DUST Search - Weapon pick up...

KalOfTheRathi wrote:

Search for Salvage.

Heck, knock yourself out and read an interview with a Dev. Salvage is what you are talking about. it is in (or almost out) of development and the odds they are going to change it so you can pick up stuff is ... not likely.

KalOfTheRathi wrote:

Dumb idea. Do you plan on replacing the SP/ISK/AUR Logi Bros have spent on Nano Hives?

What happens when someone is waiting for Revive? The Red stands over them and starts picking their not quite corpse clean? Ain't gonna happen. Finally, when a clone dies the Entire thing Disintegrates or hadn't you noticed that?

Imagine your perfect weapon being picked off you then some Logi Bro revives you. Now you stand around without a primary weapon and if the Red was fast enough not even a side arm. Grenades too. Just you, a walking target, heading to a Supply Depot to refit everything. Better hope the Red doesn't like your helmet or you could die in the arbitrary atmospheres of whatever planet you were fighting on. Not to mention if the HAV drivers have already blown up all the Supply Depots. Then you get to commit suicide just to get a weapon to use. Sounds like a perfect Rage Quite solution to me.

As far as picking up items from the Fallen there is a solution that is Already Planned. It is a Salvage system that works like EVE Online. Every item in the battle is tested to see if if survives or not. If it Does survive it is put into a pool and distributed after the battle. The current Salvage is a place holder until the proper one is in place.

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Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:42:00 - [1] - Quote can we please have the ability to pick up dead peoples weapon. Ex.) a scout suit can only pick up what it is allowed to pick up such as it cannot pick p a HMG but pick up AR's you get to keep the weapon if you dont die with it and also, you lose the one you are using automatically, so their is a fee to picking up good weapons
DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 156	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:44:00 - [2] - Quote I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the majority's opinion will be a resounding "no".
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1313	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:46:00 - [3] - Quote No
hooc order Deep Space Republic 4	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:48:00 - [4] - Quote yes
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1166	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:49:00 - [5] - Quote No.
DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 156	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:51:00 - [6] - Quote hooc order wrote: yes or at least be able to scavenge ammo and nades. Ammo is one thing, but picking up weapons you didn't spend the SP on to use? No.
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:52:00 - [7] - Quote DigiOps wrote: hooc order wrote: yes or at least be able to scavenge ammo and nades. Ammo is one thing, but picking up weapons you didn't spend the SP on to use? No. i meant to say you can only pick up weapon you already spent SP or else it would be unfair
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3606	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:58:00 - [8] - Quote If you have SP invested to use it, then yes.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1166	Posted - 2013.05.01 00:59:00 - [9] - Quote Only if you have to hack my corpse to do it. squad chat "guys, he's taking my stuff! stop him!"
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 126	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:01:00 - [10] - Quote gbghg & Sloth9230 wrote: No. Might I request a little elaboration from you gents? Why "No."?

Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 186	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:04:00 - [11] - Quote Way ahead of you. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63272
SickJ French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire 59	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:33:00 - [12] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Only if you have to hack my corpse to do it. This would be the only way that makes sense, lore-wise, since our weapons are probably ID-tagged a la MGS4.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1167	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:35:00 - [13] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: gbghg & Sloth9230 wrote: No. Might I request a little elaboration from you gents? Why "No."? I would assume all of our stuff comes with some form of security, so that only the owner can use it, I'd be fine with it if it required a hack or something.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1167	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:36:00 - [14] - Quote deleted
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 126	Posted - 2013.05.01 01:57:00 - [15] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: gbghg & Sloth9230 wrote: No. Might I request a little elaboration from you gents? Why "No."? I would assume all of our stuff comes with some form of security, so that only the owner can use it, I'd be fine with it if it required a hack or something. Also, it kind of de-values logis and nano-hives if it's an automatic process. I can agree that it should require a "hack" or something similar, though I also don't think it should be a full amount of ammo/equipment, maybe a magazine or two and a single piece of equipment.
TheSprayNPray2 Arrogance. EoN. 0	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:00:00 - [16] - Quote No. i will not let you pick up my 171k gun lol it is not fair
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1319	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:02:00 - [17] - Quote No. As people said above, SP, CPU, and PG are the main problems. Also consider that your fitting destroys itself when you die, and there's no reason to say that doesn't work.
Veritas Vitae Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 129	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:02:00 - [18] - Quote I like the corpsehack idea.
crazy space 1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 1048	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:09:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: If you have SP invested to use it, and your suit's PG/CPU can handle it, then yes. This, you should able to drop your current gun and pick up a new one but only fit it doesn't push you over fittings , and you must have the skills for it. Shouldn't be too hard. Or at least let us pick up matching ammo please
Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 562	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:32:00 - [20] - Quote This wouldn't be an issue if you guys wouldn't run away from my damn Nano Hives.

DigiOps DUST University Ivy League 159	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:34:00 - [21] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: This wouldn't be an issue if you guys wouldn't run away from my damn Nano Hives. I've learned not to rely on logis in pubs... lol
SIRAJKNIGHT KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 63	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:35:00 - [22] - Quote hmm....maybe you can pick up your loot but you won't be able to use it in battle, it will go to your assets after the match.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1173	Posted - 2013.05.01 02:43:00 - [23] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: This wouldn't be an issue if you guys wouldn't run away from my damn Nano Hives. My corpmates told me those were bombs
hooc order Deep Space Republic 4	Posted - 2013.05.01 04:13:00 - [24] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Only if you have to hack my corpse to do it. squad chat "guys, he's taking my stuff! stahp him!" That would be pretty cool.
hooc order Deep Space Republic 4	Posted - 2013.05.01 04:17:00 - [25] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Jotun Hiem wrote: This wouldn't be an issue if you guys wouldn't run away from my damn Nano Hives. My corpmates told me those were bombs Those red flower lookin things the enemy throws at you are bonus points!!!!
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 126	Posted - 2013.05.01 05:42:00 - [26] - Quote SIRAJKNIGHT wrote: hmm....maybe you can pick up your loot but you won't be able to use it in battle, it will go to your assets after the match. It would be cool if we had cargo slots that could hold any equipment, grenade, mod or weapon without regard to fitting since it wouldn't be active or usable. Make it so that you lose the items if you die while carrying them (though you can still go loot your body unless someone else gets to it first) though any items deposited in a Supply Depot would appear in your assets after the match.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 248	Posted - 2013.05.01 06:40:00 - [27] - Quote Jotun Hiem wrote: This wouldn't be an issue if you guys wouldn't run away from my damn Nano Hives. A lot of ******** running from nanohives and repair tools
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 384	Posted - 2013.05.01 06:47:00 - [28] - Quote Search for Salvage. Heck, knock yourself out and read an interview with a Dev. Salvage is what you are talking about. it is in (or almost out) of development and the odds they are going to change it so you can pick up stuff is ... not likely.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1349	Posted - 2013.05.01 14:27:00 - [29] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: can we please have the ability to pick up dead peoples weapon. Ex.) a scout suit can only pick up what it is allowed to pick up such as it cannot pick p a HMG but pick up AR's you dont get to keep the weapon if you survive in it so you pay what a normal AR's price 4000 isk for a 17k isk gek , you lose the one you are using automatically, so their is a fee to picking up good weapons You should absolutely be able to pick up dropped weapons that you have the skill level for.
BUGSBUNNY LOONEY A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 15	Posted - 2013.05.01 14:33:00 - [30] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: can we please have the ability to pick up dead peoples weapon. Ex.) a scout suit can only pick up what it is allowed to pick up such as it cannot pick p a HMG but pick up AR's you dont get to keep the weapon if you survive in it so you pay what a normal AR's price 4000 isk for a 17k isk gek , you lose the one you are using automatically, so their is a fee to picking up good weapons Yes soon TM

Simon Havoc Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 26	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:00:00 - [31] - Quote Think of it as having weapons configured to your own biometrics. If someone picks it up its a useless hunk of scrap. With nano-scale technology, even bullets can become inert if the tech was placed in the casing or magazine.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 349	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:20:00 - [32] - Quote I am not sure I like this. While I admit that it would be awfully convenient to be able to loot corpses for ammo I just see this stripping value from logis. Weapons should be bio-metrically programmed for their user, but if we were to allow people to pick them up off the battle field after a successful hack (and only if they have the required skills to use it) I think they should suffer some chance of critical failure. This would motivate people to still rely on their logis for support but allow them to immediately salvage a compromised weapon in a tight spot if necessary.
0 Try Harder Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 288	Posted - 2013.05.01 15:37:00 - [33] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: can we please have the ability to pick up dead peoples weapon. Ya, I like it. You can hack an enemy vehicles too, so it's not like you need skills or anything to use it. **** forum warriors! Support those who play the game!
Atikali Havendoorr HERBGROWERS 9	Posted - 2013.05.02 09:40:00 - [34] - Quote I like it. Maybe after hacking. At least for ammo and grenades. Weapons and equipment should stay. But then there is this: KalOfTheRathi wrote: Search for Salvage. Heck, knock yourself out and read an interview with a Dev. Salvage is what you are talking about. it is in (or almost out) of development and the odds they are going to change it so you can pick up stuff is ... not likely. and this KalOfTheRathi wrote: Dumb idea. Do you plan on replacing the SP/ISK/AUR Logi Bros have spent on Nano Hives? What happens when someone is waiting for Revive? The Red stands over them and starts picking their not quite corpse clean? Ain't gonna happen. Finally, when a clone dies the Entire thing Disintegrates or hadn't you noticed that? Imagine your perfect weapon being picked off you then some Logi Bro revives you. Now you stand around without a primary weapon and if the Red was fast enough not even a side arm. Grenades too. Just you, a walking target, heading to a Supply Depot to refit everything. Better hope the Red doesn't like your helmet or you could die in the arbitrary atmospheres of whatever planet you were fighting on. Not to mention if the HAV drivers have already blown up all the Supply Depots. Then you get to commit suicide just to get a weapon to use. Sounds like a perfect Rage Quite solution to me. As far as picking up items from the Fallen there is a solution that is Already Planned. It is a Salvage system that works like EVE Online. Every item in the battle is tested to see if if survives or not. If it Does survive it is put into a pool and distributed after the battle. The current Salvage is a place holder until the proper one is in place.
Ted Nugget SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 86	Posted - 2013.05.02 09:48:00 - [35] - Quote DigiOps wrote: hooc order wrote: yes or at least be able to scavenge ammo and nades. Ammo is one thing, but picking up weapons you didn't spend the SP on to use? No. why you say it like that? aur does exactly what you just said. for instance a person can use a tank with no sp by simply purchasing aur.. meanwhile i had to put 5 mil sp into it to use it..
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2661	Posted - 2013.05.02 10:54:00 - [36] - Quote How would you implement this? You'd either be rewarding new players with something they haven't earned, or punishing them even more for being new players. Option 1: Allow anyone to steal any weapon. New player shows up to see the end of an epic Proto vs. Proto fight, and either finishes the enemy suit or just loots the corpse when the teammate does the job. He now has a Duvolle even though he hasn't got the relevant skills to use it. The game still let him pick up a weapon he doesn't know how to handle, and it's totally functional in his hands. Sounds fair? No? Didn't think so. Next option? Option 2: Limit players to weapons they're skilled for. New player manages to legitimately beat a Proto player, 1 vs. 1, and loots the corpse. "I'm sorry, this guy's weapon is too awesome for you to use. Try stealing from someone on your level. Even though you already proved you can kick the kitten out of this guy's super-weapon. Sounds fair? Didn't think so. Scavenge for ammo? What if you're using a Scrambler Rifle and the other guy has an AR? Do you still get to collect ammo? What if you both have your primaries out, and they don't match, but you both have SMGs as sidearms? Can you loot the SMG ammo and not the AR ammo? What if you're a Logi and have almost-full ammo, but no Nanohives? If you kill a Sniper who brought Nanohives, can you steal his Nanohive? If you're running a cheap Logi fitting with a Militia Repair Tool, and loot a corpse with an Advanced model, can you upgrade? Will this looting take your PG/CPU limitations into account?
Lynn Beck Forsaken Legion-0 14	Posted - 2013.05.02 10:56:00 - [37] - Quote Doesn't it destroy itself after the owner dies? That's why the suit disappears when you die. Why don't you just steal my suit and my sp while you're at it. Greedy ass noobs. Want my KLO-5 Scrambler pistol that killed 3 of your squad, including a shotgun and mass driver? SKILL INTO IT NOOB.
Arx Ardashir Bragian Order Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2013.05.03 10:18:00 - [38] - Quote Yes, the bodies disintegrate after death, but that's what this game is all about y'all. Hell, it's in the title! It's all about the nanite dust! This means that there needs to be a new class of equipment developed: Salvaging Equipment: Militia Level: Bare Hands - Quick, scoop some up and shove it into your pocket. Standard Level: Mason Jar - Scoop up the nanite dust into this fine looking mason jar. Advanced Level: Dust Pan - Lets mercs better sweep up the nanite dust of fallen enemies and comrades. Prototype Level: Dirtdevil - Quickly sucks up all that nanite dust in just a couple seconds.


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