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Dat Altt
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:32:00 -
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I don't understand the hate for these guys. They're a damned (Obviously terrible) training academy. Why all the hatred? |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
228
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:34:00 -
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Dat Altt wrote:I don't understand the hate for these guys. They're a damned (Obviously terrible) training academy. Why all the hatred?
I dont think there is a *lot* of hate towards us I think most give us a good amount of respect, some may simply see us as easy targets. That being said, just because we are a training corperation, that does not mean we dont have some highly skilled players. Who do you think does the training? |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
183
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:35:00 -
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Dat Altt wrote:I don't understand the hate for these guys. They're a damned (Obviously terrible) training academy. Why all the hatred?
I often wander this myself but I don't know the history of them or anything about them and am pretty new to this game so I assumed maybe in EVE they act like dicks. I have no clue though. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1010
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:36:00 -
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Regnum, Sota Pop, Free Beers, and Keyser Soze VerbalKint in 3, 2, 1..... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2063
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:43:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Regnum, Sota Pop, Free Beers, and Keyser Soze VerbalKint in 3, 2, 1..... We don't hate anyone. We just have...Black Impulses. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
106
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:49:00 -
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<-- Loves the schools. |
Dat Altt
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:52:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Regnum, Sota Pop, Free Beers, and Keyser Soze VerbalKint in 3, 2, 1.....
Your corp is hated too right? What did you guys do...? |
Dat Altt
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:53:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Dat Altt wrote:I don't understand the hate for these guys. They're a damned (Obviously terrible) training academy. Why all the hatred? I dont think there is a *lot* of hate towards us I think most give us a good amount of respect, some may simply see us as easy targets. That being said, just because we are a training corperation, that does not mean we dont have some highly skilled players. Who do you think does the training?
I guess that makes sense, but I remember a thread something about which corp will be attacking which and...A lot of people went ahead and said D-uni. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1012
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:54:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Regnum, Sota Pop, Free Beers, and Keyser Soze VerbalKint in 3, 2, 1..... We don't hate anyone. We just have... Black Impulses. Others in.... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2063
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:55:00 -
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to answer the question - neither corp is hated. Both corps came together and asked the community if they could take a planet and keep it neutral from all alliances and corps. The community responded with a big ol' "Pay us or gtfo."
Though they picked up a few knight and shining armors. No idea where this 'skill' they speak of is. All either school ever do in my game is go negative lol |
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XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
229
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:05:00 -
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Dat Altt wrote:
I guess that makes sense, but I remember a thread something about which corp will be attacking which and...A lot of people went ahead and said D-uni.
SoTa PoP wrote:to answer the question - neither corp is hated. Both corps came together and asked the community if they could take a planet and keep it neutral from all alliances and corps. The community responded with a big ol' "Pay us or gtfo."
Though they picked up a few knight and shining armors. No idea where this 'skill' they speak of is. All either school ever do in my game is go negative lol
This basicly sums it up. It was not so much us asking permission, but basicly doing our best to remain neutral and announce our plans so that way no one take it as us being aggressors.
And yes there is 'skill', sorry if you havn't seen any. We are a very large corp with the vast majority learning the game, odds are you will see players still learning the game. That being said I wont sit here and say I am a great player, I am good, but not great. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2064
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:09:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:
And yes there is 'skill', sorry if you havn't seen any. We are a very large corp with the vast majority learning the game, odds are you will see players still learning the game. That being said I wont sit here and say I am a great player, I am good, but not great.
Fair enough, I'm only decent myself. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1012
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:23:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:XXfootnoteXX wrote:
And yes there is 'skill', sorry if you havn't seen any. We are a very large corp with the vast majority learning the game, odds are you will see players still learning the game. That being said I wont sit here and say I am a great player, I am good, but not great.
Fair enough, I'm only decent myself. See what I did there? |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1013
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:33:00 -
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Dat Altt wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Regnum, Sota Pop, Free Beers, and Keyser Soze VerbalKint in 3, 2, 1..... Your corp is hated too right? What did you guys do...? We are, not to rub it in, quite loved actually. You will find many people saying they'll attack DUNI and not Bojo's for little reason other than they like BSOTT for some reason.
But we felt like we weren't getting enough attention so we made a big splash and now the lifeguards are saying we can't do cannon balls into the pool. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
50
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:55:00 -
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Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with social Darwinism- the strongest corporations will always try to gobble up the weak, especially if they perceive them as easy targets We have the same thing here, just look at the constant **** waving and the fact that three corps have now been taken down (well technically as both the Southern Legion and Tritan are rebuilding).
But the hatred is placed on them because they are perceived as an easy target. What's sad is that, Dust Uni and Bojo's school are both working hard to make sure new players understand the game and continue playing, but a few corporations think it's a great idea to crush them. But don't we have a bunch of these threads talking about how Dust might (or is) failing and what can be done about it. The fact is we already have two great schools in place and instead of trying to consume them, why not support them so that we can make this game welcoming to new players. Because without an influx of new players this game will fail. Regardless if we like it or not, the future of this game depends on new blood.
Osiris. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
171
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Posted - 2013.05.01 18:57:00 -
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XXfootnoteXX wrote:Dat Altt wrote:I don't understand the hate for these guys. They're a damned (Obviously terrible) training academy. Why all the hatred? I dont think there is a *lot* of hate towards us I think most give us a good amount of respect, some may simply see us as easy targets. That being said, just because we are a training corperation, that does not mean we dont have some highly skilled players. Who do you think does the training?
Lousy players that don't know any better because they are all pubstars. Of course you are welcome to send you 4-5 A team players with 3 of your top trainees and prove that statement incorrect against us if you wish. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2064
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:01:00 -
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To be fair and reasonable - Regnum started this. He just wanted to troll - he didn't literally want to hit these corps. But both corps puffed up there chest to him and brought in the rest of us by referencing imps against him and a few other trolls. Bad diplomatic move.
A lot of us actually wanted to see the Meta in this game expand in this way - but now we gotta torch 'em. Such a shame :( I almost hope they hold us off. Though very unlikely. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
171
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:05:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with social Darwinism- the strongest corporations will always try to gobble up the weak, especially if they perceive them as easy targets We have the same thing here, just look at the constant **** waving and the fact that three corps have now been taken down (well technically as both the Southern Legion and Tritan are rebuilding).
But the hatred is placed on them because they are perceived as an easy target. What's sad is that, Dust Uni and Bojo's school are both working hard to make sure new players understand the game and continue playing, but a few corporations think it's a great idea to crush them. But don't we have a bunch of these threads talking about how Dust might (or is) failing and what can be done about it. The fact is we already have two great schools in place and instead of trying to consume them, why not support them so that we can make this game welcoming to new players. Because without an influx of new players this game will fail. Regardless if we like it or not, the future of this game depends on new blood.
Osiris.
If new blood really wants to be good they are better off requesting ReGnum to train them. If you learn how to play the game from mediocre players you only produce mediocre students.
Now DUNI is meh, Bojo i like better mainly cause Bojo is funnier and doesnt pretend to be anything else other than who he is. That said Bojo wont pay us for our protection so instead of the shield he gets the sword.
Its not personal its business. We stil maintain a bargain can be struck with Bojo if he simply opens his wallet.
DUNI on the other hand eff that noise they get the sword and will learn to say thank you may I please have another. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1014
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:33:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:To be fair and reasonable - Regnum started this. He just wanted to troll - he didn't literally want to hit these corps. But both corps puffed up there chest to him and brought in the rest of us by referencing imps against him and a few other trolls. Bad diplomatic move.
A lot of us actually wanted to see the Meta in this game expand in this way - but now we gotta torch 'em. Such a shame :( I almost hope they hold us off. Though very unlikely. I was honestly disappointed to see him fed. When words like scrub, AFK, non-factor, etc. are tossed around, you know some one's ego is going to get burned. But now the horses are startled and you must run with them or risk being trampled.
However, I have many people who are excited. It's not everyday you get the chance to face off with the Imps hombre y hombre. Trust me we're not going to field students against you, we're going to try and make it at least a little fun.
I am honestly not a great player. I'm a goofball player who takes the unorthodox road where the word "Great" has never trodden. I am a scout who uses Burst AR and TAR. I am a scout who uses the Mass Driver, normal and Breach. I am a scout who uses RE's and Swarm Launchers. I am unique no doubt, but when you are unique to whom can you compare? Great is a player I can not be. But you will have so much fun watching where you step! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2064
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:44:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:To be fair and reasonable - Regnum started this. He just wanted to troll - he didn't literally want to hit these corps. But both corps puffed up there chest to him and brought in the rest of us by referencing imps against him and a few other trolls. Bad diplomatic move.
A lot of us actually wanted to see the Meta in this game expand in this way - but now we gotta torch 'em. Such a shame :( I almost hope they hold us off. Though very unlikely. I was honestly disappointed to see him fed. When words like scrub, AFK, non-factor, etc. are tossed around, you know some one's ego is going to get burned. But now the horses are startled and you must run with them or risk being trampled. However, I have many people who are excited. It's not everyday you get the chance to face off with the Imps hombre y hombre. Trust me we're not going to field students against you, we're going to try and make it at least a little fun. I am honestly not a great player. I'm a goofball player who takes the unorthodox road where the word "Great" has never trodden. I am a scout who uses Burst AR and TAR. I am a scout who uses the Mass Driver, normal and Breach. I am a scout who uses RE's and Swarm Launchers. I am unique no doubt, but when you are unique to whom can you compare? Great is a player I can not be. But you will have so much fun watching where you step! But yes, although my name is a trademark and plastered on my school like a self centric egotistical maniac, I believe my ego to be subdued and quiet, like Roy after the tiger bit him. I seem to remember you instigating the imps more then anyone ^_^
I just don't see the point - you were probably put up for extortion because your plan requires a certain amount of ISK to make things smooth - to fight the imps is to risk it all on a gamble rather then pay whatever fee Imps want which will be significantly less then the losses they'll hand you.
Can't we all just get a long? An academy paying for protection seems reasonable to me in the sort of universe we're in. Just pay Imps and let us be on our way to the real fights and you get your meta planet. |
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Skipper Jones
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
30
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:05:00 -
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When they tried to call dibs on a planet |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1014
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:05:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote: I seem to remember you instigating the imps more then anyone ^_^
I just don't see the point - you were probably put up for extortion because your plan requires a certain amount of ISK to make things smooth - to fight the imps is to risk it all on a gamble rather then pay whatever fee Imps want which will be significantly less then the losses they'll hand you.
Can't we all just get a long? An academy paying for protection seems reasonable to me in the sort of universe we're in. Just pay Imps and let us be on our way to the real fights and you get your meta planet.
My point exactly.
Anyways about getting along....
SoTa, if I never made an enemy, I'd be playing this game wrong. I want to play it right. Go big or go home. I'm making "enemies" (not really I look upon the Imps as the Harlem Globetrotters of Dust 514) with the biggest toughest guy there is. After this battle if it is even significant (I really hope it is), I'd love to have you teach some padawans.
Yes, having an opponent is detrimental to my cause, but it's not just about me. It's about all these supporters who want a fight. I'm going to give to them. Plus, this community has gone stagnate. There hasn't been this much stir in a while. Admit that at least.
Protection does seem reasonable, but again, I'd have no opponents to battle if the Imps were protecting the school. BSOTT isn't as neutral as DUNI, BSOTT is independent (LRA was like a test, and it failed). Come at me bro! I am the mouse that roared!
BTW I love that movie |
Schalac 17
Expert Intervention Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:45:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote: SoTa, if I never made an enemy, I'd be playing this game wrong. I want to play it right. Go big or go home. I'm making "enemies" (not really I look upon the Imps as the Harlem Globetrotters of Dust 514) with the biggest toughest guy there is.
I have a feeling this is going to change a lot when these players that are so good no longer have their sharpshooter pro at 5, and more people spec into proto suits with the SP reset.
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Fist Groinpunch
immobile infantry
3
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:11:00 -
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People are hating on them because they called dibs on a planet. That by itself is a lame thing to do. But they also lied through their teeth about their motivations for choosing said planet. I don't like liars.
It's all in here among other places:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68333 |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1321
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:13:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:To be fair and reasonable - Regnum started this. He just wanted to troll - he didn't literally want to hit these corps. But both corps puffed up there chest to him and brought in the rest of us by referencing imps against him and a few other trolls. Bad diplomatic move.
A lot of us actually wanted to see the Meta in this game expand in this way - but now we gotta torch 'em. Such a shame :( I almost hope they hold us off. Though very unlikely. I was honestly disappointed to see him fed. When words like scrub, AFK, non-factor, etc. are tossed around, you know some one's ego is going to get burned. But now the horses are startled and you must run with them or risk being trampled. However, I have many people who are excited. It's not everyday you get the chance to face off with the Imps hombre y hombre. Trust me we're not going to field students against you, we're going to try and make it at least a little fun. I am honestly not a great player. I'm a goofball player who takes the unorthodox road where the word "Great" has never trodden. I am a scout who uses Burst AR and TAR. I am a scout who uses the Mass Driver, normal and Breach. I am a scout who uses RE's and Swarm Launchers. I am unique no doubt, but when you are unique to whom can you compare? Great is a player I can not be. But you will have so much fun watching where you step! But yes, although my name is a trademark and plastered on my school like a self centric egotistical maniac, I believe my ego to be subdued and quiet, like Roy after the tiger bit him. Bojo, your bizzare fits and play styles are why we <3 you, and they've thrown up some great things like the attack methana. Sides, you're the only person I know who has teleported in dust... |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2065
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:27:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:SoTa PoP wrote: I seem to remember you instigating the imps more then anyone ^_^
I just don't see the point - you were probably put up for extortion because your plan requires a certain amount of ISK to make things smooth - to fight the imps is to risk it all on a gamble rather then pay whatever fee Imps want which will be significantly less then the losses they'll hand you.
Can't we all just get a long? An academy paying for protection seems reasonable to me in the sort of universe we're in. Just pay Imps and let us be on our way to the real fights and you get your meta planet.
My point exactly. Anyways about getting along.... SoTa, if I never made an enemy, I'd be playing this game wrong. I want to play it right. Go big or go home. I'm making "enemies" (not really I look upon the Imps as the Harlem Globetrotters of Dust 514) with the biggest toughest guy there is. After this battle if it is even significant (I really hope it is), I'd love to have you teach some padawans. Yes, having an opponent is detrimental to my cause, but it's not just about me. It's about all these supporters who want a fight. I'm going to give to them. Plus, this community has gone stagnate. There hasn't been this much stir in a while. Admit that at least. Protection does seem reasonable, but again, I'd have no opponents to battle if the Imps were protecting the school. BSOTT isn't as neutral as DUNI, BSOTT is independent (LRA was like a test, and it failed). Come at me bro! I am the mouse that roared!BTW I love that movie :D If you ever need heavy trainers hit me up. I'd love to help your school out after burning it :D
Course there are training fees and ect. :3
And just to stir things - your allies don't need a reason or the schools to do anything. You'll be used as a figure head for 'em then thrown to the side as a failure when it falls. I'd rather not see your name dragged through the mud just because you reached out to the wrong people.
If you want to do more then train then I implore you to reconsider everything - but if it is all you want to really accomplish then take our offer and take what relative safety you can to expand upon your meta until the point you can stand on your own. All this attention will ultimately take everything your schools want to accomplish and demolish it. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
250
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:59:00 -
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I hope someone films it as it plays out...
How long do you guys think it will last before the majority of the community say **** it, and go takeover unsuspecting planets that have been dominated by B-List or C-List corps? Days? Months? |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
314
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:07:00 -
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I have muchos respect for the Dust Uni guys because they've done (to the best of their abilities at least) what seems like actual, scholarly testing of things in this game and have been genuinely nice guys all around.
......Heavy Substitute Teachers you say??? SoTa is really creepy though :( He'll hit on all the little boys. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2066
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:10:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:I have muchos respect for the Dust Uni guys because they've done (to the best of their abilities at least) what seems like actual, scholarly testing of things in this game and have been genuinely nice guys all around.
......Heavy Substitute Teachers you say??? SoTa is really creepy though :( He'll hit on all the little boys. I have candy and anime! |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
314
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:17:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:I have muchos respect for the Dust Uni guys because they've done (to the best of their abilities at least) what seems like actual, scholarly testing of things in this game and have been genuinely nice guys all around.
......Heavy Substitute Teachers you say??? SoTa is really creepy though :( He'll hit on all the little boys. I have candy and anime! ....and tentacles? |
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