingFeedback |
RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:12:00 -
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At the very least I want the names brought back. The new ones sound goofy and childish. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Faabulous
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:16:00 -
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A blaster tank with increased range and damage but with no armor...sounds legit. |
BatKing Deltor
Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:20:00 -
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Doesn't make all to much sense to be honest, removes variety.
Why remove current and add new? but instead they just add new and adjusted a few stats? ( oh sorry copy and pasted stats )
Just add enforcers to the line of what should really be named ADV tanks appropriately. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
62
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:32:00 -
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w...t....f... I was planning on going tank driver until retirement from this game, but it seems as though the assaults that constantly cry "OP" won this build, I might as well just skill up into the gallente assault class instead or skill up into the fighters that I heard so much about...
thank you assault whiners, you have ruined the game for tank drivers basically and thank you CCP for bending over and being the assaulters' *****es, you should be proud.... |
Charlotte O'Dell
Faabulous
189
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:34:00 -
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CCP totally removed an area of gameplay. Seriously. Just remove vehicles altogether at this point. This also removes any reason to have AV because NOBODY is going to use tanks, now. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
290
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:40:00 -
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You know, I really like you tankers, I really do. If you look up my past posts you'll see that I've been against your nerfing since day one. Fortunately, we share a common enemy: These AR CoD casuals are going to be the death of Dust. But there's a way to beat them; Since they think HAV are weaker now, they're not going to spec into AV, forgetting that you're a threat. If you want to beat them, beat them on the battlefield. Full armor, guns blazing, and nothing left but a river of their tears as they cry to the forums because they lost to your now toilet paper thin tanks. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Faabulous
191
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:42:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:You know, I really like you tankers, I really do. If you look up my past posts you'll see that I've been against your nerfing since day one. Fortunately, we share a common enemy: These AR CoD casuals are going to be the death of Dust. But there's a way to beat them; Since they think HAV are weaker now, they're not going to spec into AV, forgetting that you're a threat. If you want to beat them, beat them on the battlefield. Full armor, guns blazing, and nothing left but a river of their tears as they cry to the forums because they lost to your now toilet paper thin tanks.
I have no doubt that I'll kill them, but it wont be fun for me or for them bc red line sniping is boring. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
297
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:59:00 -
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Hopefully the hulls have something like a 75% reduction to all damage done to them, and they made the mods significantly better.
Alts ftw! And Cosgar, I have heard that CCP has unfortunately nerfd ARs too. Expect to see 90% of the game go scrambler rifle / flaylock pistol after SP refund.
At least I think they made it so that the minimatar logi suit is no longer the best suit in the game, but I have not spent too much time going over every single suit's stats yet. |
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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:03:00 -
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How do you know that is final version of the market? How do you know they "removed" something from it? That was separate tournament build. Why do you judge before game gets officially patched? Too bored? :P |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:04:00 -
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I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:05:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:A blaster tank with increased range and damage but with no armor...sounds legit. missiles (shield side) is also short range now..thanks missile nerf so both have to be pretty close to any damage as well. |
BatKing Deltor
Tank Bros. DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:10:00 -
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I'm expecting human endurance Saturday 5 match for week 4 marauder tank is a collectors item now?
How useful...
That won't disappear along with the other marauder tanks will it since its an event item?
Because then what's the point in giving it as a reward then removing it?
Scratch that... Why is it a reward if they're being removed?
I'd rather have a free falchion now for testing ( lol blows up first few minutes its out to a forge gun... )than a no longer in game saigris that sits in my inventory. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
290
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:11:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Hopefully the hulls have something like a 75% reduction to all damage done to them, and they made the mods significantly better.
Alts ftw! And Cosgar, I have heard that CCP has unfortunately nerfd ARs too. Expect to see 90% of the game go scrambler rifle / flaylock pistol after SP refund.
At least I think they made it so that the minimatar logi suit is no longer the best suit in the game, but I have not spent too much time going over every single suit's stats yet. If tanks are getting hulls, that would be a huge change of events. That's a 3rd HP bar with a **** ton of passive resistance. Supposedly, vehicles are going to get capacitors soonGäó but that could mean as soon as 2015 lol.
Nah, Light Weapon Sharpshooter is gone so ARs, lasers and HMGs can't snipe from 100m+ anymore. It's a step in the right direction.
Scrambler is going to be the effective counter to shields and armor tanking is getting a (weak) buff. It looks like they're going for some kind of weapon balance, but I'll wait until the 6th to pass judgement.
Minmatar logi suit still gets more slots than all the other suits. It's geared for armor tanking which is going to be weird, but with so many slots and blinding speed, it's still going to be the king of versatility. Until someone QQs for a nerf |
Chris F2112
187.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:11:00 -
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Can we at least go until May 6th before we start bringing out petitions? Come on, this is pathetic. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
297
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build. Hopefully you mean Large and Small turrets for vehicles, and not installations which are not in the game yet.
If you do mean the vehicle turrets, and not yet another time sink that does not help the game in any way, it has to be looked at together. IE missiles are close to medium range, blasters are close-ish range, railguns are long. Have to base damage off of those and AV. Turret skills with Marauder are already high. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3790
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:24:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.
I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build. Hopefully you mean Large and Small turrets for vehicles, and not installations which are not in the game yet. If you do mean the vehicle turrets, and not yet another time sink that does not help the game in any way, it has to be looked at together. IE missiles are close to medium range, blasters are close-ish range, railguns are long. Have to base damage off of those and AV. Turret skills with Marauder are already high.
Yup, most of us don't like the +damage skills and would rather see skills that like reduce heat builds and the sorts. |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
297
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Yup, most of us don't like the +damage skills and would rather see skills that like reduce heat builds and the sorts. Why? The forge gun has high damage already, it would be stupid to let a forge gun do more damage, no? All the HAVs (may) have atm is damage, why do you want to take that away too? >.> |
Charlotte O'Dell
Faabulous
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:43:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Yup, most of us don't like the +damage skills and would rather see skills that like reduce heat builds and the sorts. Why? The forge gun has high damage already, it would be stupid to let a forge gun do more damage, no? All the HAVs (may) have atm is damage, why do you want to take that away too? >.>
becuz ccp only cares what the cod bois want. cod bois win. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:45:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:0 Try Harder wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Yup, most of us don't like the +damage skills and would rather see skills that like reduce heat builds and the sorts. Why? The forge gun has high damage already, it would be stupid to let a forge gun do more damage, no? All the HAVs (may) have atm is damage, why do you want to take that away too? >.> becuz ccp only cares what the cod bois want. cod bois win. They haven't won yet, but they have the advantage.
(for some reason) |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
298
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:32:00 -
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Problem is not enough CoD players. Face it- Black Ops 1 was awesome!
CoD players cry 95% less than those who play dust.
FACT. t(-_-t)
but really, it's not the CoD guys. It's mostly those who came from EVE. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
92
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:38:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:Problem is not enough CoD players. Face it- Black Ops 1 was awesome!
CoD players cry 95% less than those who play dust.
FACT. t(-_-t)
but really, it's not the CoD guys. It's mostly those who came from EVE. I gave up, snipin and lasin from now on. Lowrate do you want to help me to get started? |
0 Try Harder
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
298
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:42:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:I gave up, snipin and lasin from now on. Lol, if I only red line railgun snipe in my HAV, I bet I could get #1 K/DR and keep it ^-^ Then I'd have to make Chick Chicky Boom into a legitimate player 0_0
but really have to wait to make a final decision when the new build comes out. |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:45:00 -
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0 Try Harder wrote:BOZ MR wrote:I gave up, snipin and lasin from now on. Lol, if I only red line railgun snipe in my HAV, I bet I could get #1 K/DR and keep it ^-^ Then I'd have to make Chick Chicky Boom into a legitimate player 0_0 but really have to wait to make a final decision when the new build comes out. I do not want to rail snipe. I ll go regular snipe and wait for jets. I am leaving in 3 months the ps3 altogether so probably will not see the jets. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:22:00 -
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I don't think they'll be coming back. They were an upgrade of the madrugar/gunnlogi without any sacrifices nor role. If you have noticed CCP is categorizing vehicles by role/class. Look at dropships for example. We got the assault one great, but it's not an obvious upgrade from the basic dropship. Less HP and flight than the STD one. What about the new scout LAVs. No one is talking about those I wonder why. Less HP than STD but higher speed I believe, and other advantages/disadvantages. We have this for now and maybe in the future we will see upgrades of these vehicles roles like the dropsuits (ADV, PRO). |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:44:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:I don't think they'll be coming back. They were an upgrade of the madrugar/gunnlogi without any sacrifices nor role. If you have noticed CCP is categorizing vehicles by role/class. Look at dropships for example. We got the assault one great, but it's not an obvious upgrade from the basic dropship. Less HP and flight than the STD one. What about the new scout LAVs. No one is talking about those I wonder why. Less HP than STD but higher speed I believe, and other advantages/disadvantages. We have this for now and maybe in the future we will see upgrades of these vehicles roles like the dropsuits (ADV, PRO). Do you have any sacifices when you go through Assault-B to Proto? People can be , i dont know what to tell you , sometimes. |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
97
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:58:00 -
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Protest... lol... |
Ninjanomyx
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:58:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:I don't think they'll be coming back. They were an upgrade of the madrugar/gunnlogi without any sacrifices nor role. If you have noticed CCP is categorizing vehicles by role/class. Look at dropships for example. We got the assault one great, but it's not an obvious upgrade from the basic dropship. Less HP and flight than the STD one. What about the new scout LAVs. No one is talking about those I wonder why. Less HP than STD but higher speed I believe, and other advantages/disadvantages. We have this for now and maybe in the future we will see upgrades of these vehicles roles like the dropsuits (ADV, PRO). Do you have any sacifices when you go through Assault-B to Proto? People can be , i dont know what to tell you , sometimes.
I love "Slow People". They make the world smile at them while they Middle Fingerbang your Goldfish :P |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
887
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:18:00 -
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People saying "Don't petition til the build is out", you're idiots. We've seen the stats, CCP can tweak them, we tell them their new "tanks" are jokes and maybe they'll sort it out and actually make it right, instead of sitting and waiting hoping they'll figure it out themselves (Which, they can't seem to do at all.)
The new tank is ridiculous, it's everything we don't need or want, I mean, railgun sniping is so ******* ****, a good railgun tanker on the field means no other tank is necessary, and with a buff to railgun tanks in terms of increased zoom and ****, whos gonna go blaster or missile? -_- |
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