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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:29:00 -
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i give it maybe a month or 2.
then comes some random "update" and with it will be the
" in order to make the new patch functional, we will be resetting all stats to 0 and all isk to 0. this is needed to balance the game for all the players who didn't get a chance to play during the beta. we thank you for your continued support"
remember: they said this was the last reset for the BETA. and they have kept their word. but once the game goes retail and sales are the main focus and not devving, then they will have kept their word legally about that BETA reset and will still reset the stats and isk based on some text buried in the EULA as well as the fact that they no longer are obligated to keep their word on the beta reset because they will have done so and now, being in retail, they don't owe us anything.
how mad are you guys gonna be when it happens?
Peace B |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:31:00 -
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Normally, this shouldn't happen because the company don't wanna **** people off.
But in this case we are talking about CCP. |
boba's fetta
Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers
25
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:34:00 -
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yes we are talking about ccp. the company who backed down from intended changes to eve because the player base were unhappy.
please ffs leave this game forever and go play an ea game where your moaning and whining is perfectly justified.
there should be a hidden forum for half wits like you. spkr4thedead can be its mod. |
Noraa Anderson
Bojo's School of the Trades
194
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:38:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:there should be a hidden forum for half wits like you. spkr4thedead can be its mod.
LEL |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
370
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:12:00 -
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And why would they care about retail sales when it's free to play? CCP want to keep their playerbase happy, not scrap for the one timers who hop from game to game with 20 second attention spans. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
205
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:17:00 -
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aurum sales. not retail "game" sales. duh. no really. duh. you think i don't know what i'm talking about? up your meds.
just asking questions. i can tell by your answers you're gonna be REAL pissed when it happens. just thinking about it puts so much sand in the vage all you can do is go after the op, not the actual thing itself.
ad hom... the last defense of those with no agument left.
Peace B |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
202
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:25:00 -
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if they reset our sp then the people who has over 10 million sp will say good bye to dust. but ccp wins because they got their money from aurum, it is one of the reasons why some people dont like free to play games because the system that is based off is kinda crooked. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
155
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:28:00 -
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Meh, even if it did happens i wouldnt care. As long as i get the Aurum i paid for back there isnt anything to be pissed about. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
227
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:29:00 -
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id quit lol |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1238
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:33:00 -
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Reset is no big deal, been through a few during the closed beta. I really doubt there will be another at this point though. |
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Chemical Death
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
21
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:36:00 -
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a dollar says we never leave beta |
TiMeSpLiT--TeR
Planetary Response Organisation
362
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:42:00 -
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Isn't re-allocate the SP? If They're going to reset us to 0, I don't mine. As long CCP refund my Aurum for every dollar I spent, then I will re-use them. |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
194
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Posted - 2013.04.24 16:49:00 -
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Not going to happen. We are already moving to an integration with EVE with PC. If they reset everything then they will severely screw up PC holdings because it will reset the corps again as well. Can you imagine the kittenstorm that would cause? |
Stevez WingYip
The Zenith Solari Army
15
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Posted - 2013.04.24 17:52:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:i give it maybe a month or 2.
then comes some random "update" and with it will be the
" in order to make the new patch functional, we will be resetting all stats to 0 and all isk to 0. this is needed to balance the game for all the players who didn't get a chance to play during the beta. we thank you for your continued support"
remember: they said this was the last reset for the BETA. and they have kept their word. but once the game goes retail and sales are the main focus and not devving, then they will have kept their word legally about that BETA reset and will still reset the stats and isk based on some text buried in the EULA as well as the fact that they no longer are obligated to keep their word on the beta reset because they will have done so and now, being in retail, they don't owe us anything.
how mad are you guys gonna be when it happens?
Peace B
By playing the beta you agree to this possibility. Also a sp/isk reset (I doubt it will happen) would be a good thing to allow the new players to be more even, and bad players won't get carried much by their SP. Most people complaining about any form of resets that again, I doubt will happen are usually bad players worried that they can't easy faceroll because they have more stats. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
44
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Posted - 2013.04.24 17:54:00 -
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Besides good luck with that. There will be other games just waiting to be picked up. Half of the population will just disappear if we're hit with a reset.
But yeah, this is CCP and all bets are off. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
21
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Posted - 2013.04.24 17:59:00 -
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"Retail? You want to talk about retail?" ~Jim Mora |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
432
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:21:00 -
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Apparently even Bassmeat can only whinge about V2K for so long and must result to hopping aboard the failtrain chugging along to fail town population fail troll and bassmeat.
If it happens it happens but we get all of our aur back... thats a lot of aur for me... hooray! if not ill keep on keepin on. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
236
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:23:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:Apparently even Bassmeat can only whinge about V2K for so long and must result to hopping aboard the failtrain chugging along to fail town population fail troll and bassmeat.
If it happens it happens but we get all of our aur back... thats a lot of aur for me... hooray! if not ill keep on keepin on. i wish there was V2K in the forums or a dislike button. its really needed. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2593
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:35:00 -
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Sorry B, you still suck at being relevant.
Keep working on it though - you'll get there eventually. |
Osiris Ausare
TeamPlayers EoN.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:46:00 -
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As some of the other comments have pointed out, the revenue for this game is generated by Aurum sales, without it this game would have no ability to function.
If in fact CCP does a full reset they could potentially cause the game to fail through players leaving and raging on the forums. However, CCP is in a tight spot as how do you deal with new players who never played the beta ( this was stated by a previous comment) coming in when the game goes live? There will be a huge gap between Beta and non-Beta players. In fact there is already a discrepancy between closed and open beta players. Now add the learning curve on top of that and you have a precarious situation that might stunt the growth of this game.
Only time will tell if this game succeeds. Will FPS players want to switch from COD and Battlefield to Dust? How will Dust continue to compete against Planetside 2? Furthermore, when will Dust have a presence on Twitch.tv, an extremely popular video game streaming site that could potentially increase interest in Dust.
I know I have bounced around on this response, however, Dust is in a very interesting position. All I can hope is that new players find this game as addicting as I do, and don't give up when they get ROFL stomped (one last thing, the only reason I was able to survive those first few weeks, was that I came from Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, two soul crushing games that forced you to learn how to deal with intense enemies, as well constantly dying. Both games taught me patience, as well as how to adapt to hard situations. The reason I brought this up, is that not very many video game players would have played these games and learned how to deal with extreme situations).
Osiris. |
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Nazz'Dragg
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
6
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:54:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:i give it maybe a month or 2.
then comes some random "update" and with it will be the
" in order to make the new patch functional, we will be resetting all stats to 0 and all isk to 0. this is needed to balance the game for all the players who didn't get a chance to play during the beta. we thank you for your continued support"
remember: they said this was the last reset for the BETA. and they have kept their word. but once the game goes retail and sales are the main focus and not devving, then they will have kept their word legally about that BETA reset and will still reset the stats and isk based on some text buried in the EULA as well as the fact that they no longer are obligated to keep their word on the beta reset because they will have done so and now, being in retail, they don't owe us anything.
how mad are you guys gonna be when it happens?
Peace B While you maybe right. It going to be a long bloody time away. The game to bloody bugged at present to be remotely near the finished mark. Like if you restock or alter any of your dropsuits in battle without being deployed. You'll get the loading screen spining circle of death and you will need to reset to clear the bug. |
Turan chiron
Raymond James Corp
1
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:54:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:As some of the other comments have pointed out, the revenue for this game is generated by Aurum sales, without it this game would have no ability to function.
If in fact CCP does a full reset they could potentially cause the game to fail through players leaving and raging on the forums. However, CCP is in a tight spot as how do you deal with new players who never played the beta ( this was stated by a previous comment) coming in when the game goes live? There will be a huge gap between Beta and non-Beta players. In fact there is already a discrepancy between closed and open beta players. Now add the learning curve on top of that and you have a precarious situation that might stunt the growth of this game.
Only time will tell if this game succeeds. Will FPS players want to switch from COD and Battlefield to Dust? How will Dust continue to compete against Planetside 2? Furthermore, when will Dust have a presence on Twitch.tv, an extremely popular video game streaming site that could potentially increase interest in Dust.
I know I have bounced around on this response, however, Dust is in a very interesting position. All I can hope is that new players find this game as addicting as I do, and don't give up when they get ROFL stomped (one last thing, the only reason I was able to survive those first few weeks, was that I came from Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, two soul crushing games that forced you to learn how to deal with intense enemies, as well constantly dying. Both games taught me patience, as well as how to adapt to hard situations. The reason I brought this up, is that not very many video game players would have played these games and learned how to deal with extreme situations).
Osiris.
Great games both and yeah that totally applies here. Die and die again lol |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
371
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Posted - 2013.04.24 19:11:00 -
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CCP get most of their aurum sales from vet players not newbies. In free to play games players generally spend very little or nothing at all until they've spent a fair bit of time to find out if they actually like them or not. Whales are what Will keep the money flowing, so you can quit your poor attempt at scaremongering with nonsense about CCP pandering to brand new players who may never spend a cent on this game. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
206
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Posted - 2013.04.24 23:34:00 -
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"CCP get most of their aurum sales from vet players not newbies"
i'm a vet and haven't spent a dime. i know many vets who are the same. most of the vets are smart enough not to spend and good enough not to have to.
judging by how upset the idea gets you guys i can only imagine how they will handle it when the time comes.
my guess is they are gonna give you the old "yeah, whatever kid." and do it anyway.
and you'll all whine about it for a while and then just accept it and continue playing.
thanks for the feedback
Peace B |
Kiro Justice
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
21
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Posted - 2013.04.24 23:40:00 -
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OP is a whiner, historically, on many game forums. He's also a pessimist and an elitist. I'm spreading knowledge...Take it as you will. (Seriously google search his name) |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
669
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Posted - 2013.04.24 23:45:00 -
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By this logic they'll reset SP every 6-7 months.
There will always be vets and newbies. CCP knows this. They wouldn't **** off the people who've already supported this game and helped in its development to delay the inevitable. It makes no sense when you look at it.
Great troll thread, though. It really got some peoples goat. |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
771
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:27:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:i give it maybe a month or 2.
then comes some random "update" and with it will be the
" in order to make the new patch functional, we will be resetting all stats to 0 and all isk to 0. this is needed to balance the game for all the players who didn't get a chance to play during the beta. we thank you for your continued support"
remember: they said this was the last reset for the BETA. and they have kept their word. but once the game goes retail and sales are the main focus and not devving, then they will have kept their word legally about that BETA reset and will still reset the stats and isk based on some text buried in the EULA as well as the fact that they no longer are obligated to keep their word on the beta reset because they will have done so and now, being in retail, they don't owe us anything.
how mad are you guys gonna be when it happens?
Peace B
It won't bother me at all. I've had fun getting to where i am and I'll have fun doing it all over again. But it won't ever go to 'retail' because in order to do that there has to be a price (just me being technical |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2109
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:34:00 -
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All I need to say is this. Keep dreaming. |
Esteban Advincola
Planetary Response Organisation
13
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:41:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:As some of the other comments have pointed out, the revenue for this game is generated by Aurum sales, without it this game would have no ability to function.
If in fact CCP does a full reset they could potentially cause the game to fail through players leaving and raging on the forums. However, CCP is in a tight spot as how do you deal with new players who never played the beta ( this was stated by a previous comment) coming in when the game goes live? There will be a huge gap between Beta and non-Beta players. In fact there is already a discrepancy between closed and open beta players. Now add the learning curve on top of that and you have a precarious situation that might stunt the growth of this game.
Only time will tell if this game succeeds. Will FPS players want to switch from COD and Battlefield to Dust? How will Dust continue to compete against Planetside 2? Furthermore, when will Dust have a presence on Twitch.tv, an extremely popular video game streaming site that could potentially increase interest in Dust.
I know I have bounced around on this response, however, Dust is in a very interesting position. All I can hope is that new players find this game as addicting as I do, and don't give up when they get ROFL stomped (one last thing, the only reason I was able to survive those first few weeks, was that I came from Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, two soul crushing games that forced you to learn how to deal with intense enemies, as well constantly dying. Both games taught me patience, as well as how to adapt to hard situations. The reason I brought this up, is that not very many video game players would have played these games and learned how to deal with extreme situations).
Osiris. I agree with you 100%. Players come here and play this as if this was COD will have a hard time, but eventually they'll learn just like all of us did. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
91
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:48:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:"CCP get most of their aurum sales from vet players not newbies"
i'm a vet and haven't spent a dime. i know many vets who are the same. most of the vets are smart enough not to spend and good enough not to have to.
judging by how upset the idea gets you guys i can only imagine how they will handle it when the time comes.
my guess is they are gonna give you the old "yeah, whatever kid." and do it anyway.
and you'll all whine about it for a while and then just accept it and continue playing.
thanks for the feedback
Peace B
You overestimate CCPs ability to retain a playerbase. Hate to break it to you put this game has already bottomed out on player activity. If the new build fails to shock and awe and even if it does the moment the summer releases start hitting the shelves this game is DOA.
All you PC/MMO/CCP diehard fanbois can continue playing it in a giant circles jerk but anyone with half a sense of what a good game is gone. The reality is the only reason ppl login on now is character progression and if you think PC is enough of a driving force to keep the base interested you have no idea what you are talking about.
Point is CCP is already on thin ice with the playerbase, reset SP they cripple themselves the player dropoff would be so expansive id imagine games would revert back to E3 level stability given how far across the globe the matchmaking system would have to search to find 32-48 players. Once that happens game is dead.
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Ops Fox
ZionTCD
214
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:56:00 -
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When the game comes out of beta and is officially "launched" they will reset sp and isk as well as refunding any aurum we have spent. This game is still in beta after all and its to be expected that they will reset it, we are Beta testing the game not playing it to get ahead when CCP announces the launch.
We will get all the suits and special items we used up as well as any aurum we spent when the launch reset goes through. the most recent reset was meant to be the last Beta reset we still have one more before the game is fully launched. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
91
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:58:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:When the game comes out of beta and is officially "launched" they will reset sp and isk as well as refunding any aurum we have spent. This game is still in beta after all and its to be expected that they will reset it, we are Beta testing the game not playing it to get ahead when CCP announces the launch.
We will get all the suits and special items we used up as well as any aurum we spent when the launch reset goes through. the most recent reset was meant to be the last Beta reset we still have one more before the game is fully launched.
Oh goody so when the game is "officially launched" i'll get all my MERC packs refunded too, yay!! and all the AURUM to go with it. Oh oh dont forget my bonus SP as was promised too . |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2109
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Posted - 2013.04.25 01:01:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote:As some of the other comments have pointed out, the revenue for this game is generated by Aurum sales, without it this game would have no ability to function.
If in fact CCP does a full reset they could potentially cause the game to fail through players leaving and raging on the forums. However, CCP is in a tight spot as how do you deal with new players who never played the beta ( this was stated by a previous comment) coming in when the game goes live? There will be a huge gap between Beta and non-Beta players. In fact there is already a discrepancy between closed and open beta players. Now add the learning curve on top of that and you have a precarious situation that might stunt the growth of this game.
Only time will tell if this game succeeds. Will FPS players want to switch from COD and Battlefield to Dust? How will Dust continue to compete against Planetside 2? Furthermore, when will Dust have a presence on Twitch.tv, an extremely popular video game streaming site that could potentially increase interest in Dust.
I know I have bounced around on this response, however, Dust is in a very interesting position. All I can hope is that new players find this game as addicting as I do, and don't give up when they get ROFL stomped (one last thing, the only reason I was able to survive those first few weeks, was that I came from Demon's Souls and Dark Souls, two soul crushing games that forced you to learn how to deal with intense enemies, as well constantly dying. Both games taught me patience, as well as how to adapt to hard situations. The reason I brought this up, is that not very many video game players would have played these games and learned how to deal with extreme situations).
Osiris.
I agree as well.
In regards to your statement about the gap existing between veterans and newbies, that's is just normal. Even if Dust were around 10 years from now, there will still be new players coming in. The same can be said for COD when I first joined and I was pitted against tough players. Halo is the same thing.
Dust is different in this regard because it operates under the strict RULES OF NEW EDEN and the first rule is Adapt or Die. Anyone not willing to follow this basic and most important rule is not worthy of being in New Eden. It's basically like CCP throwing us into the pool with blood-thirsty sharks that haven't been fed for a long time with electric eels accompanying them and you have to learn to get out while blind folded with one arm tied behind your back in the middle of the dark. If you manage to get out with at least one limb still attached, you're good to go. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1210
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Posted - 2013.04.25 01:05:00 -
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Enough. Bassmeant, you're in Zion. There. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
297
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Posted - 2013.04.25 01:11:00 -
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Lol. There will be no reset. I'll take that bet for a dollar. |
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