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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:59:00 -
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Sentinel ak.0 Proto: 57,690 ISK
Attributes.
Shield - 405
Armor - 405
Shield recharge rate - 20 HP/s
Shield Recharge delay - 7.0 s
Armor rep. rate - 0 s
Movement Speed - 3.6 m/s
Sprint speed - 5.1 m/s
Sprint Duration - 12.5 s
Stamina - 125
Stamina recovery rate - 15.0 /s
Fitting
Max CPU - 270
Max PG - 54
Infantry High - 1
Infantry Low - 4
Infantry Heavy weapon - 1
Infantry Sidearm Weapon - 1
Source
^ you can see the stats for other stuff there too. I only cared about the heavy suit. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
1318
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:01:00 -
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Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1193
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:03:00 -
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So... they only got like 50 more HP? And aren't any faster? 
Hello Ammar Logi 
But hey, maybe Armor repairers will now be useful for you guys? |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:04:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining?
We didn't have the info tell like 30 minutes ago. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
1318
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:06:00 -
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Hollow M Ling wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining? We didn't have the info tell like 30 minutes ago.
Lol. Even so, it's not nearly as horrible as they're making it out to be. Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
227
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:07:00 -
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Well, I'm excited if those are the legit, actual release numbers.
Particularly if thats the unskilled value on the suit. With skills you should be looking at 1k without mods. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:07:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining?
What idiot wants to run around the place at 0 m/s? Armor is a joke in DUST.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2729
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:08:00 -
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.....
1 high slot?
O.o |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:08:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Hollow M Ling wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining? We didn't have the info tell like 30 minutes ago. Lol. Even so, it's not nearly as horrible as they're making it out to be. Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers.
Who's complaining about the new heavies?????? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:.....
1 high slot?
O.o
Amarr... armor based.
lolarmor |
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BobThe843CakeMan
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
215
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:09:00 -
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3 complex armor reps. 1 complex armor plate. 1 damage mod. nuff said. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1193
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:10:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Hollow M Ling wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining? We didn't have the info tell like 30 minutes ago. Lol. Even so, it's not nearly as horrible as they're making it out to be. Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers.
Yeah... being a scout sucks, but the fact that you think 50 more EHP than they currently have is any good shows just how little you know about heavies. At least now they can stack kinetic catalizers though... that's something
Only 1 high slot though? C'mon CCP, couldn't you at least give them 2? |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
356
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:13:00 -
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cheap isk-wise |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2729
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:14:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers.
Gallente scout has 1 high slot.
Who armor tanks a scout?
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:15:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Hollow M Ling wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining? We didn't have the info tell like 30 minutes ago. Lol. Even so, it's not nearly as horrible as they're making it out to be. Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers. Yeah... being a scout sucks, but the fact that you think 50 more EHP than they currently have is any good shows just how little you know about heavies. At least now they can stack kinetic catalizers though... that's something Only 1 high sloth though? C'mon CCP, couldn't you at least give them 2?
lol +1
I'm just happy we didn't get a suit nerf tbh. We got some extra HP, and a price reduction in suit.
I didn't want the Amarr suit, but w/e. I guess getting all the assault races was the priority since the majority of people use assault.
New heavy suits? Soon...4-6 months. |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
210
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:17:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Hollow M Ling wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Wow. You could get more than 1000 HP just from Armor Plates.
So why are Heavy's still whining? We didn't have the info tell like 30 minutes ago. Lol. Even so, it's not nearly as horrible as they're making it out to be. Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers. Yeah... being a scout sucks, but the fact that you think 50 more EHP than they currently have is any good shows just how little you know about heavies. At least now they can stack kinetic catalizers though... that's something Only 1 high slot though? C'mon CCP, couldn't you at least give them 2?
Apparently many of you didnt notice the most important part. Look again at the cost of the proto suit. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
228
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:17:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:cheap isk-wise
I am currently operating under the assumption thats simply a uniform price for the tournament event.
If thats the actual price then... well damn. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
502
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:18:00 -
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That's before skills right? |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
210
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:20:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Jin Robot wrote:cheap isk-wise I am currently operating under the assumption thats simply a uniform price for the tournament event. If thats the actual price then... well damn.
They said that they were balancing out the costs of the proto suits to be consistent with other frames. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:26:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:That's before skills right?
Yea, base suit stats. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1193
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:27:00 -
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Kitten Commander wrote:
Apparently many of you didnt notice the most important part. Look again at the cost of the proto suit.
That's nice, but CCP said that they didn't intend to balance through prices anyway, so they shouldn't be considered for this. Though I'm sure heavies appreciate the new prices.
Anyway
Before:
VK0 937.5 EHP (with skills), 3.6 MS, 5.1 SS
VK1 930 EHP, 3.9 MS, 5.5 SS
Now:
AK1 1012.5 EHP, 3.6 MS, 5.1SS
So 75 more HP. Considering scrambler rifles and flaylocks... that's nothing. They could have at least given them VK1 speed  Yeah, you could always stack plates, but that's only good if you have a logi, and you will be slow as ****. Armor tanking in this game simply has too many drawbacks, and now CCP has forced it into Armor tanking even more. More repairers and kinetic catalyzers are good though, so IDK. We'll have to see how it all works out. Good luck fatties.
Edit: it's pretty much like having a permanent shield extender on a high slot. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
228
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:29:00 -
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So here's a question.
What's the basic heavy proto suit look like?
Because that's the sentinel build, yea? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:32:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:So here's a question.
What's the basic heavy proto suit look like?
Because that's the sentinel build, yea?
don't know... didn't show in the vid.
The advanced had the same stats HP wise, less CPU / PGU, 3 low slots.
I'm guessing the basic has 2 low slots... lol. |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:33:00 -
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One more high slot would be nice. But I can work with this in my Heavy fits. |
Delirium Inferno
Chernova Industries
113
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Scouts have it much worse, we're just not nearly as vocal, or in the numbers. Gallente scout has 1 high slot. Who armor tanks a scout? I mean I guess the lows can be useful for less combat oriented roles...huh...yea, I need to sit down with this build for a while before I actually decide what I want to do. Nobody armor tanks a scout. Nothing to see here. Move along. 
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
228
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:34:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:So here's a question.
What's the basic heavy proto suit look like?
Because that's the sentinel build, yea? don't know... didn't show in the vid. The advanced had the same stats HP wise, less CPU / PGU, 3 low slots. I'm guessing the basic has 2 low slots... lol.
No, I don't mean that kind of basic.
There is a completely different category called basic.
There is sentinel std, adv, pro.
There is basic std, adv, pro.
Both are heavy, and both would have different stats, yea? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2729
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:37:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Nobody armor tanks a scout.
Cuz they shield tank, in order to not die to a stiff wind....this is going to be interesting.... |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:43:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:So here's a question.
What's the basic heavy proto suit look like?
Because that's the sentinel build, yea? don't know... didn't show in the vid. The advanced had the same stats HP wise, less CPU / PGU, 3 low slots. I'm guessing the basic has 2 low slots... lol. No, I don't mean that kind of basic. There is a completely different category called basic. There is sentinel std, adv, pro. There is basic std, adv, pro. Both are heavy, and both would have different stats, yea? At 13:25 you can see him looking at the light armor scout and basic, and they have different descriptions. "A basic minmatar light dropsuit frame without any role-specific customization". It continues this type of description all the way up to proto.
Ah... he didn't show in the vid. i won't get my hopes up though, it's Amarr.
When other heavy race suits come in, by 2014 or so, I might get my hopes up. Till then, meh.
Do the best I can with lolarmor.
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
280
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Nobody armor tanks a scout.
Cuz they shield tank, in order to not die to a stiff wind....this is going to be interesting....
With all the scrambler rifles running around, are you sure you want to shield tank? And Gallente are so good with shields, right? |
KryptixX
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
397
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Posted - 2013.05.02 00:22:00 -
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are proto armor plates still 10% penalty or did they cut them in half? |
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