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Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 66	Posted - 2013.04.28 04:39:00 - [1] - Quote So for all us pilots heres so detailed stuf on the now (as in Uprising and release) and in the near future (1-12 months from now). to here and see the stuff I will talk about straight form the horses mouth heres some video: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208245 and heres gameplay, pictures do say 1 thuosand words so what would this vid show? (read bellow for what you might havemissed, AND DO POST WHAT I MISSED please ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7JJ-QWSx8 NOW (Uprising and release day, May 6th and May 14th): Assualt DS: The Assault DSes cannot soar as high as its brethren varients, the logistics and the standard DS, and although weaker its highly menueverable and gunshiped roled pilots will loose 2 passenger seats for the award of a small turret. note that the aim is based no your camara veiw, CCP plans to improve the DS camra veiw now and in the enar future. we get both galalnte and Caldari Assualt varients, unkown its tech lv. colision damage has been reduced and although it will tear your HP down a large notch it is fare considering, also its a big improvement off of the everyone dies small missle turrets are getting changes stat wise unkown if its a buff or nerf. small railgun turrets are getting a buff stat wise. small railgun turrets and missle turrets are most likely getting fixed phisics. (this line isn`t confrimed, maybe a CCP mod can help, but then again its their job to keep some secrets till the arrival). your passengers will kneel down on 1 knee with an arm lazily laying itself on the knee giving the appearence of the passenger observing trhough the window between the close bat door, this is a definitly improvement and transported roled DSes will like this. new camara/controlls, unkown if its changed entirely or if theres layouts to choose from. in the near future (1-12 months from now). triage modules such as the Remote Repair system and the Sheild Transporter will give us WP. transport roles will receive WP but not neccisary clear on the how they will receive. new racialt DSes leading up to all the current vareints (standard tier 1 DS, advance logiistics, and assault) for the Ammarr and Minimatar. possible turret race varients like the projectile turrets (cannon and artiyler) and laser turrets etc (note this might be in the distant future). modules effectivness buffed (more specifly the active boosters). in the distance future (12-18 months from now) new roles such as fighters (LAAs). what ever from the previous that didn`t make it before the 12-18 months.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6	Posted - 2013.04.28 06:02:00 - [2] - Quote So... My Myron isn't going to explode when I touch some power lines now?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 253	Posted - 2013.04.28 07:17:00 - [3] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: So... My Myron isn't going to explode when I touch some power lines now? not but you'll have 100 armor left if don't land completely flat. wait now its just all of your shields. rebuff explosive paint!
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 242	Posted - 2013.04.28 07:27:00 - [4] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: ...although weaker... So, dropshjips already have like 400 hp over a LAV. Have standard dropships been buffed or what? because otherwise the assault dropship will have LESS hp than a lav and a militia forge gun will one shot them.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 253	Posted - 2013.04.28 07:30:00 - [5] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: Shouper of BHD wrote: ...although weaker... So, dropships already have like 400 hp over a LAV. Have standard dropships been buffed or what? because otherwise the assault dropship will have LESS hp than a lav and a militia forge gun will one shot them. are you high? the base Myron is 1700 shield 1000 armor the base Charybdis is 1200 shield 600 armor. so even if they dropped 700 points off the shields it would still be higher.
Sev Alcatraz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 246	Posted - 2013.04.28 07:31:00 - [6] - Quote Lol if they nerf missiles again they might as well remove them, oh how I miss the days of old useing dropships as "gods foot" and crashing down atop unwary snipers...
Mr Gloo Gloo What The French CRONOS. 55	Posted - 2013.04.28 07:39:00 - [7] - Quote No WP for spawning on the MCC for Uprising ? No WP for shield transportation or remote armor repairer for Uprising ? Still useless for pilots WP gains ? I'm disapointed, are you sure about this ?
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1278	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:28:00 - [8] - Quote While not brilliant and far from what I would have liked to have gotten for uprising, at least we're actually getting some improvements. Rail guns getting fixed? Well at least they'll actually damage things now. And considering the generally woeful state of small missile turrets the change will probably be a buff.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 68	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:48:00 - [9] - Quote btw if you are unsure about me being unsure the links have CCP`s own words from FanFest but to save you the time yes I`m sure. The Assualt DSes are going to be weaker not all the varients, I was stating the charictoristecs about the Assualt varient sinc eits new. 'god`s foot' DSes can`t be justifed by saying great for killing snipers, lets just face it, then it was OP and abused, now its UP and soon to be fixed (thank you CCP for the ladder). I`m making a few new 1s in the OP so look for the 'EDIT:'
Mortedeamor IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 9	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:53:00 - [10] - Quote what specifically are are the doing to railguns?

gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1278	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:58:00 - [11] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: what specifically are are the doing to railguns? What they really need to do is improve the efficiency against everything, it's dismally low against vehicles, an increase to base damage probably wouldn't hurt either.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 68	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:05:00 - [12] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: what specifically are are the doing to railguns? well I can give a 100% honest answer but from xp as the pilot and gunner here is the most probable answer: fixed phisics when the DS is mobile and the gun fires. huge buff to direct damage. a little buff to splash but not much. the missle is a splash weapon turret that works as an all arounder butt he railgun is your AV turret, direct damage is its power house but it suffers against infrantry (the blaster is anti infrantry and is the least potent as AV, but that doesn`t mean my gunner shavn`t kills STD tanks with pro and unkown drivers before )
Texs Red SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 20	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:23:00 - [13] - Quote My concern is that dropships are not receiving any kind of buff to durability. In the uprising video at :23 abouts the gallente dropship they get in only looks to have about 2987 armor with 875 shields (which I can easily achieve now) and the "assault" dropship displayed at 2:20 only appeared to have 1344 shields and 882 armor. If that is the case then I am still going to be fly ing something equal to wet toilet paper...
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 51	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:27:00 - [14] - Quote Texs Red wrote: My concern is that dropships are not receiving any kind of buff to durability. In the uprising video at :23 abouts the gallente dropship they get in only looks to have about 2987 armor with 875 shields (which I can easily achieve now) and the "assault" dropship displayed at 2:20 only appeared to have 1344 shields and 882 armor. If that is the case then I am still going to be fly ing something equal to wet toilet paper... I'm pretty sure that those players didn't get to tinker with their fittings at all before the match. Just wait and see, I'm hopeful dropships won't be worse than before, but I don't think there will be much of an improvement.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 68	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:31:00 - [15] - Quote Texs Red wrote: My concern is that dropships are not receiving any kind of buff to durability. In the uprising video at :23 abouts the gallente dropship they get in only looks to have about 2987 armor with 875 shields (which I can easily achieve now) and the "assault" dropship displayed at 2:20 only appeared to have 1344 shields and 882 armor. If that is the case then I am still going to be fly ing something equal to wet toilet paper... he didn`t have any skills speced into what pilots spec into to stay alive, also even the STD tanks sucked, this is all relivent becuse CCP put bad modules onto the vehicles, althought the assualt varient of DSes are weaker then the others it won`t be to bad...hopefully. I got my Myron to 6.8k HP total with a 29.? sheild rep rate so I plan on enjoying myself on the Assualt varient, I would give up the sheild rep rate for damage mods since it has even more turretss though.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 67	Posted - 2013.04.28 16:38:00 - [16] - Quote Given the timeframe for when LAA's will possibly come out, I think I will just stick with being a ground pounder and save up SP for the pilot/LAA whenever it comes out. I have no interest in being a derpship pilot for a year while waiting on what I really want. Thanks for the info Shouper. Much appreciated.
Gloomy Cobra Hostile Acquisition Inc 2	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:14:00 - [17] - Quote Can any one clearify if we are gonna be able to use cloak for the dropships (or any other vehilces in general) I know lavs running around cloaked would be fun. Im kinda sad though cuz if you look at the sky both the transport and attack DS look the same (they could've just let us put a turret in on the regular ones right?) Oh well
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Unclaimed. 812	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:21:00 - [18] - Quote Gloomy Cobra wrote: Can any one clearify if we are gonna be able to use cloak for the dropships (or any other vehilces in general) I know lavs running around cloaked would be fun. Im kinda sad though cuz if you look at the sky both the transport and attack DS look the same (they could've just let us put a turret in on the regular ones right?) Oh well No cloak, only spawn cloak (cancels when you move).
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 69	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:40:00 - [19] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Gloomy Cobra wrote: Can any one clearify if we are gonna be able to use cloak for the dropships (or any other vehilces in general) I know lavs running around cloaked would be fun. Im kinda sad though cuz if you look at the sky both the transport and attack DS look the same (they could've just let us put a turret in on the regular ones right?) Oh well No cloak, only spawn cloak (cancels when you move). well I think CCP said their was for vehicles in either the enar or distante future....I`ll go check and post an edit if there will be one. when the LAAs come out my clan will release some new pilots and some old in as the Hawk squadran :D
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 69	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:42:00 - [20] - Quote tribal wyvern wrote: Gloomy Cobra wrote: Can any one clearify if we are gonna be able to use cloak for the dropships (or any other vehilces in general) I know lavs running around cloaked would be fun. Im kinda sad though cuz if you look at the sky both the transport and attack DS look the same (they could've just let us put a turret in on the regular ones right?) Oh well No cloak, only spawn cloak (cancels when you move). oh btw, the infantry cloak stays when you move but turns off after the timer has expired aswell as when you collide with an object, CCP playtests gives feedback that that doesn`t happen oftenly.

tribal wyvern ZionTCD Unclaimed. 812	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:44:00 - [21] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: tribal wyvern wrote: Gloomy Cobra wrote: Can any one clearify if we are gonna be able to use cloak for the dropships (or any other vehilces in general) I know lavs running around cloaked would be fun. Im kinda sad though cuz if you look at the sky both the transport and attack DS look the same (they could've just let us put a turret in on the regular ones right?) Oh well No cloak, only spawn cloak (cancels when you move). well I think CCP said their was for vehicles in either the enar or distante future....I`ll go check and post an edit if there will be one. when the LAAs come out my clan will release some new pilots and some old in as the Hawk squadran :D Cloaking is coming yes, just not with uprising
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1280	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:51:00 - [22] - Quote Is it just me or did that Prometheus have a higher base HP?I don't fly them so I'm not sure about they're base stats
Ten-Sidhe Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 463	Posted - 2013.04.28 17:56:00 - [23] - Quote There will be vehicle cloak, not for while though. The dev blog from last may, mentioned force recon dropships with cloak. Black ops hav would also cloak, and I assume the black ops lav will also. May be a long time before they are added.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 69	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:03:00 - [24] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: There will be vehicle cloak, not for while though. The dev blog from last may, mentioned force recon dropships with cloak. Black ops hav would also cloak, and I assume the black ops lav will also. May be a long time before they are added. I was hoping for a recon DS, aswell as a triage DS, but I`ll make a thread for them in request after may 14th since I would have more to talk about then.
Martin0 Brancaleone Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS. 246	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:13:00 - [25] - Quote gbghg wrote: Is it just me or did that Prometheus have a higher base HP? I don't fly them so I'm not sure about they're base stats Yes, but it have A LOT less powergrid and cpu than a standard dropship, so it's quite hard to fit anything.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 238	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:16:00 - [26] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: gbghg wrote: Is it just me or did that Prometheus have a higher base HP? I don't fly them so I'm not sure about they're base stats Yes, but it have A LOT less powergrid and cpu than a standard dropship, so it's quite hard to fit anything. So they changed the Prometheus and eryx so they don't have less Ehp by compared to base DS?
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 69	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:17:00 - [27] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: gbghg wrote: Is it just me or did that Prometheus have a higher base HP? I don't fly them so I'm not sure about they're base stats Yes, but it have A LOT less powergrid and cpu than a standard dropship, so it's quite hard to fit anything. shakes head, undo the HP buff on the logis and give them a buff in CPU/PG.
AEthis Badbaby Destruction Initiative Enterprise 0	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:27:00 - [28] - Quote ...what we're [not] getting
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1280	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:28:00 - [29] - Quote Martin0 Brancaleone wrote: gbghg wrote: Is it just me or did that Prometheus have a higher base HP? I don't fly them so I'm not sure about they're base stats Yes, but it have A LOT less powergrid and cpu than a standard dropship, so it's quite hard to fit anything. The question here is whether their CPU/PG has been changed since the HP buff. Because even if its the same it's some kinda improvement, we really need more info on dropship stats in uprising.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 69	Posted - 2013.04.28 18:29:00 - [30] - Quote AEthis Badbaby wrote: ...what we're [not] getting ah look at the bright side, we get more balancing to do, so we can keep talking

Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 70	Posted - 2013.04.29 21:37:00 - [31] - Quote Added to new things, the cloak and the drainer module both under "2nd EDIT" in the enar future section, head to the OP for more details.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 72	Posted - 2013.04.30 05:47:00 - [32] - Quote added more info "kudos to Jenza" is the title for the next edit to replace "edit/edit2" becuse jenza gave me this info after playing Uprising from fanfest.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 78	Posted - 2013.05.02 21:43:00 - [33] - Quote this video contains the stats and skills needed for the DSes, enjoy. http://www.dust514-france.fr/2013/05/videocast-tour-dhorizon-des-menus-duprising.html
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1337	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:06:00 - [34] - Quote CPU and PG look decent, so does the movement speed, and from the look of it if you removed that chassis mod the python would have at least a thousand armour, base shield for it is only 400 less than the myron too. Price is still 150,000 ISK too high IMO.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 78	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:20:00 - [35] - Quote gbghg wrote: CPU and PG look decent, so does the movement speed, and from the look of it if you removed that chassis mod the python would have at least a thousand armour, base shield for it is only 400 less than the myron too. Price is still 150,000 ISK too high IMO. I can get my Myron to 6.9k HP with a shield recharge rate of 30.20 so I`m going to have to dot he same with this baby and get ready to ambush, oh, BTW my Myron ambushed another proto tank....that's 1 less to worry about (sorry tankers). Also since the A DS are low flying and fly as high as current DSes do so maybe we can double backflip! (good to show off the skills to the newbies trying to hit us, it also is a good get out maneuver to camping blueberry's since they panic lol).
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1339	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:28:00 - [36] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: gbghg wrote: CPU and PG look decent, so does the movement speed, and from the look of it if you removed that chassis mod the python would have at least a thousand armour, base shield for it is only 400 less than the myron too. Price is still 150,000 ISK too high IMO. I can get my Myron to 6.9k HP with a shield recharge rate of 30.20 so I`m going to have to dot he same with this baby and get ready to ambush, oh, BTW my Myron ambushed another proto tank....that's 1 less to worry about (sorry tankers). Also since the A DS are low flying and fly as high as current DSes do so maybe we can double backflip! (good to show off the skills to the newbies trying to hit us, it also is a good get out maneuver to camping blueberry's since they panic lol). I'm going to speed tank mine, 1 m-type on the low slots for sure, might put a local diagnostic system down there as well, for the high afterburner, shield booster and shield extenders. In otherwords, I can and will replicate my current myron fit, or as close as I can with the extenders at any rate. Might have to settle for 2 supplemental rather than 1 supplemental and 2 aziotropics.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die 78	Posted - 2013.05.02 22:30:00 - [37] - Quote hello pilots, please read this important thread: "pilots we need to get our hands dirty" details will be in the thread, thanks!


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