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Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.04.27 17:41:00 -
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I have skilled in to dropshops and enjoy flying but i struggle to climb the leaderboard and only get assists for kills
Will there be bonuses for flying skill or people spawning into the ship just think it costs a lot of money to pilots for low reward |
Lord Echo Prime
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:31:00 -
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Very much agree, Big Boss! Something should be represented for the dropship pilots, to the aspect of the moblie cloning unit onboard the dropship and getting war points for it. The cost and the CPU/ PG requirements make it a bit costly. But when the map goes red and your entire side is using your droopship mobile uplink to get to and behind enemy lines, we get ZILCH for the unit. But when your dropship is destroyed, you pay full price, of course. Hopefully in the 'Uprising' , they address the dropship issue and make it worthwhile to even venture to use skill points for the high end dropship skills. Good issue, Big Boss XIII! |
Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.04.27 18:58:00 -
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CRU spawn ins should give 10 WP per spawn (that applys to all vehicles but the DS can hold more people so it has a fair advantage)
repping sheilds or armor should give 25 WP for each 75 sheild or armor repped aviavle from the armor repair tool, remote repair systems and sheild transporter modules. (vehicles have the obvies and clearly fare upper hand compared to the logi bro since logi vehicles are ment for more transport and repair with little kill support). Also a cap of 10k HP healed every 8 minutes, or a limate to pulses able to be used till recharged at a depot (the ladder I like more since repping freindly vehciles would be more vital since tanks would be slow to getting to them and would aprreatiate support form LAVs or DSs, while the lighter/faster vehicles could get their pulses back and then return to the convoy).
deployment should give points, if CCP can make it like in PlanetSide 2 where the following 60 secounds of hacks gives a 25% award to the pilot that would be nice but if not 10 WP for each deployment with a cap of 100 WP every 3 minutes. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:23:00 -
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It is a year that we close beta vets ask for WP for dropships. Answers we got from CCP (1 months ago, so fast eh?): 1- This is on our list of things to fix in the future updates. We are aware of the lack of WP rewards to players that donGÇÖt do kills. 2- We are looking at dropsuits that will give you more pilot bonuses in the future and more improvements to the general vehicle piloting role (potential to earn more war points etc)
I belive that the nasa will return on the moon before CCP fix dropships. I suggest you to use you SP somewhere else on may 6. |
Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:25:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:It is a year that we close beta vets ask for WP for dropships. Answers we got from CCP (1 months ago, so fast eh?): 1- This is on our list of things to fix in the future updates. We are aware of the lack of WP rewards to players that donGÇÖt do kills. 2- We are looking at dropsuits that will give you more pilot bonuses in the future and more improvements to the general vehicle piloting role (potential to earn more war points etc)
I belive that the nasa will return on the moon before CCP fix dropships. I suggest you to use you SP somewhere else on may 6.
thanks for the info but I will remain as an all out pilot, DSs, fighters etc. |
Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:21:00 -
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Just thought a ace DS pilot can change the battle and I have seen some absolute sick skills in dropships that should be rewarded ( backflip/barrel rolls to dodge forge cannons ) i was amazed that they can actually pilot that good I'm staying a pilot but ds needs some love |
Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:04:00 -
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Big Boss XIII wrote:Just thought a ace DS pilot can change the battle and I have seen some absolute sick skills in dropships that should be rewarded ( backflip/barrel rolls to dodge forge cannons ) i was amazed that they can actually pilot that good I'm staying a pilot but ds needs some love
heres a good pilot related talk through the first 20 minutes: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208245
Also I love having my gunners scream like girls on the mic when I pull off backflips |
Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:13:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:Big Boss XIII wrote:Just thought a ace DS pilot can change the battle and I have seen some absolute sick skills in dropships that should be rewarded ( backflip/barrel rolls to dodge forge cannons ) i was amazed that they can actually pilot that good I'm staying a pilot but ds needs some love heres a good pilot related talk through the first 20 minutes: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208245Also I love having my gunners scream like girls on the mic when I pull off backflips
Oh yherr tricks work a lot better with the afterburner and just look epic Love to gunn for some of you guys, join the chat channel M.T.A.C-Comm n ask us anytime I'm on |
Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:48:00 -
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Big Boss XIII wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:Big Boss XIII wrote:Just thought a ace DS pilot can change the battle and I have seen some absolute sick skills in dropships that should be rewarded ( backflip/barrel rolls to dodge forge cannons ) i was amazed that they can actually pilot that good I'm staying a pilot but ds needs some love heres a good pilot related talk through the first 20 minutes: http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/c/2208245Also I love having my gunners scream like girls on the mic when I pull off backflips Oh yherr tricks work a lot better with the afterburner and just look epic Love to gunn for some of you guys, join the chat channel M.T.A.C-Comm n ask us anytime I'm on
k, i`ll join it.
Also they nerfed the after burner so you can pick people up and 'eject' from the ground for quick/safe pick up from hot spots (thats in the DS description so...) and it no longer dodges swarms... and uses a slot with massive PG/CPU consuption so... yea useless inless they are going to make some that are usefull for the higher skill lvs, witch would be fine in that case. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:56:00 -
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Big Boss XIII wrote:I have skilled in to dropshops and enjoy flying but i struggle to climb the leaderboard and only get assists for kills
Will there be bonuses for flying skill or people spawning into the ship just think it costs a lot of money to pilots for low reward What a shock! This is exactly the same thing that has been going on since before Chromosome. I mean exactly the same problem for nearly six months.
Wow, who would have thought? Well, everybody that had looked at the many, many DS WP problem Posts. Which is why I own some drop ships but they are not worth bringing out unless I just feel like flying.
Oddly enough, CCP had stated they are investigating how to address this problem. One might think there could possibly be a hint on May 6th. I will check the release notes when they are finalized. I am not holding my breath though.
The DS WP limitation is tied to WP balance issues from Closed Beta and did not appear to be an easy problem to solve. They are also tied to some requests to lock seats in vehicles to Squad members and be able to forcibly eject Random Blues that overstay their welcome. |
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HeavySteelB52
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:07:00 -
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Learning to be a Dropship pilot myself I think I have an idea why Dropship and Dropship pilots have not gotten the attention the deserve. Maybe its because Dropships can't stay up long enough to be a real treat or really effect the out come of a battle. |
Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.04.28 04:44:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Big Boss XIII wrote:I have skilled in to dropshops and enjoy flying but i struggle to climb the leaderboard and only get assists for kills
Will there be bonuses for flying skill or people spawning into the ship just think it costs a lot of money to pilots for low reward What a shock! This is exactly the same thing that has been going on since before Chromosome. I mean exactly the same problem for nearly six months. Wow, who would have thought? Well, everybody that had looked at the many, many DS WP problem Posts. Which is why I own some drop ships but they are not worth bringing out unless I just feel like flying. Oddly enough, CCP had stated they are investigating how to address this problem. One might think there could possibly be a hint on May 6th. I will check the release notes when they are finalized. I am not holding my breath though. The DS WP limitation is tied to WP balance issues from Closed Beta and did not appear to be an easy problem to solve. They are also tied to some requests to lock seats in vehicles to Squad members and be able to forcibly eject Random Blues that overstay their welcome.
check my enw thread, it states what you migth be wanting them to say but before may 6th, the thread is what us pilots need to know (what were getting).
no, people complained it wa sbeing abused and easy enough was put a cap on WP gained but their wasn`t enough tiem in beta appearently and they wrote it of and moved on, pilots pcuhed for it and we do have what we want (see thread). |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.28 07:17:00 -
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HeavySteelB52 wrote: Maybe its because Dropships can't stay up long enough to be a real treat or really effect the out come of a battle.[:? They "once upon a time" were nine, good tanking ability and responsive controls. The only OP thing was the missile turrets that could one shot everyone with the splash damage. Swarms were also a bit lacking, they were really stupid.
Any normal people would have just nerfed the missile splash damage and fixed swarms right? Well, CCP nerfed missile turrets into oblivion as they are now, buffed the swarmo to the currently 180-¦ turning missiles of doom AND nerfed dropships PG and CPU and slowed them down. As if it wasn't enough the only way to avoid swarm launchers, the afterburner, was nerfed too a few weeks ago.
Oh yeah, CCP buffed AV too, without thinking about dropships for a second.
In addition to all these "awesome balancing" stupid blueberries NEVER get out of the dropship when you are overing near an objective and NEVER shoot av.
If at least CCP buffed the splash radius (not damage) of small missile turrets dropships could at least get some defenses while landing troops and some WP for assists. Anyone know if small missiles turrets got some love in uprising? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.04.28 07:22:00 -
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Martin0 Brancaleone wrote:HeavySteelB52 wrote: Maybe its because Dropships can't stay up long enough to be a real treat or really effect the out come of a battle.[:? They "once upon a time" were nine, good tanking ability and responsive controls. The only OP thing was the missile turrets that could one shot everyone with the splash damage. Swarms were also a bit lacking, they were really stupid. Any normal people would have just nerfed the missile splash damage and fixed swarms right? Well, CCP nerfed missile turrets into oblivion as they are now, buffed the swarmo to the currently 180-¦ turning missiles of doom AND nerfed dropships PG and CPU and slowed them down. As if it wasn't enough the only way to avoid swarm launchers, the afterburner, was nerfed too a few weeks ago. Oh yeah, CCP buffed AV too, without thinking about dropships for a second. In addition to all these "awesome balancing" stupid blueberries NEVER get out of the dropship when you are overing near an objective and NEVER shoot av. If at least CCP buffed the splash radius (not damage) of small missile turrets dropships could at least get some defenses while landing troops and some WP for assists. Anyone know if small missiles turrets got some love in uprising? not in the way your thinking. btw CCP doesn't call the after burner a nerf and it really isn't a nerf. |
Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.04.28 09:54:00 -
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I know there is going to be a pilot drop suit but have no idea what attributes it will have and i always feel like flying pull a ship in when i can afford it also i understand people shouting nerf drop ships because they cant fly they or kill them but thats the point of skillpoints want av use a heavy want to do damage with a swam skill it up ..
With the attack dropship and pilot dropsuit maby a buff to damage resistance so we can actually pick people up out of hot-zones would be good for is but just gotta keep flying for now as you can only get better :)
And like i said before if anyone needs a gunner add us up and i will help u out i got a mic to |
Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:27:00 -
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also to the DS / missle tuttet nerfed comemnt, all turret skils were recuded from +5% damage per skill lv to +3%. this will stay in uprising but ALL toehr skills that aren`t proficincy will loose that +x% ammount of damage per lv.
yea the AB are pretty useless now.
and the Pilot DS gives alot more WP for thoose whom are in vehicles so pilot+DS in the enxt 1-12 motnsh will actualy be usefull! |
Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:24:00 -
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With the bigger maps you will need a dropship just hope there armour increases just a bit so you can acctually land in a hotspot n get your team out |
Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:42:00 -
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May 6th, they are giving WP for Dropships with CRUs. As a dedicated Dropship Pilot (I run the current proto one), we definitely need more love there. I can get up to around 5th place on the leaderboards consistently (being the squad lead and defense ordering my Dropship tends to bring in a pretty reliable stream of points to myself and my Corp/Squad mates. Not enough, but helps get some ISK for our job. |
Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:21:00 -
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Still no bonuses for wp and pilots
Some times i think you don't want players to fly The tanks are absolute beasts and i got shot up by one camping in the red zone with a rail cannon i couldn't get to him and as soon as i stop to try help the team i get shot down
while low altitude area suppression i got tagged up by a mass driver i was like how are they so effective against armour that also dropped me as i had no afterburner boost it was active i just didn't get away fast enough
is it just me who put everything in to dropships
So i am useless on the ground as i run militia gear so i am now useless in this game -_-
I still play and i still fly i just think the pilot community needs some serious rework |
Gringo Nos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.12 14:12:00 -
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CCP, we've been asking for dropship WP, buffs, price drops, something, anything for ages! A proper answer please? When are you going to sort it out and how? |
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Shouper of BHD
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Posted - 2013.05.12 14:26:00 -
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Gringo Nos wrote:CCP, we've been asking for dropship WP, buffs, price drops, something, anything for ages! A proper answer please? When are you going to sort it out and how?
from the 2013 Fanfest they said in the "next 1-12 months" aswell as 'near future."
I`m hoping/expecting next major update (not release update). |
Big Boss XIII
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2013.05.13 17:09:00 -
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Its been confirmed that they have put some thought to it and as far as i know they are acting upon introducing wp soon for scanning spawning and dropping effective members also dropship countermeasures are confirmed .. Cant wait to see what they come up with |
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