Ok so I've read stuff in forums about sp resetting to 0, sp refunds and autumn refunds. What is going on? I haven't seen a single post about any of this from ccp except stating that sp would be refunded on may 6 with PC arrival. Where are all these people getting their info? CCP really should state what is going to happen and set it in stone so all the n00bs don't spread misinformation and enrage people for no reason.

Ok so I've read stuff in forums about sp resetting to 0, sp refunds and autumn refunds. What is going on? I haven't seen a single post about any of this from ccp except stating that sp would be refunded on may 6 with PC arrival. Where are all these people getting their info? CCP really should state what is going to happen and set it in stone so all the n00bs don't spread misinformation and enrage people for no reason.

So far, CCP have been avoiding any commenting on the matter, so pretty much everything is speculative arguments over legalities that most of us don't know enough about to say for sure what's going to happen, but the current unofficial story is that CCP have a "reimbursement" plan of some kind that they're working on.

"unofficial" as in, CCP have only stated that they are implementing a "reimbursement plan" in threads here on the forum.

Y'know, par for the course with CCP, where everything is either officially unofficial or unofficially official.

I could care less about merc packs.
What does merc packs even have to do with people speculating an sp reset?

No, "unofficial" as in only people who DON'T work for CCP have stated it, but with a history of (mostly) reliable information and a plausible story about their source being official communications with CCP staff. And with at least one thread surviving several days through moderator purges of the forum without being touched. Tacit acceptance of the thread doesn't prove it's true, but makes it seem less likely to be a troll attempt.

No, "unofficial" as in only people who DON'T work for CCP have stated it, but with a history of (mostly) reliable information and a plausible story about their source being official communications with CCP staff. And with at least one thread surviving several days through moderator purges of the forum without being touched. Tacit acceptance of the thread doesn't prove it's true, but makes it seem less likely to be a troll attempt.

No, CCP Eterne (at least, I'm pretty sure it was Eterne... certain it was a CCP employee posting from a CCP account) has already stated in at least one thread that this is what they are doing. That's where the "rumor" came from. A post by a CCP Dev in one of these threads telling us that they will be rolling out a "Reimbursement Program" that we will be "hearing more about SOON(tm)" (paraphrasing, obviously).

No, CCP Eterne (at least, I'm pretty sure it was Eterne... certain it was a CCP employee posting from a CCP account) has already stated in at least one thread that this is what they are doing. That's where the "rumor" came from. A post by a CCP Dev in one of these threads telling us that they will be rolling out a "Reimbursement Program" that we will be "hearing more about SOON(tm)" (paraphrasing, obviously).

Didn't that conversation originally come up as a third party blog from a player?

Tried looking for the post, it seems to have mysteriously "disappeared". But I do clearly remember Eterne saying that CCP is working on a reimbursement program, the details of which will be revealed at a later date.

I am not sure that I recall the post the same as you guys.

Are we talking about the thread asking why the no reset sticky was removed?

If so, I think that Eterne said that there would be a blog posted on the subject, not confirm a reimbursement program.

Tried looking for the post, it seems to have mysteriously "disappeared". But I do clearly remember Eterne saying that CCP is working on a reimbursement program, the details of which will be revealed at a later date.

So this is another thing we need a confirmation for.

No, he commented in one of yesterdays many threads.

There was an article where CCP managed to screw up their choice of words, and make it sound like Uprising will be the official release of the game, when they were trying to say they're looking forward to the release of the Uprising build. Apparently those are easy to get mixed up for some people, and at least one of those people works for CCP in a role where careful choice of words is normally a prerequisite for the job.

Because of that "release" rumour, a discussion that's been going on since we came into open beta has gone from being a fringe discussion to blowing up in all our faces.

When we came out of closed beta, CCP announced "no more resets" and said we're keeping al our stuff, Aurum, etc.

That was cool, EXCEPT that people were looking at the description on the Merc Pack, and noticed that it promises a "credit" of its contents (which includes Aurum and some unique limited-run gear) at every reset AND at commercial release. CCP had announced last reset, and specifically stated that it WASN'T commercial release yet.

As people were figuring all this out, CCP changed the wording on the Merc Pack to no longer offer the reset on commercial release, so we were left wondering if those of us who bought Merc Packs before the change would have the conditions of our purchase honoured, or if we would be lumped in with the new conditions that aren't actually what we paid for.

So far, CCP have been avoiding any commenting on the matter, so pretty much everything is speculative arguments over legalities that most of us don't know enough about to say for sure what's going to happen, but the current unofficial story is that CCP have a "reimbursement" plan of some kind that they're working on.

#4Posted: 2013.04.15 02:08 | Report
We are doing a skill refund, not reset, with Uprising.

Reset would be reverting your character back to how it was when it was first created.
Refund will be giving you all the SP you have spent back to you as unallocated SP to spend again.

Give this official podcast a listen. It is short, official, and gives the details: http://dust514.com/beta/news/2013/04/merc-cast-episode-1/

We are all aware of the SP refund for May 6th. We are talking about the Merc Pack reimbursement for commercial release.