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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
502
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:58:00 -
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Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
131
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:14:00 -
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Ferroscale plates might help with armour tanking scouts, but unless it really does, the gallente scout is going to be outclassed. Again. The sentinel suit is kind of interesting, but I'll wait for the tanking changes before judging that. Looking at the flaylock - that splash damage, wtf? I'm not an HAV user but it looks like they got screwed over here. The plasma cannon will splat an enforcer, and forge guns are actually significantly more effective than plasma cannons. That's kind of odd, but at least the plasma cannon doesn't need a heavy suit.
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:53:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?!
That can't be right... |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
111
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:25:00 -
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wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2658
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:44:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? ...and has half the radius and a lot less range and only 3 shots before reloading. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
111
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Posted - 2013.05.02 08:52:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Jack McReady wrote:wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? ...and has half the radius and a lot less range and only 3 shots before reloading. but the projectile is faster and safer to use up close due to lower splash. range is fine for a sidearm considering all the other sidearms have similar range but the splash damage is absurd. 2 hits in front of the enemies feet will kill any logi or scout suit, and getting 2 hits with 2 meter splash radius is not hard to do achieve with a fast moving projectile. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
37
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:03:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?! That can't be right...
of course it's not. the stamina is actually 123 lol. 1k stamina is madness.
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Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:04:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Jack McReady wrote:wtf is going on with the flaylock pistol? it does as much damage as the regular MD on direct hit and twice as much as the regular MD in splash damage? CCP REALLY? ...and has half the radius and a lot less range and only 3 shots before reloading. Judging by the name, the stats AND the video from which this info was sourced from, the Flaylock Pistol mentioned in this thread is the prototype weapon version... |
Kiso Okami
Militaires Sans Jeux
67
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:06:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?! That can't be right... of course it's not. the stamina is actually 123 lol. 1k stamina is madness.
It's actually 125. I went and looked at the video looking for the Flaylock Pistol stats but curiously jumped stright to the part of the logistics suits. lol |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo Insurance Fraud.
37
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:22:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Nelo Angel0 wrote:
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
1223?! That can't be right... of course it's not. the stamina is actually 123 lol. 1k stamina is madness. It's actually 125. I went and looked at the video looking for the Flaylock Pistol stats but curiously jumped stright to the part of the logistics suits. lol be a bro and report any mistakes i may have made. i was so damn tired of typing i started to abbreviate. Also if you really want to help post the scout LAVs and scanner tool stats |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
628
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Posted - 2013.05.02 13:59:00 -
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Is the 12hp/s shield recharge for the Minnie Assault accurate? |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:20:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente....
I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here |
Tiberion Deci
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
65
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:21:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote: Sentinel ak.0 PG 54 CPU 270 shield 405 armor 405 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 7s depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 3.6 sprint speed 5.1 sprint duration 12.5s stamina 125 stamina recovery 15/s infantry high powered 1 infantry large grenade 1 infantry sidearm 1 infantry low powered 4 infantry heavy 1
Honestly I'm just happy to see the heavies got a small health boost and a suit with decent low slots. Hopefully the price came down on them too. Wish we had more slots still but it'll do for now. Also wish we had more PG/CPU. Guess I have to keep waiting for the other heavy suit stats to show up... |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
510
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:27:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout. |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:34:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout.
Its not really nice. we get 85 more sheilds and loose 25 armor. Historically armor suits have been a shame and a waste so hopefully this will work out. I doubt it though, this suit has no chance in hell against 2 milita locus grenades or a massdriver or flaylock sidearm. seems pretty bad to me, they gave the heavy a peice of poop and called it variety. Its so weird they nerfed scouts! were they ever a promblem?? lol i dont get it why are assults so mainstream. Buff them and nerf everything else. rediculas |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 15:43:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout. Ill probably still do scout however. I'm just not sure which race to pick
But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
186
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:05:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out
Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. |
Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
193
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:07:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. true but i mean for scout. with how fragile that thing is it shouldent be slow |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:12:00 -
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You can go armor - or cant you put a dampener, a couple of speed mods and a hacking module. Or speed and stamina and armor or regulator to reduce shield delay even further. You can also use modules to improve CPU/PG to use better weaps and equipment.
They are many ways to approach it.
The highs are great but how many things can you do other than really stack shields or damage mods (which give diminishing returns) and they are extremely costly resource wise.
I think the Minny got jobbed with just the 2L but I am sure others will see advantages I am not accounting for... other than the great speed - but as I said the Gallente can cover the sprint speed gap. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
511
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:45:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Soo.. Scout proto doesn't have 3 low 3 high 2 equipment anymore..?
Man that sucks... I'd go minmitar scout but... Only 2 lows :(
And I don't like the sound of armor tanking my scout with Gallente.... I wanted to do scout too Marauder :( why would ccp nerf scout no one uses it to start with! Prolly to keep stupid ppl like us from using it. Yeah, afterall, assult is the only class ppl should play. Evident here Yeah... Well at least heavies got a nice buff in health. And 4 low slots are awesome. However I was really looking forward to scout. Ill probably still do scout however. I'm just not sure which race to pick But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out I was thinkin complex plate with 2 complex kinetic and 1 complex rep lol |
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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative
386
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:49:00 -
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If this is really the case, that base shield depletion delay on those logistics suits is going to be crazy! With the minmatar's 4 highs and 4 lows, you get something with nearly 400 shield that reps to full in <12 seconds. Although, if rechargers do have the max shield penalty then that may not be as good. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
119
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:51:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:If this is really the case, that base shield depletion delay on those logistics suits is going to be crazy! With the minmatar's 4 highs and 4 lows, you get something with nearly 400 shield that reps to full in <12 seconds. Although, if rechargers do have the max shield penalty then that may not be as good. and then a laser or flux hits you and your shield is gone instantly |
Specter RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
65
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Posted - 2013.05.02 19:08:00 -
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Man a loss of 2 High slots for my Ak.0 heavy. Wonder how Ak.1 Heavy will be like considering how the shields are for the Ak.0 (If there even is k.1's anymore that is) |
Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
77
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:06:00 -
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Bacon to the first person to stick it all in a cool spreadsheet! |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:21:00 -
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Specter RND wrote:Man a loss of 2 High slots for my Ak.0 heavy. Wonder how Ak.1 Heavy will be like considering how the shields are for the Ak.0 (If there even is k.1's anymore that is) I don't think there is one. I'm still debating over that. Still I can save some sp now that I don't have to worry about shield mods. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
474
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Posted - 2013.05.02 22:27:00 -
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Rechargers are not getting a hp penalty, that was a new module that gave faster recharge and penalty to hp. Like the armour plates with speed penalty and the ferroscale plates without speed penalty and smaller hp gain. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
474
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Posted - 2013.05.02 23:16:00 -
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I fixed some typos and added some more profiles from video and Jenza's ( I don't remember how to spell her last name) video.
Imperial Scrambler Rifle CPU 92 PG 20 Damage 71.5 RoF 750 clip 45 max ammo 225 reload time 2.5 heat build up/s 60 cooldown 6s seize duration 5s feedback damage 50 charge up time 2s
Allotek plasma cannon CPU115 Direct Damage 1155 Splash Damage 313.5 blast radius 3.5m charge up 0.6s clip 1 max ammo 9 reload 3.5s
GN-20 specialist flaylock pistol CPU 25 PG 0 direct damage 228.98 splash damage 204.8 blast radius 2m clip 3 max ammo 21 reload 2.5s
Core flaylock pistol CPU 45 PG 2 direct damage 239.8 splash damage 214.5 blast radius 2m clip 3 max ammo 21 reload 2.5s
Enforcer Falchion shield 2k armor 770 shield recharge 22/2 CPU 320 PG 1805 high powered 5 large turret 1 low powered 3 small turret 2
enforcer vayu shield 690 armor 2230 shield recharge 8/s CPU 210 PG 2490 high powered 3 large turret 1 low powered 5 small turret 2
Assault Dropship Incubus shield 700 armor 1700 shield recharge 12/s CPU 191 PG 615 high powered 2 low powered 4 small turret 3
Assault Dropship Python shield 1075 armor 770 shield recharge 23/s CPU 271 PG 470 high powered 4 low powered 2 small turret 3
Scout lav Abron shield 260 armor 950 shield recharge 4.5/s CPU 70 PG 265 high powered 1 low powered 2 small turret 1
CRD-9 Assault Scrambler Rifle CPU-48 PG-12 Damage-34.1 RoF-750 Accuracy-57.7 Clip-72
Proto Assault Scrambler Rifle (didn't write down name) CPU-83 (from memory, may have been 84) PG-11 Damage-35 RoF-750 Accuracy-58.2 Clip-72
Scout mk.0 pg 60kW cpu 230gF shield-100 armor-70 shield recharge-40hp/s delay-4s depleted delay-8s movement-5.7 sprint-7.9 sprint duration-20s stamina-200 recover-18/s 1 equipment 3 infantry high powered 1 grenade 2 low powered 1 sidearm 1 light
Scout gk.0 PG-60 CPU-250 shield-70 armor-130 shield recharge rate-40hp/s shield recharge delay-4s shield depleted recharge delay-8s movement speed-5.5 sprint speed-7.6 sprint duration-20s stamina-200 stamina recovery rate-18/s infantry small capacity grenade-1 infantry high powered-1 infantry equipment-1 infantry low-powered-4 infantry sidearm weapon-1 infantry light-1
Medium frame A/1- PG 49 CPU 245 Shield 180 Armor 180 shield recharge rate 20hp/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 4.8 sprint speed 6.7 sprint duration 20s stamina 200 stamina recovery rate 20/s
Assault ak.0 PG 70 CPU 350 Shield 180 Armor 180 shield recharge rate 20hp/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 4.8 sprint speed 6.7 sprint duration 20s stamina 200 stamina recovery rate 20/s infantry small capacity grenade 1 infantry high powered 3 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault ck.0 PG 60 CPU 300 shield 210 armor 120 shield recharge rate 25/s shield recharge delay 5s shield recharge delay 8s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 15s stamina 150 stamina recovery rate 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 4 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault gk.0 PG 60 CPU 300 shield 120 armor 210 shield recharge rate 20/s shield recharge delay 7s shield depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 15s stamina 150 stamina recover rate 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 3 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 4 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Assault mk.0 PG 64 CPU 320 Shield 150 armor 135 shield recharge rate 12/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depleted recharge delay 10s armor repair rate 1/s movement speed 5.3 sprint speed 7.4 sprint duration 17.5 stamina 175 15/s infantry small grenade 1 infantry high powered 5 infantry equipment 1 infantry low powered 2 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Logistics ak.0 PG 66 CPU 390 shield 120 armor 180 shield recharge rate 17/s shield recharge delay 6s shield depelted recharge delay 5s movement speed 4.5 sprint speed 6.4 sprint duration 14s stamina 140 stamina recovery rate 15s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 3 infantry low powered 3 infantry sidearm 1 infantry light 1
Logistics ck.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 180 armor 90 shield recharge rate 20/s shield recharge delay 4s shield depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 11.5 stamina 115 stamina recovery rate 12/s infantry high powered 5 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry 3 infantry low powered 4 infantry light 1
Logistics gk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 180 shield recharge rate 15/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement 4.7 sprint 6.6 sprint duration 12.5 stamina 1223 stamina 12/s infantry high powered 3 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 5 infantry light 1
Logistics mk.0 PG 78 CPU 390 shield 90 armor 150 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 6s depleted recharge delay 6s movement speed 5 sprint speed 7 sprint duration 12s stamina 120 stamina recovery rate 12/s infantry high powered 4 infantry medium grenade 1 infantry equipment 4 infantry low powered 4 infantry light 1
Sentinel ak.0 PG 54 CPU 270 shield 405 armor 405 recharge rate 20/s recharge delay 7s depleted recharge delay 10s movement speed 3.6 sprint speed 5.1 sprint ... |
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
83
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:41:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:But yeahh... the new gallente proto scout is bad and ccp should feel bad for making it. 4 lows what are you gona do on a scout throw a dampener and armor plates on? Armor must be tottally redone as we know it to suggest this. 1 high slot on a scout. pfft. mini scout is the only way to go untill caldari scout comes out Remember, new armor plates are coming soon. Once that happens, armor tanking will be ok to use especially on the gallente logistics. true but i mean for scout. with how fragile that thing is it shouldent be slow Yeah agree im scout since december and now the gallente scout is reduced to be a hacker, if the map are bigger i ll take this class, sure its not a killer but if you dont take care that much to KDR and more on wins in skirmish he can be really nice, hope the scan system play a better role too |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
319
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:42:00 -
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Dat Enforcer suit... |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
97
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Posted - 2013.05.03 09:23:00 -
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I don't know if someone has already done this or not, but I was bored and made a spreadsheet (of the dropsuits only) for anyone who would like a slightly easier way to compare them.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqMshc-A6HVHdGdNcHJkNktJOV9FaUVFMGRZYzI0Qnc&usp=sharing |
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