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Hazed2085 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:37:00 - [1] - Quote wondering whats the damage like on them?
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 39	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:49:00 - [2] - Quote You are trolling right?
Tiluvo Digital Mercs 54	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:49:00 - [3] - Quote The damage listed for the AV grenades is for splash damage only; the actual damage to the vehicle is not published, but I know from using them that the level one version will kill a methana or saga in one to two throws.
Hazed2085 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:52:00 - [4] - Quote Tiluvo wrote: The damage listed for the AV grenades is for splash damage only; the actual damage to the vehicle is not published, but I know from using them that the level one version will kill a methana or saga in one to two throws. i dont wanna know the exact damage.. just wondering if there actually worth the skill points.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1268	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:53:00 - [5] - Quote way to high if you ask me.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 39	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:56:00 - [6] - Quote Hazed2085 wrote: Tiluvo wrote: The damage listed for the AV grenades is for splash damage only; the actual damage to the vehicle is not published, but I know from using them that the level one version will kill a methana or saga in one to two throws. i dont wanna know the exact damage.. just wondering if there actually worth the skill points. Yes, if only to fend off free LAV spammers. Don't forget you also gain locus and flux grenades.
Hazed2085 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:57:00 - [7] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: way to high if you ask me. what would you say is best for taking out tanks?
Paladin Sas Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 14	Posted - 2013.04.23 10:58:00 - [8] - Quote I use standard level Packed AV like a madman, LOVE those things, and if you get grenadier to lv3, the M1 Locust are a beast... really, the fact that you unlock 3 different grenades with one skill made the skill point investment worth it to me.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 234	Posted - 2013.04.23 11:02:00 - [9] - Quote Hazed2085 wrote: The dark cloud wrote: way to high if you ask me. what would you say is best for taking out tanks? Head. And hard as....
Hazed2085 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.04.23 11:02:00 - [10] - Quote Paladin Sas wrote: I use standard level Packed AV like a madman, LOVE those things, and if you get grenadier to lv3, the M1 Locust are a beast... really, the fact that you unlock 3 different grenades with one skill made the skill point investment worth it to me. do you like spamming nades like me at the supply depot or some ammo supply.. just want som thin for the tanks..when your team has nothin and a tank come rolling in ..the guy finishes the game with like 20-0 cant be having that and the isk gain will be quite nice with some added rage mail hopefully

Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire 39	Posted - 2013.04.23 11:09:00 - [11] - Quote Hazed2085 wrote: Paladin Sas wrote: I use standard level Packed AV like a madman, LOVE those things, and if you get grenadier to lv3, the M1 Locust are a beast... really, the fact that you unlock 3 different grenades with one skill made the skill point investment worth it to me. do you like spamming nades like me at the supply depot or some ammo supply.. just want som thin for the tanks..when your team has nothin and a tank come rolling in ..the guy finishes the game with like 20-0 cant be having that and the isk gain will be quite nice with some added rage mail hopefully If you really want to focus on an anti vehicle role you should spec into AV weapons, such as swarm launchers or forge guns. Go check out the militia versions of each to see which you prefer.
getu pfool D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2013.04.23 11:12:00 - [12] - Quote everyone uses grenades so why not put some skill into them to get the better ones lai dais are beastscore locus can kill everything in blast area do it do it do it doit doit
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 272	Posted - 2013.04.23 11:19:00 - [13] - Quote Packed AV - something like 1200dmg or more
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 15	Posted - 2013.04.23 11:31:00 - [14] - Quote I have 2 copies of each type of drop suit I use. 1 loaded for infantry combat, 1 loaded with AV grenades. It makes a huge difference in the ability to affect an outcome. Preparation.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2583	Posted - 2013.04.23 12:25:00 - [15] - Quote AV Grenades (particularly the Packed AV Grenades) are nasty, especially when supported by other AV weapons. Bringing them with an anti-infantry fitting lets you fight on the front lines, and provide support for the AV guys where needed. Adding them to a fully AV-focused fitting gives you a last-ditch weapon you can drop if you can't afford the time you need for a reload, or if you're short on charge/lock time for your primary weapon against a charging LAV.
Chad2k95 D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 11	Posted - 2013.04.23 12:33:00 - [16] - Quote i find that flux grenades are good against tanks but only good if you have a swarm launcher or a forge gun it all depends on the tank if it's shield then it my militia forge gun suite with flux if armor it's the starter fit with nano-hives and av greanades
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2583	Posted - 2013.04.23 12:38:00 - [17] - Quote Chad2k95 wrote: militia forge gun suite Your sofa has a forge gun?
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD 352	Posted - 2013.04.23 12:42:00 - [18] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chad2k95 wrote: militia forge gun suite Your sofa has a forge gun? No, the motel down the street has a Sweet Suite with a Forge Gun.
Chad2k95 D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 11	Posted - 2013.04.23 12:47:00 - [19] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Chad2k95 wrote: militia forge gun suite Your sofa has a forge gun? i see where i went wrong i didn't double check the spelling
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 497	Posted - 2013.04.23 13:18:00 - [20] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I have 2 copies of each type of drop suit I use. 1 loaded for infantry combat, 1 loaded with AV grenades. It makes a huge difference in the ability to affect an outcome. Preparation. ^^^ So easy and extremely useful. Do this.

Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 715	Posted - 2013.04.23 13:45:00 - [21] - Quote I have a nasty little AV scout with Packed AV Grenades. I can often seak down next to a tank that is hiding from long-range AV and either kill it or force it into the open.
thecoolest guy IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2013.04.23 15:12:00 - [22] - Quote 4 Lai Dai Packed AV grenades will take out an 8k Armor Madrugar in under a minute. I use them exclusively.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 456	Posted - 2013.04.23 16:24:00 - [23] - Quote i use AV grenades a LOT, grenadier 4 so i'll try to sift through the "AV GRENADES IS OP!" and give you an honest assessment. at the lower end, you're not gonna be fighting off tanks by yourself with them unless the enemy is dumb enough to hold still near one of your resupplies or nanohives. you just can't carry enough of them to threaten a tank. that being said, they're still quite useful against the countless free LAVs zooming around everywhere. lower tier grenades will likely require 2 hits to destroy them, but it's enough to make them second guess spending the entire game running people over. at the higher end they're pretty good, i use EX-11 packed myself and it's started to reach the threshold where i can take out the shittiest HAVs by myself, and they consistently one-shot militia LAVs. but again, if it's a big boy tank and they're rampaging through your team, you're not gonna be able to take THEM out by yourself with just 3 EX-11s. now what DOES make AV grenades excellent is that it's a fairly low impact piece of kit. your favorite fit will be a lot more "intact" if you replace the grenades with AV grenades, than if you replace your primary weapon with a swarm launcher or forge gun. that way you can "fulltime" a base amount of AV ability. if you play with friends, they can too. suddenly 3 or 4 guys that are ALWAYS on an "av" fit are a significant threat to enemy HAVs. you just need to coordinate and attack together. you run out of AV grenades quickly, and they have a short range so it's easy for the tank to get away if you give it a chance, but if 4 people are whipping their 3 grenades all at the same time, all but the best HAVs will pop. POP! not retreat, explode. so they're not the answer to everything, but they're definitely a worthwhile piece to have. worst case scenario you're always prepared to help jump in on an enemy HAV and contribute some meaningful damage, even if you can't take it out yourself. i'd say it's absolutely worth skilling into, just know what you're getting. they're not magic.
Spec Ops Cipher Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 73	Posted - 2013.04.23 17:33:00 - [24] - Quote Av nades do 10x the damage stated, the damage stated is the (redundant) damage to infantry.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 72	Posted - 2013.04.23 17:40:00 - [25] - Quote doesn't happen often but those times you dance around a tank pounding him with av grenades....it's just nice
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 145	Posted - 2013.04.23 18:06:00 - [26] - Quote My buddy and I have scout suits with swarms and packed AVs. It's fun making tanks run from us. We shoot so many missles we blot out the sun.. and then finish him with the nades if he decides to charge us. There's nothing quite like the bingo moment when you toss an AV nade over a blind hill and get a tank kill. Another fun use is if you can hit a low flying dropship.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 145	Posted - 2013.04.23 18:07:00 - [27] - Quote Also, for shield tanks flux nades are boss.
Buzzwords Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION 456	Posted - 2013.04.23 20:01:00 - [28] - Quote Spec Ops Cipher wrote: Av nades do 10x the damage stated, the damage stated is the (redundant) damage to infantry. you're half right, the av grenades used to display their direct damage, and it was indeed 10X the current listings. but since then CCP has nerfed all AV equipment by about 25% across the board so a more accurate way to calculate would be 10X the damage stated, then reduce that number by 25% (this is of course before any resistances the target has)
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 154	Posted - 2013.04.23 20:08:00 - [29] - Quote Tiluvo wrote: The damage listed for the AV grenades is for splash damage only; the actual damage to the vehicle is not published, but I know from using them that the level one version will kill a methana or saga in one to two throws. If the methana was fit with nothing on it maybe..... im not sure if even three standard AV nades could kill a decent fit methana. one or two throws at a onikuma or balac would do, but according to what I read on the forums people think there was a ninja nerf to them recently. AV grenades are great to have even at LVL 1 though, it makes it so that your more or less immune to road runners that do nothing more then.... well.... run people over all match (so long as your paying attention). If you want to get serious with them though, AV grenades don't get REALLY good until level three with the ADV ones, and there god like at proto lvl. Ive seen proto tanks crumble under well placed proto nades (albeit with atleast 5 or so). Of course its a tough decision though because flux grenades are equally useful depending on the situation.....
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 154	Posted - 2013.04.23 22:24:00 - [30] - Quote Swarms suck. You have to give up using a primary weapon. You will be better off spamming nades.



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