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Schalac 17 D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 25	Posted - 2013.04.27 12:37:00 - [31] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: You can use an ibis in FW if you really want to doesnt mean you will do anything No, you can't. There are restrictions to rookie ships in FW plexes so it only makes sense that militia gear would not be allowed to be used in FW DUST matches. T1 frigs have ther own plex Plus it can be used in basic small gang or even large gang fights, sure you may die in a blaze from an alpha strike but if you were able to web and scram some long enough to get a 2nd point on it then job done A rookie ship cannot enter a FW plex.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1313	Posted - 2013.04.27 12:43:00 - [32] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk. I'm going need a link to where anyone said FW had greater rewards because last I heard the rewards are going to be equal to pubs. FW is pubs. They are just splitting up squads and solo queues.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 294	Posted - 2013.04.27 12:45:00 - [33] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: You can use an ibis in FW if you really want to doesnt mean you will do anything No, you can't. There are restrictions to rookie ships in FW plexes so it only makes sense that militia gear would not be allowed to be used in FW DUST matches. T1 frigs have ther own plex Plus it can be used in basic small gang or even large gang fights, sure you may die in a blaze from an alpha strike but if you were able to web and scram some long enough to get a 2nd point on it then job done A rookie ship cannot enter a FW plex. Meh it can still fight
Crash Monster Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2013.04.27 12:49:00 - [34] - Quote What happens if you delete your starter fits and then manage to go broke?
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.04.27 12:49:00 - [35] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: You can use an ibis in FW if you really want to doesnt mean you will do anything No, you can't. There are restrictions to rookie ships in FW plexes so it only makes sense that militia gear would not be allowed to be used in FW DUST matches. T1 frigs have ther own plex Plus it can be used in basic small gang or even large gang fights, sure you may die in a blaze from an alpha strike but if you were able to web and scram some long enough to get a 2nd point on it then job done A rookie ship cannot enter a FW plex. Meh it can still fight It also dies if it tries.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1313	Posted - 2013.04.27 12:52:00 - [36] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: What happens if you delete your starter fits and then manage to go broke? You can't delete the suit, only the fit. Just remake it.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.04.27 13:00:00 - [37] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: What happens if you delete your starter fits and then manage to go broke? What I'm describing is similar to something that already happens in dust. Try as you might, you will always have: - 1 Militia assault suit - 1 Militia shotgun - 1 Militia scrambler pistol - 1 Militia Nanohive - 1 Militia grenade If you put them into a fitting, lose them in a match, and delete the fitting during the match, you get them back after. What I described is a way to replace BPO, which are detrimental to dust. The only difference is that instead of 1, it's 25, and instead of 5 different items, it's just the suit, which has all the modules yellow bracketed like the current BPO. To answer your question; deleting a fitting doesn't remove it from your assets (this is the same as how things work now). You still have the starter fits even if they don't show up in your fittings list. e: I only noticed the militia gear thing because of my slight OCD; I like having clean assets lists, so i routinely trash items by killing myself. Much to my dismay I can't get rid of the above items. Probably a leftover from pre-BPO builds.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 127	Posted - 2013.04.27 13:34:00 - [38] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk. I'm going need a link to where anyone said FW had greater rewards because last I heard the rewards are going to be equal to pubs. FW is pubs. They are just splitting up squads and solo queues. However I believe you can choose a side when entering a FW match. If this is the case, you could easily get a couple of squads with you (and with the new Uprising not needing UVTs you could all just sit in the same custom channel) and queue up at similar times and choose the same side. Therefore it is NOT pubs. Can you choose a side in pubs? I remember devs saying it but i gotta find the quote. Unless someone has that bookmarked? EDIT: Here it is: CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Players will be able to pick sides when joining Faction Warfare contracts in the next update which will open more options for RP events as well.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 26	Posted - 2013.04.27 13:36:00 - [39] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk. I'm going need a link to where anyone said FW had greater rewards because last I heard the rewards are going to be equal to pubs. FW is pubs. They are just splitting up squads and solo queues. However I believe you can choose a side when entering a FW match. If this is the case, you could easily get a couple of squads with you (and with the new Uprising not needing UVTs you could all just sit in the same custom channel) and queue up at similar times and choose the same side. Therefore it is NOT pubs. Can you choose a side in pubs? I remember devs saying it but i gotta find the quote. Unless someone has that bookmarked? This is correct; you can pick a side in FW matches. However, they are also pub matches. Pub = public, as in anyone can join.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 127	Posted - 2013.04.27 13:57:00 - [40] - Quote J-Lewis wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If you're going to play for bigger reward you should have to take bigger risk. I'm going need a link to where anyone said FW had greater rewards because last I heard the rewards are going to be equal to pubs. FW is pubs. They are just splitting up squads and solo queues. However I believe you can choose a side when entering a FW match. If this is the case, you could easily get a couple of squads with you (and with the new Uprising not needing UVTs you could all just sit in the same custom channel) and queue up at similar times and choose the same side. Therefore it is NOT pubs. Can you choose a side in pubs? I remember devs saying it but i gotta find the quote. Unless someone has that bookmarked? This is correct; you can pick a side in FW matches. However, they are also pub matches. Pub = public, as in anyone can join. Pub = public. I knew that. Why did I forget that. Derp. Anyways, I was getting into the thinking where a pub match is more like a "pub" or a bar. Go in, do what you need to do, get out and be rewarded. Of course these rewards are very low. However, I believe some people out there are going to really want to do FW but not just because you are instantly joining a match. Many people, even those running solo, want to represent a certain side or faction. I also heard (probably from the Fanfest stream?) that as pilots were plexing in EVE, those battle would open up for the certain area on the ground. So people joining these will at least have a general idea that something is at stake. While I think a restriction on free suits would be great, in the long run I don't think it would be a good idea. As stated before, what if I'm a new but NOT INEXPERIENCED player entered into FW to help out my faction - we'll say I have about 2 million SP and invested into some of the core skills so I'm not a pushover - and say for example I run out of suits? I wouldn't be able to participate in the battle anymore? Get auto-kicked and not receive any compensation for attempting to fight? Also, would we be considered "free"? I believe what the OP doesn't want is people filling a match running around in MILITIA gear. But while some have BPOs of militia gear, what about the people that don't have BPOs? Technically, if I changed out a module from a BPO to an ISK bought militia BPO my suit is no longer "free" but it's no better than it was before. And remember, some BPOs aren't bad either. Raven Assault? Sever Logi? Exile Assault Rifle? Toxin Submachine (or Syndicate)? These are all level 1 gear. AND they are slightly better than the militia gear. However, let's say you limited that, and now I can't participate because my type I BPO wasn't bought from the marketplace with ISK. But the fully stocked militia guy over there can because he bought all his stuff with ISK. However, his combat ability is statistically worse than mine (going STRICTLY off statistic of dropsuits, modules, and weapons; not player skill). In any case, I think I know where you are going with this OP and I like it, but I'm finding holes were people may exploit/ruin a victory because they are rolling in with inferior gear. Or do you simply want to know you are hurting wallets when you are queuing up in FW?



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