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meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 08:30:00 -
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Is Dust official release on May the 14th? Look at this tweet from April 27: https://twitter.com/CCP_Manifest GÇ£DUST 514 launches on 5.14.2013GÇ¥
Does this mean, there will be no patch on the 6th? Is the 14 of May the official release of this game? Like, with all the features, single player, all drop suits etc.? Because if not, I feel that Dust 514 will miss the chance to score on some console owners without a PVE or single player exertions (and this always online philosophy)
Talking about missing chances, heave you read this on IGN btw? http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/04/25/has-dust-514-missed-its-golden-opportunity?abthid=5179672243ef3c2117000014
I know a lot of you donGÇÖt care about sites like IGN or other opinions :). (But you are still welcome to discuss stuff if you like) What I like to know is what exactly is going to happen on the 6 and 14 of May in Dust514. Especially the GÇ£launchGÇ¥ thing, I donGÇÖt feel like the game I ready to be launched.
PS: I really wish that CCP is joking about leaving DUST 514 for a GÇ£longer periodGÇ¥ of time on the PS3 while people are GÇ£saving up money for the ps4GÇ¥. I start 3 clients of eve online simultaneously faster than starting DUST on my PS3. And maybe no one told CCP that gamers have grown up now. Saving up for PS4? Really :)? IGÇÖm going to buy this ****** on first day, and you will have a very hard time to convince me to start my PS3 back up for something other than Dark Souls / Dark Souls 2. Yes I know exactly that not everyone have the money to buy it on the very first time, all IGÇÖm trying to say is: the time is over where the majority of games have to beg their parents to buy product xyz.
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Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
452
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Posted - 2013.04.29 09:36:00 -
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on may 6th, the new build of DUST 514, titled "Uprising" Rolls out. On May 14, the game launches, and we get the first patch of the uprising build, which will introduce the Scrambler Rifle, Flaylock Pistol, and Plasma Cannon, as well as new maps, and a new game mode.
Thus, Uprising will be the first build in DUST's long, storied history that is yet to be written. |
dust badger
BetaMax. CRONOS.
302
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Posted - 2013.04.29 09:39:00 -
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they need a week after the patch to fix things before they release :) |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:01:00 -
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Quote:We see that there may be some unexpected upside on PS3. As people begin to save up their cash to buy that PS4, a free-to-play shooter on PS3 that they can just invest time into, and not that much cash, sounds like a pretty good proposition. That's arguably the most desperate statement from CCP I think I've ever read in the sad, checkered history of this game. |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:15:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:on may 6th, the new build of DUST 514, titled "Uprising" Rolls out. On May 14, the game launches, and we get the first patch of the uprising build, which will introduce the Scrambler Rifle, Flaylock Pistol, and Plasma Cannon, as well as new maps, and a new game mode.
Thus, Uprising will be the first build in DUST's long, storied history that is yet to be written.
Well Sir, thank you a lot. I was a little worried, that there will be no patch at all. I and my friends have a little session on the 11/12 May ;). Is there by chance any more Information about the content for these two dates? A link would be perfectly fine if someone can provide one. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1418
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:23:00 -
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Orin's statement was absolutely correct.
Uprising patch on the 6th.
Launch on the 14th (because 5/14 was too good to pass up).
It will be awesome. |
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meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:31:00 -
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As European and probable a lot of other countries it is 14.05.2013 for us ;) But yeahGǪ I got the joke, still funny :)
Soooooo, and Links or details for this two patches? Would love to have something to read here at work ... :P |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
495
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Posted - 2013.04.29 10:32:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Orin's statement was absolutely correct.
Uprising patch on the 6th.
Launch on the 14th (because 5/14 was too good to pass up).
It will be awesome. Can you confirm that Planetary Conquest and the SP refund happens on the 6th, while the 3 new weapons are coming the 14th?
And if that's right, can you consider changing that? Because if PC and SP refund happens the 6th people have to hold onto their SP if they want to skill into the new weapons?
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KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
374
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Posted - 2013.04.29 11:31:00 -
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@meri jin, you are over thinking things.
Uprising is due May 6th. There are more updates coming quickly. This is a large release and I would expect it to be spread out over some time. May 14th is supposedly new maps and weapons. Which one they call a new build (not a patch, btw) or a release doesn't really matter.
So, relax. May 6th is happening. |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.29 11:41:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:@meri jin, you are over thinking things.
Uprising is due May 6th. There are more updates coming quickly. This is a large release and I would expect it to be spread out over some time. May 14th is supposedly new maps and weapons. Which one they call a new build (not a patch, btw) or a release doesn't really matter.
So, relax. May 6th is happening.
och yes yes, build and patch, now i get it :) |
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Mark Crusader
Much Crying Old Experts
10
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Posted - 2013.04.29 12:14:00 -
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meri jin wrote:I really wish that CCP is joking about leaving DUST 514 for a GÇ£longer periodGÇ¥ of time on the PS3 while people are GÇ£saving up money for the ps4GÇ¥. I start 3 clients of eve online simultaneously faster than starting DUST on my PS3. And maybe no one told CCP that gamers have grown up now. Saving up for PS4? Really :)? IGÇÖm going to buy this ****** on first day, and you will have a very hard time to convince me to start my PS3 back up for something other than Dark Souls / Dark Souls 2. Yes I know exactly that not everyone have the money to buy it on the very first time, all IGÇÖm trying to say is: the time is over where the majority of games have to beg their parents to buy product xyz.
1) there is no reason why the game could not operate on both the PS3 and the PS4 at the same time. That statement was made to relieve people who were concerned CCP would drop support for the PS3 and force them to upgrade if they wanted to keep playing.
2) the Uprising client will start about 3x faster than it does now. |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:34:00 -
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Mark Crusader wrote:meri jin wrote:I really wish that CCP is joking about leaving DUST 514 for a GÇ£longer periodGÇ¥ of time on the PS3 while people are GÇ£saving up money for the ps4GÇ¥. I start 3 clients of eve online simultaneously faster than starting DUST on my PS3. And maybe no one told CCP that gamers have grown up now. Saving up for PS4? Really :)? IGÇÖm going to buy this ****** on first day, and you will have a very hard time to convince me to start my PS3 back up for something other than Dark Souls / Dark Souls 2. Yes I know exactly that not everyone have the money to buy it on the very first time, all IGÇÖm trying to say is: the time is over where the majority of games have to beg their parents to buy product xyz.
1) there is no reason why the game could not operate on both the PS3 and the PS4 at the same time. That statement was made to relieve people who were concerned CCP would drop support for the PS3 and force them to upgrade if they wanted to keep playing. 2) the Uprising client will start about 3x faster than it does now.
I have heard that you can't even play a digital copy on the PS4. The system architecture is way to different from the PS3. That is the reason why you need to stream a ps3 game on your ps4 rather than just use a digital copy. This means for me: for a long term solution, ccp needs a new client for the PS4.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1127
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:39:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Orin's statement was absolutely correct.
Uprising patch on the 6th.
Launch on the 14th (because 5/14 was too good to pass up).
It will be awesome. Can you confirm that Planetary Conquest and the SP refund happens on the 6th, while the 3 new weapons are coming the 14th? And if that's right, can you consider changing that? Because if PC and SP refund happens the 6th people have to hold onto their SP if they want to skill into the new weapons? Seconded. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
464
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:51:00 -
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PS4 arcitecture is to diffrent for game made for ps3 to run on, yes.
Unreal engine was made for x86 architecture, then ported to PS3. PS4 uses x86 the engine was originally made for, so it should be very easy to make it work on PS4. About as hard as getting windows version of eve to run on mac or linux instead of windows. This easy port could be part of why they choose Unreal3 engine to begin with.
Games with engines made for ps3 will be a pain to port. |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.04.30 08:22:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:PS4 arcitecture is to diffrent for game made for ps3 to run on, yes.
Unreal engine was made for x86 architecture, then ported to PS3. PS4 uses x86 the engine was originally made for, so it should be very easy to make it work on PS4. About as hard as getting windows version of eve to run on mac or linux instead of windows. This easy port could be part of why they choose Unreal3 engine to begin with.
Games with engines made for ps3 will be a pain to port.
Then it is probably save to say that ccp was using ps3-Dust just for testing, hyping, balancing and so on, and that the ps4-Dust will have all the promising features. This would be a very horrible thing.
Features like pve content, group pve, very different maps, more players, other map, environment changing, and so on, you know? All the things which should have been in the official release, right from the start. Console gamers are not use to half done things. On the other hand, Dust is nearly free to playGǪ you only need to pay money if you like to win from time to time *troll*.
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
1040
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Posted - 2013.04.30 09:02:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Ten-Sidhe wrote:PS4 arcitecture is to diffrent for game made for ps3 to run on, yes.
Unreal engine was made for x86 architecture, then ported to PS3. PS4 uses x86 the engine was originally made for, so it should be very easy to make it work on PS4. About as hard as getting windows version of eve to run on mac or linux instead of windows. This easy port could be part of why they choose Unreal3 engine to begin with.
Games with engines made for ps3 will be a pain to port. Then it is probably save to say that ccp was using ps3-Dust just for testing, hyping, balancing and so on, and that the ps4-Dust will have all the promising features. This would be a very horrible thing. Features like pve content, group pve, very different maps, more players, other map, environment changing, and so on, you know? All the things which should have been in the official release, right from the start. Console gamers are not use to half done things. On the other hand, Dust is nearly free to playGǪ you only need to pay money if you like to win from time to time *troll*.
No no no you are going into crazy land. I produce games in unreal 3 listen to me for a second.
Sony has confirmed, months ago now, that any game made in unreal 3, unreal 4, unity will run nativity, as easy as running the same games on windows. Meaning it won't even need to be ported, you just run unreal 3, and you're good.
That's it no hassel. The biggest feature of the PS4 it it's open hardware. If you make a game on your pc in unreal 3 *which is free btw*and pay the fees obviously, you can put your game for sale on sony's PS4. It's allready just that easy to release games on xbox or Vita, Android.
So step one stop freaking about dust running on PS4. Now good news! Unreal 3 can run in 1080p, the ps3 can't do this for dust. BUT, with 0 changes to the game the PS4 WILL RUN DUST IN 1080. This isn't a reveal it's a fact of the Software. It's a law of graphics rendering that can not be denied.
so yay!
Second, saving the features? They have 100 devs and will increase that number as we spend more money. Let me paint you the REAL goal this game is going for in 5 years. You will be able to freely explore planets for PvE. Every planet will ne randomly generated *think minecraft* Eve online itself was seeded with the number 42 :P Now whats awesome is in eve the planets were allready randomly generated. Every planet in eve is randomly generated height maps for it's normal maps already.
In five years you will be able to crawl on every foot of your drists that you own. Fighting and hunting down rouge drones to protect your biuldings and highway networks. They showed us the 3d models for highway components, meaning faster travel between bases for large 128v128 maps Or 128v Drones battles.
Now it gets better we get anti gravity combat, we get to kill eve ships from the inside, All guns are built however you want them from modular parts. Take a look all weapons are built on the same pieces already. Future proofing, smart.
Fighter jets, bombers, jetbikes, gaint tanks, Train Titans *in the eve art book in the dust section btw* Basically giant tanks you have to climb inside to kill. Sandbox null sec, Low sec is easy mode, high sec is random battles. It's brilliant. Oh and we are also getting Gaint robot mecha suits at some point too : )
CCP are going to make this game with a ten year vision already laid out. I look forward to breaching A titan in my Jovian Heavy Suit while wearing VR googles on my face.
And I look forward to the tears my invested isk it took me to take down a ship worth 15,000$ in real world money. From a free to play console game that has been getting raphical updates for the past 10 years.
You say it can't happen but I'm staring at eve right now. They said it wouldn't last ten years, but there is! |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.04.30 09:22:00 -
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Well well, I can only hope for this to happen :) @ crazy space 1. Nice posting +1 I play eve for about 4 or 5 years now, and IGÇÖm getting a little bored right now and IGÇÖm thinking about giving up on that. It would be so nice if I could connect to the world of new Eden true dust. Hope this game can make it. And I hope it wonGÇÖt be as time consuming as eve right now.
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
170
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Posted - 2013.04.30 09:55:00 -
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meri jin wrote:Well well, I can only hope for this to happen :) @ crazy space 1. Nice posting +1 I play eve for about 4 or 5 years now, and IGÇÖm getting a little bored right now and IGÇÖm thinking about giving up on that. It would be so nice if I could connect to the world of new Eden true dust. Hope this game can make it. And I hope it wonGÇÖt be as time consuming as eve right now.
As someone that keeps stating he is a Console Player and how things ccp is doing are not done on a console, i find it hard to imagin you played Eve for 5 years on a PC, you should already know how ccp operates from playing eve so yeah i call bs on that. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
1041
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:09:00 -
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Maybe he just hasn't been shown yet what CCP can do with dust, each build is admittedly a large improvement, if unfocused
Also I'm a console gamer, I've got nes, snes, n64, ps1, ps2, ds, vita, ps3 , and I played eve for 8 years.... |
meri jin
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.04.30 10:59:00 -
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My experience with CCP from playing EVE is:
- They DO give a sh*t about player base arguments and ideas. They are listening.
- Progress is slow, but steady. EVE Online is growing more in quality rather than quantity over time. (Improving existing features rather than including theme parks)
- CCP is very carefully in balancing and introducing new ships, modules etc.
- Great customer service, sense of humor and knowing the GÇ£languageGÇ¥ of their customers.
- They have done only view missteps, admit them and for the very most part, fix them. They kept almost the given ideas and promises. CCP is really learning from failure.
Well thatGÇÖs sums it up I think. Still Dust is not EVE and IGÇÖm not a fanboy. CCP first have to prove me that this game is going to be fun. The potential is huge, letGÇÖs hope this game manage to attract enough people so it can grow faster.
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