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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3559	Posted - 2013.04.27 20:50:00 - [61] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Seems presumptuous to say Uprising is not ready for release unless you've actually played it. It would be a good idea though to make sure the tutorial and new player experience is as good as it can be before releasing it though, Uprising may have improved tutorials (maybe, maybe not), at the very least it is more user friendly, and has pretty graphics. Judging from the gameplay, its not ready. And considering the BASIC things that are listed on the "near future" list, yeah.... Can you be a bit more specific about gameplay elements and features needed for the game to have a successful launch in the eyes of reviewers?
Nstomper Disqualified 240	Posted - 2013.04.27 20:51:00 - [62] - Quote Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Free game. Continuous free updates. HTFU? competing against CoC and BF AND killzone? free doesn't matter, people will give it ONE try and leave. potential means s.hit against CoD BF, AND KZ all those games listed are **** , ccp is bringing a whole new flavor of console fps , not just some fps with a campaign and multiplayer with no story and no bridge between pc and console , if people dont appreciate what ccp is doing they dont need to be here,
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 31	Posted - 2013.04.27 20:57:00 - [63] - Quote If they keep it free to play, keep updating, keep lobbies full I'll keep with it. Not a CCP fanboy, by the way. I just want a shooter with 0:00 time devoted to storyline and continuous skill provement. Console games typically allow you to max out your character too quick and 100% storyline with another year waiting for speculation of a release of the glittery unicorn spinkled sequel where your experience doesn't transfer. I don't think its good enough for release, but I haven't played Uprising. I am pessimistic. I suspected Uprising would be the final beta build before a big, shiny PS4 full release version. From everything I see, it doesn't qualify as a complete game and doesn't deserve to be treated as such. As far as attracting past and future players, this is a PSN marketing problem. PSN store UI is awful. DL times are ridiculous. I look for demos and free games often, and didn't catch 514 til December or January. Dust Devs are on the right track. And it seems like if something is not working out, they do work to fix it (just not as fast as our instant serve society has come to expect)
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3721	Posted - 2013.04.27 20:59:00 - [64] - Quote If you are wondering max SP in uprising was about 255,000,000 SP.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 659	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:09:00 - [65] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: If you are wondering max SP in uprising was about 255,000,000 SP. Oooh! Goody!
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 659	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:09:00 - [66] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Seems presumptuous to say Uprising is not ready for release unless you've actually played it. It would be a good idea though to make sure the tutorial and new player experience is as good as it can be before releasing it though, Uprising may have improved tutorials (maybe, maybe not), at the very least it is more user friendly, and has pretty graphics. Judging from the gameplay, its not ready. And considering the BASIC things that are listed on the "near future" list, yeah.... Can you be a bit more specific about gameplay elements and features needed for the game to have a successful launch in the eyes of reviewers? As I said, everything in the "Near future" plans CCP had. Waiting one more year for Dust 514 to make proper first impressions will benefit this game a lot.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3559	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:13:00 - [67] - Quote SPECIFICS Do you just mean you want Dust to launch with more content? like the full set of racial dropsuits, vehicles, and rifles? Or is it some other near future thing?
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 659	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:15:00 - [68] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: SPECIFICS Do you just mean you want Dust to launch with more content? like the full set of racial dropsuits, vehicles, and rifles? Or is it some other near future thing? Something like that. There is more to it. Given more time the game will be polished more and more, I doubt in 3 months they managed to make Dust feel a lot better. The shooting isn't working well, and this is a First Person Shooter... They need to work on it to make it feel like an AAA shooter. Right now it feels like an indie project that they adopted and didn't improve much besides adding super servers behind it.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 96	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:15:00 - [69] - Quote Uprising is not full relese! Still Beta. So no need to worry about bad official reviews yet...
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 164	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:16:00 - [70] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Free game. Continuous free updates. HTFU? This is exactly the kind of WalMart philosophy that's gonna hurt this game. "people will play any sort of garbage as long as it's free'. I'd rather pay a 10$/month subscription fee and have quality product delivered to me than waste my free time on half-baked stuff.

Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 659	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:16:00 - [71] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Uprising is not full relese! Still Beta. So no need to worry about bad official reviews yet... I guess you missed the news.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3559	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:21:00 - [72] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: SPECIFICS Do you just mean you want Dust to launch with more content? like the full set of racial dropsuits, vehicles, and rifles? Or is it some other near future thing? Something like that. There is more to it. Given more time the game will be polished more and more, I doubt in 3 months they managed to make Dust feel a lot better. The shooting isn't working well, and this is a First Person Shooter... They need to work on it to make it feel like an AAA shooter. Right now it feels like an indie project that they adopted and didn't improve much besides adding super servers behind it. Dust has enough content for a decent launch with the new items Uprising brings, I don't see how reviewers could find the amount of guns, suits, and vehicles lacking; it is a solid start. As for the shooter mechanics (which is still vague and nonspecific), like I said before, it is too early to make the judgement since we haven't actually played Uprising yet.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 661	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:22:00 - [73] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: SPECIFICS Do you just mean you want Dust to launch with more content? like the full set of racial dropsuits, vehicles, and rifles? Or is it some other near future thing? Something like that. There is more to it. Given more time the game will be polished more and more, I doubt in 3 months they managed to make Dust feel a lot better. The shooting isn't working well, and this is a First Person Shooter... They need to work on it to make it feel like an AAA shooter. Right now it feels like an indie project that they adopted and didn't improve much besides adding super servers behind it. Dust has enough content for a decent launch with the new items Uprising brings, I don't see how reviewers could find the amount of guns, suits, and vehicles lacking; it is a solid start. As for the shooter mechanics (which is still vague and nonspecific), like I said before, it is too early to make the judgement since we haven't actually played Uprising yet. I'm talking about feeling. Go to another shooter and go back to Dust. Dust feels clunky and bad in general, just bleh. You can't be specific when it comes to overall feeling, because its overall. And I talked with ReGnUM on IRC, he said the game feels the same in that regard.
Al Lopestes Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:25:00 - [74] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: This game will be bashed to hell by reviewers and players alike, and unlike the PC market, the console market will just forget about this game and move to CoD #42134. Thanks for Jinxing it. :(
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:27:00 - [75] - Quote The players that will play Gears COD BF will play that regardless. That doesnt mean they wont play Dust. As others said they may play sporadically while allowing their char. to gain SP. And I agree with Dust Fiend - if the game is free then there really is no worry. For people saying they will pay a subscription - are you willing to continue to play when content delivery or balance issues arent coming down the pipe as fast as you want ?
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 661	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:29:00 - [76] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: The players that will play Gears COD BF will play that regardless. That doesnt mean they wont play Dust. As others said they may play sporadically while allowing their char. to gain SP. And I agree with Dust Fiend - if the game is free then there really is no worry. For people saying they will pay a subscription - are you willing to continue to play when content delivery or balance issues arent coming down the pipe as fast as you want ? I want public first impressions to be good. If you would actually read what I said you would know I'm not complaining about the speed.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3559	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:31:00 - [77] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: SPECIFICS Do you just mean you want Dust to launch with more content? like the full set of racial dropsuits, vehicles, and rifles? Or is it some other near future thing? Something like that. There is more to it. Given more time the game will be polished more and more, I doubt in 3 months they managed to make Dust feel a lot better. The shooting isn't working well, and this is a First Person Shooter... They need to work on it to make it feel like an AAA shooter. Right now it feels like an indie project that they adopted and didn't improve much besides adding super servers behind it. Dust has enough content for a decent launch with the new items Uprising brings, I don't see how reviewers could find the amount of guns, suits, and vehicles lacking; it is a solid start. As for the shooter mechanics (which is still vague and nonspecific), like I said before, it is too early to make the judgement since we haven't actually played Uprising yet. I'm talking about feeling. Go to another shooter and go back to Dust. Dust feels clunky and bad in general, just bleh. You can't be specific when it comes to overall feeling, because its overall. And I talked with ReGnUM on IRC, he said the game feels the same in that regard. Maybe its the lack of sensitivity acceleration with the controls for smooth aiming. I made a thread about that before, CCP was paying attention, but I don't know if they're planning on doing anything about it. Perhaps not enough people shared my views on the issue. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59526&find=unread Here is the thread in case you're intrested, tell me if its the issue with the feeling of the game.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 662	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:39:00 - [78] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Cat Merc wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: SPECIFICS Do you just mean you want Dust to launch with more content? like the full set of racial dropsuits, vehicles, and rifles? Or is it some other near future thing? Something like that. There is more to it. Given more time the game will be polished more and more, I doubt in 3 months they managed to make Dust feel a lot better. The shooting isn't working well, and this is a First Person Shooter... They need to work on it to make it feel like an AAA shooter. Right now it feels like an indie project that they adopted and didn't improve much besides adding super servers behind it. Dust has enough content for a decent launch with the new items Uprising brings, I don't see how reviewers could find the amount of guns, suits, and vehicles lacking; it is a solid start. As for the shooter mechanics (which is still vague and nonspecific), like I said before, it is too early to make the judgement since we haven't actually played Uprising yet. I'm talking about feeling. Go to another shooter and go back to Dust. Dust feels clunky and bad in general, just bleh. You can't be specific when it comes to overall feeling, because its overall. And I talked with ReGnUM on IRC, he said the game feels the same in that regard. Maybe its the lack of sensitivity acceleration with the controls for smooth aiming. I made a thread about that before, CCP was paying attention, but I don't know if they're planning on doing anything about it. Perhaps not enough people shared my views on the issue. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59526&find=unread Here is the thread in case you're intrested, tell me if its the issue with the feeling of the game. I don't know. But there are many many more problems that go to general feel. For example, ever brushed against a wall while running and then getting pushed back? Or being jumpy for no reason on a structure? Things like that happen far too often.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:41:00 - [79] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: The players that will play Gears COD BF will play that regardless. That doesnt mean they wont play Dust. As others said they may play sporadically while allowing their char. to gain SP. And I agree with Dust Fiend - if the game is free then there really is no worry. For people saying they will pay a subscription - are you willing to continue to play when content delivery or balance issues arent coming down the pipe as fast as you want ? I want public first impressions to be good. If you would actually read what I said you would know I'm not complaining about the speed. I read your rant and then skimmed the rest of the thread From what I've read and seen of Uprising - If that is launched as a free game with load times kept to a minimum and an extensive orientation play/ tutorial (explaining choice and consequences and what does what) then it can be successful. Anyone expecting challenging the big games is delusional, that also isnt a determining factor of success for CCP.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3560	Posted - 2013.04.27 21:41:00 - [80] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I don't know. But there are many many more problems that go to general feel. For example, ever brushed against a wall while running and then getting pushed back? Or being jumpy for no reason on a structure? Things like that happen far too often. Regnum confirmed these are still issues in Uprising?



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