Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....

So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe....

Where you at Fanfest?

Did you play the new build?

I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary.

How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all

Where you at Fanfest?

Did you play the new build?

I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary.

How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all

Man, you really need to work on how you interact with people if you're part of Public Relations.

Just saying, you come off as a bit abrasive in every letter you put your fingers on.

I heard from my cousin's uncle's friend that has a cousin that lives in Iceland that damage mods are being taken out of the game.

Where you at Fanfest?

Did you play the new build?

I love when people post 5th sourced information, and act like their opinion holds any weight over countless other posts. I played the new build a lot. The Gallente with its attributes, right now, does not offer enough for a incentive for me to use it as a primary.

How about you play the new build first before acting like Mr know it all

I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days.

I love how all the AR purists are treating this like a nerf. Remember when gun fights came down to who had the best aim, reflexes, and the ability to use cover and ADS? Remember when you could actually see who you were shooting at and not just praying and spraying from across the map? Remember when Manus Peak wasn't dominated by snipers that could hit you in your redline from theirs? I miss those days.

They're just mad that they now have to worry about HMGs again. Let the OP posts begin!

You know, I pride my self for my abilities as a marksman in real life. I can make a two in pattern with open sights at two hundred and fifty yards with a simi automatic assault rifle, and with a fully auto I can completely obliterate a target, with controled bursts at the same range. I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for.

I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for.

When did they never end? I swear, the word nerf is written on these forums more than TPS reports from the Nerf company.

The chubby haters have been pretty quiet lately.

Seriously, what did guys like you do before people started to figure out that sharpshooter was game breakingly OP? Not trolling, I'm legitimately curious.

I've got another legitimate counter question for you. How many guys have died in RL wars because they thought guys like me were OP and shouldn't exist?

I've got another legitimate counter question for you. How many guys have died in RL wars because they thought guys like me were OP and shouldn't exist?

Sniper ranged HMGs, Shotguns that go past 5ft, 1HKO Javelins, Nukes, these people can't handle reality!

Plus, EVE player would just OB us all the time for *****&giggles.

As far as orbitals go, with friendly fire on, no they wouldn't.

They so would, just because they hate us.

Last i checked, the game doesn't actually show you weapon ranges, only way to know is to fire the thing. Though you're probably right about people just being used to SS ranges.

Last you checked? You mean in the current build? Because it does show you the range. Just point at someone and your reticle will turn orange if in range. It used to be easier with the AR with the optical sights but now you can only use the hip sights to test AR range (except Burst and Tactical).

You know, I pride my self for my abilities as a marksman in real life. I can make a two inch pattern with open sights at two hundred and fifty yards with a simi automatic assault rifle, and with a fully auto I can completely obliterate a target, with controlled bursts at the same range. I want some reality in this game. That is all I am asking for.

AR without sharpshooter is pretty funny. This is a buff to heavies btw.

Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....

So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe....

There have been a series of examples given across these forums, where people at Fanfest have said that their shots don't reach a particular spot from another specific location. I've used a character with no Sharpshooter skills, and confirmed that my character also can't reach the points used as examples.

So I'm pretty sure OP is right and that there hasn't been a nerf to AR range, but the loss of Sharpshooter means that a weapon that's intended to be a short-range hybrid weapon based on Blaster technology isn't a serious threat against a specifically long-range hand-held railgun. Sounds like it's working as intended.

give BF 3 a shot
and wait for BF 4 if you want reality
you may be disappointed by dust sorry

Seeing as we're talking about ranges I suggest you follow this thread to get some factual information when uprising hits :P

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40886&find=unread

Relax guys. The assault riffles that we got to play with at Fanfest were only Gallente and Amarr. The Gallente ARs have been changed to be more of a close range weapon with higher damage. The new go-to assault riffles that everyone is familiar with will be the Minmatar ones.

Relax guys. The assault riffles that we got to play with at Fanfest were only Gallente and Amarr. The Gallente ARs have been changed to be more of a close range weapon with higher damage. The new go-to assault riffles that everyone is familiar with will be the Minmatar ones.

Man... all this time I was wondering when you were going to post in these threads.

Also, I already +1 your weapon ranges & optimal post but I'll give you a +1 here as well.

Do you plan on doing a separate post with any new or updated ranges of weapons? ex Scrambler Rifle?

What did you hear about the Minnie's new AR?

I'm assuming, like Eve, ranges will be set to races, gallente shortest, minnie next, then amarr, then caldari. So those who want a long range AR will have to wait for the caldari varient.

Relax guys. Its gonna take some time.

not really all the deadly heavies have their sharpshooter up to proficiency at least, you will still be able to out range them and be able to do it more reliably now.

I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. You AR guys take things to the extreme somet- all the time. Nothing is being nerfed on the AR. You're getting better iron sights, a fairly equal ground against lasers, another skill that reduces kick on your rifle and the tactical looks usable. SS was a broken game mechanic and we all know it.

Just that the Minmatar assault riffles would have the well rounded performance & range of current assault riffles.

we were told it's a 3 shot burst weapon

we were told it's a 3 shot burst weapon

So when is it coming. I haven't heard anything about it for this build. So that means we're stuck with the ridiculously short ranges until fanfest next year. Not only that but that only takes care of one weapon type. I'm an avid SMG an SP user and these weapons will also have ridiculously short ranges.

What's the matter, scared of actually having to enter the fray? You would think an SMG user would be used to CQC by now

No dude. I want the option between CQC and ranged combat. As it stands now, it what I am hearing is correct, ranged combat will no longer be an option outside of a sniper rifle, and I effin hate snipers. How the hell is this ok.

Ok from what I understand they are not changing the range on the assault rifle. My friend finally got back to me and said the stats were the same at fanfest....

So why is everyone acting like it's been nerfed to uselessness? No one complained about it before we trained sharpshooter past 2 for the 1st 2 months. Are people just too used to the broken range increase skill? Nothing has changed, on the 6th the AR will go right back to where it was every single other wipe....

How are bullets actually being able to travel "broken"?

Sure you're playing the right genre?

80-110M or range sounds pretty long range to me, so what's your problem?

80-110M or range sounds pretty long range to me, so what's your problem?