Free suits may be necessary for new players without any money whatsoever, and they have instant battles to get their foot in the door.

I don't see why they should be allowed in FW or PC however. If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk. Or at the very least some kind of risk. Failure to do this would be very un-New Eden.

In short, please let FW be a pub game mode where I don't have to worry about my team being stacked up with players who are so ridiculously terrible they aren't even aware that the marketplace exists.

Thank you.

well tbqh Himiko u wouldnt and shouldnt be playing FW solo anyway considering u can stack ur team with ppl from SyN and EoN.
I dont think worrying about bluedots will be an issue in FW lol

I don't see why they should be disallowed; if you want to use a crappy free fit that puts you at a disadvantage, then you should be able to use it.

I don't see why they should be disallowed; if you want to use a crappy free fit that puts you at a disadvantage, then you should be able to use it.

Freedom of choice includes stupidity in fittings, tactics and personality.

Let the hordes of crappy fits of today become the ocean of tears of tomorrow!

Free suits may be necessary for new players without any money whatsoever, and they have instant battles to get their foot in the door.

I don't see why they should be allowed in FW or PC however. If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk. Or at the very least some kind of risk. Failure to do this would be very un-New Eden.

In short, please let FW be a pub game mode where I don't have to worry about my team being stacked up with players who are so ridiculously terrible they aren't even aware that the marketplace exists.

Thank you.

Just a pointless idea, free suits are generally high risk as it is. Not in terms of emmediate isk, but in long term isk. If a player is running a free suit in a match that's great! but it means his suit is deffinitly not as good as someone who put atleast some isk into it. Therefore the chances of him dying are significantly higher. TBH that risks the whole operation as a person who cant stay alive in a match is about as good as nobody being there. In short, if somebody wants to run a free suit into FW or PC that's fine. Besides banning "free suits" is a bit of broad term isn't it?? I mean really.... just stick one militia grenade on and its not free anymore. "well then set a limit to how little the suit can be worth" again.... Pointless. Devs shouldn't be worrying about something like this that has almost zero impact on the game to begin with.

But a single free militia suit can and actively does kill people in the beefiest proto armor. It happens, and it shouldn't.

If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk.

I make more isk running free suits than I do running my standard heavy type-II fits.

And thats with an average of around 22/3 or so.

So no, it's not pointless. Some people are dead-set on being worthless members of society and zerging you down with their zombie militia horde. You can slay dozens of the bastards but eventually you will run out of ammo.

Perhaps you don't realize this yet, but a free suit means no personal risk. Not immediate, not long term. They are guaranteed to do nothing other than gain. They don't care if they die. They should.

Risk free environments are for pussies.





Clone inside of rookie ship.

Not free.

, nor can it hope to catch up to any fast ship. You would need like 50 people in rookie ships to accomplish anything.


But a single free militia suit can and actively does kill people in the beefiest proto armor. It happens, and it shouldn't.

Get rid of all militia gear and replace it with the weapons lab and a training simulator.

The only gear usable in actual matches should be destructible.

Treat BPO items such as the dragonfly like fused locus grenades; each BPO is turned into 50 copies, or reimbursed in the case of militia BPOs that were bought with AUR post AUR cost increase.

Starting suits are the equivalent of fully standard fit Basic medium frame suits. You start with the skills to use it. Your starting suit is replenished to 25 copies at the end of every match if you have lost any.

It would lead to a lot of (self entitled) whining, but I wouldn't mind playing that game.

Game design question:

What happens when someone is completely broke, and want to play?

Then they have their 25 starting suits to play with. It's similar to a BPO, but losing one impacts the value of a match. The reason for the number limit is to limit ISK reward min-maxing, since lost suits are worth about as much as a low end standard suit. After the match, if you have less than 25 starting suits, they are replenished.

The vast majority of people (even complete newbs) won't die 25 times in an average match (implied matchmaking improvements). There's just realistically not enough time in a match to die that many times if you're putting in an effort not to die (eg. not re-spawning at the same, camped, CRU for 5 minutes straight).

Is that a good answer?

Wont happen

You can use an ibis in FW if you really want to doesnt mean you will do anything

Hell whack on a prop mod and a scram/web and you can tackle someone for someone else

You can use an ibis in FW if you really want to doesnt mean you will do anything

No, you can't.

There are restrictions to rookie ships in FW plexes so it only makes sense that militia gear would not be allowed to be used in FW DUST matches.

Sorry, i didn-¦t quite understand.

I bought a merc pack, got these 25 dragonfly bpc, and that-¦s it, just joined the game.

I died 15 times in a battle and our team lost.

What happens next, do i only have 10 suits left or another 25 for battle?

And, if i die 25 times in battle, what happens? I can-¦t return for the match and will get kicked out ?

T1 frigs have ther own plex

Plus it can be used in basic small gang or even large gang fights, sure you may die in a blaze from an alpha strike but if you were able to web and scram some long enough to get a 2nd point on it then job done

I'm going need a link to where anyone said FW had greater rewards because last I heard the rewards are going to be equal to pubs.

A rookie ship cannot enter a FW plex.

Meh it can still fight

What happens if you delete your starter fits and then manage to go broke?

What happens if you delete your starter fits and then manage to go broke?

FW *is* pubs. They are just splitting up squads and solo queues.

Players will be able to pick sides when joining Faction Warfare contracts in the next update which will open more options for RP events as well.

However I believe you can choose a side when entering a FW match. If this is the case, you could easily get a couple of squads with you (and with the new Uprising not needing UVTs you could all just sit in the same custom channel) and queue up at similar times and choose the same side.

Therefore it is NOT pubs. Can you choose a side in pubs?

I remember devs saying it but i gotta find the quote. Unless someone has that bookmarked?

This is correct; you can pick a side in FW matches. However, they are also pub matches. Pub = public, as in anyone can join.