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Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:33:00 -
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Imperial Scrambler Rifle CPU 92 PG 20 Damage 71.5 RoF 750 clip 45 max ammo 225 reload time 2.5 heat build up/s 60 cooldown 6s seize duration 5s feedback damage 50 charge up time 2s
Allotek plasma cannon CPU115 Direct Damage 1155 Splash Damage 313.5 blast radius 3.5m charge up 0.6s clip 1 max ammo 9 reload 3.5s
Core flaylock pistol CPU 45 PG 2 direct damage 239.8 splash damage 214.5 blast radius 2m clip 3 max ammo 21 reload 2.5s
Enforcer Falchion shield 2k armor 770 shield recharge 22/2 CPU 320 PG 1805 high powered 5 large turret 1 low powered 3 small turret 2
enforcer vayu shield 690 armor 2230 shield recharge 8/s CPU 210 PG 2490 high powered 3 large turret 1 low powered 5 small turret 2
CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rilfe CPU-48 PG-12 Damage-34.1 RoF-750 Accuracy-57.7 Clip-72
Scout mk.0 pg 60kW cpu 230gF shield-100 armor-70 sheild recharge-40hp/s delay-4s depelted delay-8s movement-5.7 sprint-7.9 sprint duration-20s stam-200 recover-18/s 1 equipment 3 infantry high powered 1 grenade 2 low powered 1 sidearm 1 light
Scout gk.0 PG-60 CPU-250 shield-70 armor-130 shield recharge rate-40hp/s shield racharge delay-4s shield depleted recharge delay-8s movement speed-5.5 sprint speed-7.6 sprint duration-20s stamina-200 stamina recovery rate-18/s infantry small capacity grenade-1 infantry high powered-1 infantry equipment-1 infantry low-powered-4 infantry sidearm weapon-1 infantry light-1
Assualt ak.0 PG 70 CPU 350 Shield 180 Armor 180 shield recharge rate 20hp/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 4.8 sprint speed 6.7 sprint duration 20s stamina 200 stamina recovery rate 20/s infantry small capcity grenade 1 infantry high powered 3 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry ligh 1
Assualt ck.0 PG 60 CPU 300 shield 210 armor 120 shield recharge rate 25/s shield recharge delay 5s shield recharge delay 8s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 15s stamina 150 stamina recovery rate 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 4 inantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assualt gk.0 PG 60 CPU 300 shield 120 armor 210 shield recharge rate 20/s shield recharge delay 7s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 15s stamina 150 stamina recover rate 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 3 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 4 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault mk.0 PG 64 CPU 320 Shield 150 armor 135 shield recharge rate 12/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s armor repair rate 1/s movement speed 5.3 sprint speed 7.4 sprint duration 17.5 stamina 175 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 5 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 2 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Logistics ak.0 PG 66 CPU 390 shield 120 armor 180 shield recharge rate 17/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depelted recharge delay 5s movement speed 4.5 sprint speed 6.4 sprint duration 14s stamina 140 stamina recovery rate 15s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 3 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Logistics ck.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 180 armor 90 shield recharge rate 20/s shield recharge delay 4s shield depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 11.5 stamina 115 stamina recovery rate 12/s infantry high powered 5 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry 3 infantry low powered 4 infantry light 1
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
Logistics mk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 150 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 12s stamina 120 stamina recovery rate 12/s infantry high powered 4 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 4 infantry light 1
Sentinel ak.0 PG 54 CPU 270 shield 405 armor 405 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 7s depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 3.6 sprint speed 5.1 sprint duration 12.5s stamina 125 stamina recovery 15/s infantry high powered 1 infantry large grenade 1 infantry sidearm 1 infantry low powered 4 infantry heavy 1
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
216
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:34:00 -
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stop reminding me how terrible the tanks are. :(
but good stuff. :D. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
34
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:36:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:stop reminding me how terrible the tanks are. :(
but good stuff. :D.
the scanner tools even popped up. but damn i was tired of typing. Anyway yea those enforcers blow hardcore but the plasma cannon looks a little.... weird? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1194
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:37:00 -
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*Looks at plasma cannon* And the Falylock is OP? |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
1071
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:41:00 -
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the plasma cannon seems really hard to use I can't figure it out so it shoots an invisible line that then your shot follows?
I've seen people shoot the thing 3-4 times without losing the clip, whats going on in these cases? |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
129
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:45:00 -
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Thanks for this. I assume the 71.5 damage for the Imperial Scrambler Rifle is the charged damage? Because lol, that much damage at 750 rpm.
It's also nice to see that some infantry have 5 slots in one section - like the Gallente logistics, with 5 lows. I can't help but wonder about the base HP values though. If armour is intended to be higher buffer, why isn't the base HP higher? Unless there are significant armour buffs, then the ck0 > the gk0. The ak0 is weird.
Also, I thought amarr were dedicated armour tankers? They seem to also be sacrificing slots for increased fitting room - fitting mods are generally used for this purpose, CCP. The amarr logistics also seems to be lacking somewhat, compared to the caldari one which can fit 5 (!) complex shield extenders or the gallente one, which has 5 lows for armour tanking - though it remains to be seen if armour will actually be useful. Amarr logistics does have a sidearm though... |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
35
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:45:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:the plasma cannon seems really hard to use I can't figure it out so it shoots an invisible line that then your shot follows?
I've seen people shoot the thing 3-4 times without losing the clip, whats going on in these cases?
hellvaiknow *shrug*. probably just a different variation. less blast radius/splash DMG but quicker charge and more clips is what i would expect. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
35
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:48:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Thanks for this. I assume the 71.5 damage for the Imperial Scrambler Rifle is the charged damage? Because lol, that much damage at 750 rpm.
It's also nice to see that some infantry have 5 slots in one section - like the Gallente logistics, with 5 lows. I can't help but wonder about the base HP values though. If armour is intended to be higher buffer, why isn't the base HP higher? Unless there are significant armour buffs, then the ck0 > the gk0. The ak0 is weird.
Also, I thought amarr were dedicated armour tankers? They seem to also be sacrificing slots for increased fitting room - fitting mods are generally used for this purpose, CCP. The amarr logistics also seems to be lacking somewhat, compared to the caldari one which can fit 5 (!) complex shield extenders or the gallente one, which has 5 lows for armour tanking - though it remains to be seen if armour will actually be useful. Amarr logistics does have a sidearm though...
EDIT: Bear in mind the plasma cannon is only single shot, guys, and it takes up a proper slot as opposed to the flaylock which takes a sidearm and has multiple shots in the clip.
you missed how the logistics mk.0 has a built in armor repair of 1/s. imagine the possiblities *_* |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:52:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The amarr logistics also seems to be lacking somewhat, compared to the caldari one which can fit 5 (!) complex shield extenders or the gallente one, which has 5 lows for armour tanking - though it remains to be seen if armour will actually be useful. Amarr logistics does have a sidearm though...
Agree'd. That side arm and 30 EHP hardly seems worth losing 3 slots and a piece of equipment. At least give them 1 more high or low slot, low slot makes more sense since they're Amarr. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1326
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:53:00 -
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Amarr Assault for me. Unless the minmatar Scout is pretty damn enticing. |
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
218
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:54:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Amarr Assault for me. Unless the minmatar Scout is pretty damn enticing. comprimise minmatar assault. :D |
Gridboss
BetaMax. CRONOS.
192
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:59:00 -
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Scrambler rifle has heat build up - the more you charge it, the more it heats up.
Enforcer tanks have a hull bonus to damage and zoom levels. They're meant to be long tank, high damage, lower health tanks.
Plasma cannon reloading thing is a bug. Should be fixed for release (I hope)
Also, the Logistics suits have 1armour hp/second per level of Logistics. (for a max of 5) |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:06:00 -
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Gridboss wrote: Also, the Logistics suits have 1armour hp/second per level of Logistics. (for a max of 5)
Does that stack for each race?
Like if I have all the logi suits for each race to level 5, do I get 20HP/S? the description doesn't make it sound exclusive to just that race's suit. |
IRON PATRIOT 1
Universal Allies Inc.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:16:00 -
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This sucks they decreased the shields of the ck.0 to 210 instead of 225, and why does that damn Imperial Scrambler Rifle do so much damage. They just said **** the Caldari on this build. THIS SUCKS!!! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:23:00 -
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Logi maths! (assuming passive skills have stayed the same):
Amarr: 375 EHP, 3 H slots, 3 L slots, and 3 equipment, only one that gets a sidearm Minmatar: 300 EHP, 4 H slots, 4 L slots, and 4 equipment Caldari: 337.5 EHP, 5 H slots, 3 L slots, and 3 Equipment Gallenete 337.5 EHP, 3 H slots, 5 L slots, 4 equipment (probably so that it can have something over the Caldari version)
I think it's pretty obvious that the Amarr get the short end of the stick here, just 1 Complex Shield extender would pretty much bring the Minmatar suit to it's base EHP. It does get a sideweapon, but then the Minmatar suit gets 1 more low and equipment slot as well, not to mention that it's the slowest of the bunch.
CCP, why you hate Amarr?
I think it should be 1 sidearm = 1 equipment, so the Amaar suit should be given 1 more L slot. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:25:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:This sucks they decreased the shields of the assault ck.0 to 210 instead of 225, and why does that damn Imperial Scrambler Rifle do so much damage. They just said **** the Caldari on this build. THIS SUCKS!!!
They also took away one of its equipment slots bull**** I'm going with the logistics ck.o. Why did they cut it's HP? Because it's pretty much the type-II, which completely outclassed the type-1 variant, and was somewhat OP.
And that rifle is the charged version, the assault version is the one we normally see:
CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rilfe CPU-48 PG-12 Damage-34.1 RoF-750 Accuracy-57.7 Clip-72 |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.02 00:27:00 -
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Bump, cause this shouldn't be on the 2nd page! |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
36
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Posted - 2013.05.02 00:46:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Bump, cause this shouldn't be on the 2nd page!
it's kinda saddning that it didn't get past 2 pages in discussion. Thanks for the bump |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
283
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Posted - 2013.05.02 00:56:00 -
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Looks like I'm sticking with Minmatar logi again. So much speed and versatility is too hard to ignore. Still kind of sucks that the Amarr get a sidearm though. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
237
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Posted - 2013.05.02 01:29:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Looks like I'm sticking with Minmatar logi again. So much speed and versatility is too hard to ignore. Still kind of sucks that the Amarr get a sidearm though.
Its a toss up between Min and Gal for me honestly. |
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Zarr Du'Kar
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
23
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Posted - 2013.05.02 01:32:00 -
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Can I get a clarification on the logistics Caldari and gallente dropsuit?
5 high and 4 low slots for Caldari? And 3 high and 5 low slots for gallente?
Is the Caldari one right? Or is that supposed to be 3 low slots instead of 4
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1195
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Posted - 2013.05.02 01:34:00 -
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Zarr Du'Kar wrote:Can I get a clarification on the logistics Caldari and gallente dropsuit?
5 high and 4 low slots for Caldari? And 3 high and 5 low slots for gallente?
Is the Caldari one right? Or is that supposed to be 3 low slots instead of 4
3 low, Caldari also gets 3 less equipment slots instead of 4. |
Zarr Du'Kar
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
23
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Posted - 2013.05.02 01:40:00 -
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Seems Caldari will start with 3 high and 1 low on std the. 4 high and 2 low on adv then. And vice versa for gallente |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
284
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Posted - 2013.05.02 01:44:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Cosgar wrote:Looks like I'm sticking with Minmatar logi again. So much speed and versatility is too hard to ignore. Still kind of sucks that the Amarr get a sidearm though. Its a toss up between Min and Gal for me honestly. Minmatar are usually the but of everyone's jokes in EVE, but their gear is considered good all around. Trust in the rust. |
IRON PATRIOT 1
Universal Allies Inc.
4
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Posted - 2013.05.02 02:56:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Zarr Du'Kar wrote:Can I get a clarification on the logistics Caldari and gallente dropsuit?
5 high and 4 low slots for Caldari? And 3 high and 5 low slots for gallente?
Is the Caldari one right? Or is that supposed to be 3 low slots instead of 4
3 low, Caldari also gets 3 less equipment slots instead of 4.
No thats wrong everything you see about the Caldari and Gallente logi suits are correct except for there hp, log gko Sheilds 90 Armor 100, and Caldari is just the opposite.
Gallente is 3 high and 5 low, Caldari are 5 high and 4 low.
Edit: Sorry the hp's are correct. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Faabulous
187
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:21:00 -
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Plasma cannon 2-shots an enforcer. Yay for redline sniping until death due us part. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
61
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:02:00 -
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are there any stats for the xk.1 suits or just the xk.0's? |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
37
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:07:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:are there any stats for the xk.1 suits or just the xk.0's?
from hat i saw there were no xk.1s at all just xk.0s. no it went STD/STDneo ADV/ADVneo PRO/PROneo |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
61
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:19:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:2100 Angels wrote:are there any stats for the xk.1 suits or just the xk.0's? from hat i saw there were no xk.1s at all just xk.0s. no it went STD/STDneo ADV/ADVneo PRO/PROneo
what about the basic x.k.1's? have they been removed? |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:22:00 -
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I'm going to make a spreadsheet out of this... |
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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
502
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:58:00 -
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Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
131
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:14:00 -
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Ferroscale plates might help with armour tanking scouts, but unless it really does, the gallente scout is going to be outclassed. Again. The sentinel suit is kind of interesting, but I'll wait for the tanking changes before judging that. Looking at the flaylock - that splash damage, wtf? I'm not an HAV user but it looks like they got screwed over here. The plasma cannon will splat an enforcer, and forge guns are actually significantly more effective than plasma cannons. That's kind of odd, but at least the plasma cannon doesn't need a heavy suit.
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:53:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?!
That can't be right... |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
111
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:25:00 -
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wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2658
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:44:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? ...and has half the radius and a lot less range and only 3 shots before reloading. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
111
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:52:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Jack McReady wrote:wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? ...and has half the radius and a lot less range and only 3 shots before reloading. but the projectile is faster and safer to use up close due to lower splash. range is fine for a sidearm considering all the other sidearms have similar range but the splash damage is absurd. 2 hits in front of the enemies feet will kill any logi or scout suit, and getting 2 hits with 2 meter splash radius is not hard to do achieve with a fast moving projectile. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
37
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:03:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?! That can't be right...
of course it's not. the stamina is actually 123 lol. 1k stamina is madness.
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:04:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Jack McReady wrote:wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? ...and has half the radius and a lot less range and only 3 shots before reloading. Judging by the name, the stats AND the video from which this info was sourced from, the Flaylock Pistol mentioned in this thread is the prototype weapon version... |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:06:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?! That can't be right... of course it's not. the stamina is actually 123 lol. 1k stamina is madness.
It's actually 125. I went and looked at the video looking for the Flaylock Pistol stats but curiously jumped stright to the part of the logistics suits. lol |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
37
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:22:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?! That can't be right... of course it's not. the stamina is actually 123 lol. 1k stamina is madness. It's actually 125. I went and looked at the video looking for the Flaylock Pistol stats but curiously jumped stright to the part of the logistics suits. lol be a bro and report any mistakes i may have made. i was so damn tired of typing i started to abbreviate. Also if you really want to help post the scout LAVs and scanner tool stats |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
628
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Posted - 2013.05.02 13:59:00 -
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Is the 12hp/s shield recharge for the Minnie Assault accurate? |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:20:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente....
I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here |
Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
65
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:21:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote: Sentinel ak.0 PG 54 CPU 270 shield 405 armor 405 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 7s depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 3.6 sprint speed 5.1 sprint duration 12.5s stamina 125 stamina recovery 15/s infantry high powered 1 infantry large grenade 1 infantry sidearm 1 infantry low powered 4 infantry heavy 1
Honestly I'm just happy to see the heavies got a small health boost and a suit with decent low slots. Hopefully the price came down on them too. Wish we had more slots still but it'll do for now. Also wish we had more PG/CPU. Guess I have to keep waiting for the other heavy suit stats to show up... |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
510
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:27:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout. |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:34:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout.
Its not really nice. we get 85 more sheilds and loose 25 armor. Historically armor suits have been a shame and a waste so hopefully this will work out. I doubt it though, this suit has no chance in hell against 2 milita locus grenades or a massdriver or flaylock sidearm. seems pretty bad to me, they gave the heavy a peice of poop and called it variety. Its so weird they nerfed scouts! were they ever a promblem?? lol i dont get it why are assults so mainstream. Buff them and nerf everything else. rediculas |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:43:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout. Ill probably still do scout however. I'm just not sure which race to pick
But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
186
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:05:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out
Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:07:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. true but i mean for scout. with how fragile that thing is it shouldent be slow |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:12:00 -
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You can go armor - or cant you put a dampener, a couple of speed mods and a hacking module. Or speed and stamina and armor or regulator to reduce shield delay even further. You can also use modules to improve CPU/PG to use better weaps and equipment.
They are many ways to approach it.
The highs are great but how many things can you do other than really stack shields or damage mods (which give diminishing returns) and they are extremely costly resource wise.
I think the Minny got jobbed with just the 2L but I am sure others will see advantages I am not accounting for... other than the great speed - but as I said the Gallente can cover the sprint speed gap. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
511
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:45:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout. Ill probably still do scout however. I'm just not sure which race to pick But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out I was thinkin complex plate with 2 complex kinetic and 1 complex rep lol |
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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative
386
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:49:00 -
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If this is really the case, that base shield depletion delay on those logistics suits is going to be crazy! With the minmatar's 4 highs and 4 lows, you get something with nearly 400 shield that reps to full in <12 seconds. Although, if rechargers do have the max shield penalty then that may not be as good. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
119
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:51:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:If this is really the case, that base shield depletion delay on those logistics suits is going to be crazy! With the minmatar's 4 highs and 4 lows, you get something with nearly 400 shield that reps to full in <12 seconds. Although, if rechargers do have the max shield penalty then that may not be as good. and then a laser or flux hits you and your shield is gone instantly |
Specter RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
65
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:08:00 -
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Man a loss of 2 High slots for my Ak.0 heavy. Wonder how Ak.1 Heavy will be like considering how the shields are for the Ak.0 (If there even is k.1's anymore that is) |
Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
77
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:06:00 -
[54] - Quote
Bacon to the first person to stick it all in a cool spreadsheet! |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:21:00 -
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Specter RND wrote:Man a loss of 2 High slots for my Ak.0 heavy. Wonder how Ak.1 Heavy will be like considering how the shields are for the Ak.0 (If there even is k.1's anymore that is) I don't think there is one. I'm still debating over that. Still I can save some sp now that I don't have to worry about shield mods. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
474
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
Rechargers are not getting a hp penalty, that was a new module that gave faster recharge and penalty to hp. Like the armour plates with speed penalty and the ferroscale plates without speed penalty and smaller hp gain. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
474
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Posted - 2013.05.02 23:16:00 -
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I fixed some typos and added some more profiles from video and Jenza's ( I don't remember how to spell her last name) video.
Imperial Scrambler Rifle CPU 92 PG 20 Damage 71.5 RoF 750 clip 45 max ammo 225 reload time 2.5 heat build up/s 60 cooldown 6s seize duration 5s feedback damage 50 charge up time 2s
Allotek plasma cannon CPU115 Direct Damage 1155 Splash Damage 313.5 blast radius 3.5m charge up 0.6s clip 1 max ammo 9 reload 3.5s
GN-20 specialist flaylock pistol CPU 25 PG 0 direct damage 228.98 splash damage 204.8 blast radius 2m clip 3 max ammo 21 reload 2.5s
Core flaylock pistol CPU 45 PG 2 direct damage 239.8 splash damage 214.5 blast radius 2m clip 3 max ammo 21 reload 2.5s
Enforcer Falchion shield 2k armor 770 shield recharge 22/2 CPU 320 PG 1805 high powered 5 large turret 1 low powered 3 small turret 2
enforcer vayu shield 690 armor 2230 shield recharge 8/s CPU 210 PG 2490 high powered 3 large turret 1 low powered 5 small turret 2
Assault Dropship Incubus shield 700 armor 1700 shield recharge 12/s CPU 191 PG 615 high powered 2 low powered 4 small turret 3
Assault Dropship Python shield 1075 armor 770 shield recharge 23/s CPU 271 PG 470 high powered 4 low powered 2 small turret 3
Scout lav Abron shield 260 armor 950 shield recharge 4.5/s CPU 70 PG 265 high powered 1 low powered 2 small turret 1
CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle CPU-48 PG-12 Damage-34.1 RoF-750 Accuracy-57.7 Clip-72
Proto Assault Scrambler Rifle (didn't write down name) CPU-83 (from memory, may have been 84) PG-11 Damage-35 RoF-750 Accuracy-58.2 Clip-72
Scout mk.0 pg 60kW cpu 230gF shield-100 armor-70 shield recharge-40hp/s delay-4s depleted delay-8s movement-5.7 sprint-7.9 sprint duration-20s stamina-200 recover-18/s 1 equipment 3 infantry high powered 1 grenade 2 low powered 1 sidearm 1 light
Scout gk.0 PG-60 CPU-250 shield-70 armor-130 shield recharge rate-40hp/s shield recharge delay-4s shield depleted recharge delay-8s movement speed-5.5 sprint speed-7.6 sprint duration-20s stamina-200 stamina recovery rate-18/s infantry small capacity grenade-1 infantry high powered-1 infantry equipment-1 infantry low-powered-4 infantry sidearm weapon-1 infantry light-1
Medium frame A/1- PG 49 CPU 245 Shield 180 Armor 180 shield recharge rate 20hp/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 4.8 sprint speed 6.7 sprint duration 20s stamina 200 stamina recovery rate 20/s
Assault ak.0 PG 70 CPU 350 Shield 180 Armor 180 shield recharge rate 20hp/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 4.8 sprint speed 6.7 sprint duration 20s stamina 200 stamina recovery rate 20/s infantry small capacity grenade 1 infantry high powered 3 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault ck.0 PG 60 CPU 300 shield 210 armor 120 shield recharge rate 25/s shield recharge delay 5s shield recharge delay 8s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 15s stamina 150 stamina recovery rate 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 4 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault gk.0 PG 60 CPU 300 shield 120 armor 210 shield recharge rate 20/s shield recharge delay 7s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 15s stamina 150 stamina recover rate 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 3 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 4 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault mk.0 PG 64 CPU 320 Shield 150 armor 135 shield recharge rate 12/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s armor repair rate 1/s movement speed 5.3 sprint speed 7.4 sprint duration 17.5 stamina 175 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 5 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 2 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Logistics ak.0 PG 66 CPU 390 shield 120 armor 180 shield recharge rate 17/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depelted recharge delay 5s movement speed 4.5 sprint speed 6.4 sprint duration 14s stamina 140 stamina recovery rate 15s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 3 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Logistics ck.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 180 armor 90 shield recharge rate 20/s shield recharge delay 4s shield depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 11.5 stamina 115 stamina recovery rate 12/s infantry high powered 5 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry 3 infantry low powered 4 infantry light 1
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
Logistics mk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 150 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 12s stamina 120 stamina recovery rate 12/s infantry high powered 4 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 4 infantry light 1
Sentinel ak.0 PG 54 CPU 270 shield 405 armor 405 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 7s depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 3.6 sprint speed 5.1 sprint ... |
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
83
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:41:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. true but i mean for scout. with how fragile that thing is it shouldent be slow Yeah agree im scout since december and now the gallente scout is reduced to be a hacker, if the map are bigger i ll take this class, sure its not a killer but if you dont take care that much to KDR and more on wins in skirmish he can be really nice, hope the scan system play a better role too |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
319
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
Dat Enforcer suit... |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
97
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Posted - 2013.05.03 09:23:00 -
[60] - Quote
I don't know if someone has already done this or not, but I was bored and made a spreadsheet (of the dropsuits only) for anyone who would like a slightly easier way to compare them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqMshc-A6HVHdGdNcHJkNktJOV9FaUVFMGRZYzI0Qnc&usp=sharing |
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Roy Xkillerz
Red Star. EoN.
2
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Posted - 2013.05.03 10:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
Thanks for posting man. So then I should walking into a amarr assault if I want to start using a scramble rifle. |
General Hornet
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
40
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Posted - 2013.05.03 10:50:00 -
[62] - Quote
Well I know exactly what drop suit I'm speccing into |
Son Down
SamsClub
8
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Posted - 2013.05.03 11:40:00 -
[63] - Quote
Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here
Pfffft. Bad troll, bad. The biggest scrubs from PREVIOUS build went scout for chromosome after it became blatantly obvious there were serious hit detection issues with scouts. Still not fixed to this day. The added fact that you have grown men putting on female unmentionables to their Dust toon simply hammers this home. They're currently broke. The intention was to not have the scout class as scrubby assault toon.
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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.03 12:12:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. true but i mean for scout. with how fragile that thing is it shouldent be slow Yeah agree im scout since december and now the gallente scout is reduced to be a hacker, if the map are bigger i ll take this class, sure its not a killer but if you dont take care that much to KDR and more on wins in skirmish he can be really nice, hope the scan system play a better role too
Aaaaaaand faceplant into a sentinel. Pub yes go farm some wp... PC? no lol |
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