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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:08:00 -
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Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....
So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe.... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2148
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:09:00 -
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Interesting to know. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:13:00 -
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Last i checked, the game doesn't actually show you weapon ranges, only way to know is to fire the thing. Though you're probably right about people just being used to SS ranges. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
158
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:13:00 -
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AR without sharpshooter is pretty funny. This is a buff to heavies btw. |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:15:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....
So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe....
Where you at Fanfest?
Did you play the new build?
I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary.
How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1121
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:17:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....
So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe.... Where you at Fanfest? Did you play the new build? I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary. How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all When can we expect the next P.S.A? |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
179
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Posted - 2013.04.30 04:17:00 -
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I im in a skype chat with a bunch of people and CCP Lariat said this is true. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:13:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....
So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe.... Where you at Fanfest? Did you play the new build? I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary. How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all
Man, you really need to work on how you interact with people if you're part of Public Relations.
Just saying, you come off as a bit abrasive in every letter you put your fingers on. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
135
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:20:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....
So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe.... Where you at Fanfest? Did you play the new build? I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary. How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all Man, you really need to work on how you interact with people if you're part of Public Relations. Just saying, you come off as a bit abrasive in every letter you put your fingers on.
lol... "don't feed the trolls" as far as i can see everything his corp does is one big attention grabbing troll... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
260
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:47:00 -
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its not the ar that got nerf just the sharpshooter skill which nerfs all weapons and in a way nerf to ARs |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
203
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:48:00 -
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I heard from my cousin's uncle's friend that has a cousin that lives in Iceland that damage mods are being taken out of the game. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.04.30 05:54:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I heard from my cousin's uncle's friend that has a cousin that lives in Iceland that damage mods are being taken out of the game. If that's true, then it, and sharpshooter, will probably be added as weapon mods eventually, which makes a lot more sense. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:05:00 -
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ReGnUM Public Relations wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....
So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe.... Where you at Fanfest? Did you play the new build? I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary. How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all
So, do any of the weapons actually have a satisfactory range, or are they all just pretty much junk now? How about the Tac AR (did they fix the TAR?) or the laser. Man I am starting to get so disapointed with this whole thing.
Please help. I am desperate for info on this subject. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
203
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:14:00 -
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I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1124
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:21:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days. They're just mad that they now have to worry about HMGs again. Let the OP posts begin! |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:22:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days.
You know, I pride my self for my abilities as a marksman in real life. I can make a two inch pattern with open sights at two hundred and fifty yards with a simi automatic assault rifle, and with a fully auto I can completely obliterate a target, with controled bursts at the same range. I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cosgar wrote:I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days. They're just mad that they now have to worry about HMGs again. Let the OP posts begin! When did they never end? I swear, the word nerf is written on these forums more than TPS reports from the Nerf company. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:26:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Cosgar wrote:I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days. You know, I pride my self for my abilities as a marksman in real life. I can make a two in pattern with open sights at two hundred and fifty yards with a simi automatic assault rifle, and with a fully auto I can completely obliterate a target, with controled bursts at the same range. I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for. Seriously, what did guys like you do before people started to figure out that sharpshooter was game breakingly OP? Not trolling, I'm legitimately curious. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1124
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:28:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for. Sniper ranged HMGs, 1HKO Javelins, Nukes, these people can't handle reality!
Plus, EVE player would just OB us all the time for *****&giggles. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1126
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:29:00 -
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Cosgar wrote: When did they never end? I swear, the word nerf is written on these forums more than TPS reports from the Nerf company.
The chubby haters have been pretty quiet lately. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cosgar wrote: When did they never end? I swear, the word nerf is written on these forums more than TPS reports from the Nerf company.
The chubby haters have been pretty quiet lately. ****! I just spit soda out of my nose on that one! +1 |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:33:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Cosgar wrote:I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days. You know, I pride my self for my abilities as a marksman in real life. I can make a two in pattern with open sights at two hundred and fifty yards with a simi automatic assault rifle, and with a fully auto I can completely obliterate a target, with controled bursts at the same range. I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for. Seriously, what did guys like you do before people started to figure out that sharpshooter was game breakingly OP? Not trolling, I'm legitimately curious.
I've got another legitimate counter question for you. How many guys have died in RL wars because they thought guys like me were OP and shouldn't exist? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1126
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:37:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote: I've got another legitimate counter question for you. How many guys have died in RL wars because they thought guys like me were OP and shouldn't exist?
Most deaths in war are caused by explosions, so they probably think grenade spammers are more OP than you |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:39:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Cosgar wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:Cosgar wrote:I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days. You know, I pride my self for my abilities as a marksman in real life. I can make a two in pattern with open sights at two hundred and fifty yards with a simi automatic assault rifle, and with a fully auto I can completely obliterate a target, with controled bursts at the same range. I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for. Seriously, what did guys like you do before people started to figure out that sharpshooter was game breakingly OP? Not trolling, I'm legitimately curious. I've got another legitimate counter question for you. How many guys have died in RL wars because they thought guys like me were OP and shouldn't exist? I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. You AR guys take things to the extreme somet- all the time. Nothing is being nerfed on the AR. You're getting better iron sights, a fairly equal ground against lasers, another skill that reduces kick on your rifle and the tactical looks usable. SS was a broken game mechanic and we all know it. |
Higgs flagrantfool
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:41:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for. Sniper ranged HMGs, Shotguns that go past 5ft, 1HKO Javelins, Nukes, these people can't handle reality! Plus, EVE player would just OB us all the time for *****&giggles.
All of this stuff functions in reality perfectly fine. It all just needs to be set up realistically. Javelins are fine if they would give us 5 to 10 mile maps to hide a tank in like they are suposed to be doing, and proper ways to gather ground intel. As far as orbitals go, with friendly fire on, no they wouldn't. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1127
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:43:00 -
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Higgs flagrantfool wrote:As far as orbitals go, with friendly fire on, no they wouldn't. They so would, just because they hate us. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.04.30 06:54:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Higgs flagrantfool wrote:As far as orbitals go, with friendly fire on, no they wouldn't. They so would, just because they hate us. Actually, they will soonGäó but not until we have a way to shot back at them. |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
216
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Posted - 2013.04.30 08:40:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Last i checked, the game doesn't actually show you weapon ranges, only way to know is to fire the thing. Though you're probably right about people just being used to SS ranges.
Last you checked? You mean in the current build? Because it does show you the range. Just point at someone and your reticle will turn orange if in range. It used to be easier with the AR with the optical sights but now you can only use the hip sights to test AR range (except Burst and Tactical). |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.04.30 08:48:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Last i checked, the game doesn't actually show you weapon ranges, only way to know is to fire the thing. Though you're probably right about people just being used to SS ranges. Last you checked? You mean in the current build? Because it does show you the range. Just point at someone and your reticle will turn orange if in range. It used to be easier with the AR with the optical sights but now you can only use the hip sights to test AR range (except Burst and Tactical). I think he meant numerical range in the weapon's description. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax. CRONOS.
304
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Posted - 2013.04.30 09:08:00 -
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Seeing as we're talking about ranges I suggest you follow this thread to get some factual information when uprising hits :P
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40886&find=unread |
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