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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
70
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Posted - 2013.04.16 01:54:00 -
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after seeing this in iron wolfs cocept art thread i thought this was great. you select your weopen in the fittig menu and it would look like a normal dropsuit/vehicle fitting screen except its for a gun here u can add dmg mods/different ammo/sights/grenade launcher/foregrip/bipod/barrel varients/ suppresors/laser sights/under barrel nanite launcher to revive people from a distance. also camo for weapon ideas? thoughts? |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:00:00 -
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hello? |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
1221
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:02:00 -
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Quote: The following topics were discussed by the dev team this week regarding gameplay issues in the beta:
Ambush GÇ£Default spawn pointsGÇ¥ still the biggest issue to players for this game mode Update: there are lots of fixes to address this issue (and its not just telling you guys to use more drop uplinks! )
Players dislike the wording of Basic Auto-Detonator Update: This item is not in-game yet and will not be a weapon that gets easy kills.
Other Suggestions and Feedback/Requests
[SUGGESTION] Effective range on weapons - A new feature that offers target intel will address this issue with effective range on weapons plus damage types and damage modifers.
[FEEDBACK] Why gunplay feels GÇ£offGÇ¥ (Sensitivity, ADS, POV, Grenade throwing) - There is an improved FPS system which will address many of the issues that should be in the next update.
[REQUEST] Item compare - This is planned for a later release, there will be a new tab to compare the current item with your favored one.
[FEEDBACK] Infinite missile tracking - Currently missiles do have a max range and life time, there will be more tweaks for this.
[REQUEST] Weapon customization: Subsystem, Rigging, Slots, or Add-ons - The design for this is ready, but it is a very large task to implement it in-game. Expect this at a later date.
That's it for this week, we appreciate your feedback/comments so keep up the good work!
Note the last request. |
Geth Massredux
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
142
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:03:00 -
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I do like that, but I do like the weapon on the character so I see my character holding it. So a separate screen would be nice for the gun showing the moduls |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:07:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Quote: The following topics were discussed by the dev team this week regarding gameplay issues in the beta:
Ambush GÇ£Default spawn pointsGÇ¥ still the biggest issue to players for this game mode Update: there are lots of fixes to address this issue (and its not just telling you guys to use more drop uplinks! )
Players dislike the wording of Basic Auto-Detonator Update: This item is not in-game yet and will not be a weapon that gets easy kills.
Other Suggestions and Feedback/Requests
[SUGGESTION] Effective range on weapons - A new feature that offers target intel will address this issue with effective range on weapons plus damage types and damage modifers.
[FEEDBACK] Why gunplay feels GÇ£offGÇ¥ (Sensitivity, ADS, POV, Grenade throwing) - There is an improved FPS system which will address many of the issues that should be in the next update.
[REQUEST] Item compare - This is planned for a later release, there will be a new tab to compare the current item with your favored one.
[FEEDBACK] Infinite missile tracking - Currently missiles do have a max range and life time, there will be more tweaks for this.
[REQUEST] Weapon customization: Subsystem, Rigging, Slots, or Add-ons - The design for this is ready, but it is a very large task to implement it in-game. Expect this at a later date.
That's it for this week, we appreciate your feedback/comments so keep up the good work!
Note the last request. yay now time for ideas |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:17:00 -
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ideas far scope:reflex,3x,5x,8,,12x,toggalable,zoomable,TWS,infrared |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative
365
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:23:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:after seeing this in iron wolfs cocept art thread i thought this was great. you select your weopen in the fittig menu and it would look like a normal dropsuit/vehicle fitting screen except its for a gun here u can add dmg mods/different ammo/sights/grenade launcher/foregrip/bipod/barrel varients/ suppresors/laser sights/under barrel nanite launcher to revive people from a distance. also camo for weapon ideas? thoughts?
...The not so distant hypothetical future...because you made so much noise over this feature...
You: "RAWRRRARRR I got the modular weapons fitting bug again...! CCP IS GARBAGE RAWRRR! "
CCP Helpfuldev: "Make sure you exit out of the weapons fittings into the suit fittings then into the operation menu THEN into the mercenary hangar...SLOWLY. If you are in game, then you must go to the suit selection screen after the suit fittings window, then the overview map. Exiting out of the weapons fittings straight to the menu may cause glitching. If you are trying to re-modularize your weapons it is best to make a variety of fittigs ahead of time and select from them instead of 'fitting on the fly' "
CCP Helpfuldev: "Also you should note that it may take up to a minute for each edit to refresh all of your data as the hierarchical arrangement of fittings inside of fittings inside of fittings requires us to 'Inception' the database with some queued up SQL write scripts. When you edit a single module within a weapon within a dropsuit it must filter through 8 different key fields of data libraries that are 15-20MB each. On top of that it must do a pass/fail check against the fitting requirements based on the skills of your character and the dropsuit's and weapons PG/CPU. Under some scenarios, some fail checks will appear to timeout client-side, but as long as you patiently wait between edits on these weapons you shouldn't have a problem."
You: "CCP WHY CANT I COPY MY WEAPONS BETWEEN DROPSUITS!!"
CCP: "The only way you can get a modular weapon on a dropsuit is to load the custom frame first and build it from the ground up. Copying a modular loadout from the weapon is currently unstable and can lead to 'broken' fittings slots on dropsuits which will lead to disconnects. As long as you smoothly move through the dropsuit-weapon-loadout-modular-fittings-window smoothly waiting for each change to refresh you should be okay." Our QA/QC team is showing about a 8-10 minute 'build-time' on each new modular weapon that you are editing. Congratulation on this exciting new feature and we hope you enjoy the 3,192 different valid modular weapons combinations! "
You: "WTF!!! I just bought 35 Thales Precision Mounts in my modular SMG screen and it still is saying I have only two!!! Give me my 22 million isk back!"
CCP: "Like we've been saying...if you drink to much caffeine while trying to fit your weapons, you may end up with some messy information client-side. This is your fault. you should take a warm bath and relax. Your mounts are being delivered and your money is in a safe place. You probably loaded the mount after a change that invalidated your fitting without refreshing. The mount won't fit. Your gun can only hold so much tool! Stop compensating for something...Restarting will correctly load your library."
I'm wondering if modular weapons will be like the T3 weapons of Dust... |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
326
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:23:00 -
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That was my idea, born from the shadowrun pen and paper rpg. Was an awesome thing, tons of options that affect dmg, range, rof, cpu, and pg costs, what you add to the gun has an isk value so you could run into a match with a 1,000,000 isk gun. There would be checks and balances so an uber gun would be costly on isk and pg and cpu. It would add another layer to the game that other games (defiance) are doing to a small degree. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:26:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:after seeing this in iron wolfs cocept art thread i thought this was great. you select your weopen in the fittig menu and it would look like a normal dropsuit/vehicle fitting screen except its for a gun here u can add dmg mods/different ammo/sights/grenade launcher/foregrip/bipod/barrel varients/ suppresors/laser sights/under barrel nanite launcher to revive people from a distance. also camo for weapon ideas? thoughts? ...The not so distant hypothetical future...because you made so much noise over this feature...You: "RAWRRRARRR I got the modular weapons fitting bug again...! CCP IS GARBAGE RAWRRR! " CCP Helpfuldev: "Make sure you exit out of the weapons fittings into the suit fittings then into the operation menu...SLOWLY. Exiting out of the weapons fittings straight to the menu may cause glitching. If you are trying to re-modularize your weapons it is best to make a variety of fittigs and select from them instead of 'fitting on the fly' " CCP Helpfuldev: "Also you should note that it may take up to a minute for each edit to refresh all of your data as the hierarchical arrangement of fittings inside of fittings inside of fittings requires us to 'Inception' the database with some queued up SQL write scripts. When you edit a single module within a weapon within a dropsuit it must filter through 8 different key fields of data libraries that are 15-20MB each. On top of that it must do a pass/fail check against the fitting requirements based on the skills of your character and the dropsuit's and weapons PG/CPU. Under some scenarios, some fail checks will appear to timeout client-side, but as long as you patiently wait between edits on these weapons you shouldn't have a problem." You: "CCP WHY CANT I COPY MY WEAPONS BETWEEN DROPSUITS!!" CCP: "The only way you can get a modular weapon on a dropsuit is to load the custom frame first and build it from the ground up. Copying a modular loadout from the weapon is currently unstable and can lead to 'broken' fittings slots on dropsuits which will lead to disconnects. As long as you smoothly move through the dropsuit-weapon-loadout-modular-fittings-window smoothly waiting for each change to refresh you should be okay." Our QA/QC team is showing about a 8-10 minute 'build-time' on each new modular weapon that you are editing. Congratulation on this exciting new feature and we hope you enjoy the 3,192 different valid modular weapons combinations! " You: "WTF!!! I just bought 35 Thales Precision Mounts in my modular SMG screen and it still is saying I have only two!!! Give me my 22 million isk back!" CCP: "Like we've been saying...if you drink to much caffeine while trying to fit your weapons, you may end up with some messy information client-side. This is your fault. you should take a warm bath and relax. Your mounts are being delivered and your money is in a safe place. You probably loaded the mount after a change that invalidated your fitting without refreshing. The mount won't fit. Your gun can only hold so much tool! Stop compensating for something...Restarting will correctly load your library." lol +1 |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:28:00 -
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William HBonney wrote:That was my idea, born from the shadowrun pen and paper rpg. Was an awesome thing, tons of options that affect dmg, range, rof, cpu, and pg costs, what you add to the gun has an isk value so you could run into a match with a 1,000,000 isk gun. There would be checks and balances so an uber gun would be costly on isk and pg and cpu. It would add another layer to the game that other games (defiance) are doing to a small degree. sniper railgun yaay |
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Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:30:00 -
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how about a under barrel railgun? |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
113
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:39:00 -
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That gets me all jazzed up. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
882
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:41:00 -
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Pretty sure weapons will get their own fitting screen, you will choose a name for the weapon fitting and then you'll probably be able to add that weapon fitting onto your dropsuit fitting, easy peasy! |
dustwaffle
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
6
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:47:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:how about a under barrel railgun? MD with grenade launcher attachment (MD) |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
882
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:58:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:how about a under barrel railgun? MD with grenade launcher attachment (MD)
Sloth9230 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Grenade launcher on gun.... Fk no. F, yeah bro! Mass Drivers should get Mass Driver attachments, so they can mass drive while they mass drive.
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General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.04.16 02:59:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:after seeing this in iron wolfs cocept art thread i thought this was great. you select your weopen in the fittig menu and it would look like a normal dropsuit/vehicle fitting screen except its for a gun here u can add dmg mods/different ammo/sights/grenade launcher/foregrip/bipod/barrel varients/ suppresors/laser sights/under barrel nanite launcher to revive people from a distance. also camo for weapon ideas? thoughts?
That would be so awesome, and it's the sort of thing CCP might do. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
150
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:01:00 -
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But it isn't just dmg boost etc. you actually change the purpose of the weapon. Take the modular smg. You could turn it into a miny HMG or even an ar |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:05:00 -
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General Sideboob wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:after seeing this in iron wolfs cocept art thread i thought this was great. you select your weopen in the fittig menu and it would look like a normal dropsuit/vehicle fitting screen except its for a gun here u can add dmg mods/different ammo/sights/grenade launcher/foregrip/bipod/barrel varients/ suppresors/laser sights/under barrel nanite launcher to revive people from a distance. also camo for weapon ideas? thoughts? That would be so awesome, and it's the sort of thing CCP might do. read logi bros quote of weekly update. theyre already done |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
63
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:26:00 -
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Some of those seemed to be different variants of the same weapon. Or just different models, instead of the current single model multiple skins.
ie one of those had a very long barrel, so it was much closer to a rapid fireing auto cannon, or a long range mini gun then the current version. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
145
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Posted - 2013.04.16 03:59:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:dustwaffle wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:how about a under barrel railgun? MD with grenade launcher attachment (MD) Sloth9230 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Grenade launcher on gun.... Fk no. F, yeah bro! Mass Drivers should get Mass Driver attachments, so they can mass drive while they mass drive. I still think its a bad idea. |
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Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative
6
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Posted - 2013.04.16 07:26:00 -
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I want my lasergetazergazerphaser |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
73
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Posted - 2013.04.16 22:52:00 -
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bump |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1287
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Posted - 2013.04.17 00:11:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:I still think its a bad idea. Under-barrel grenade launchers would be fine with the high TTK (time-to-kill) in this game. You wouldn't be able to one-hit-kill anyone with it, so there's no issue. |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.04.17 00:46:00 -
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I would like all classes of suits for all races, please. |
Noraa Anderson
Nox Aeterna Security
188
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Posted - 2013.04.17 01:22:00 -
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Modular or not we really need something a little less rudimentary than iron-sights on the AR. |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.04.17 01:30:00 -
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I would like to see different mods be able to be stored on the suit so you can run with one mod to push a city and then with out reequipping you can take a couplea seconds to swap to a longer range mod of that weapon to push back out side the city. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
45
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Posted - 2013.04.17 01:49:00 -
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SMG would have a few good variant, but not so much. - the High precision, look to also be something like a low dB version, silenced. - The assault type? I guess a longer range, high RoF, lower damage...but isn't that already the AR which as the same name? - I laughed at the SMG "compact mini gun" version in the picture. A mini mini gun shooting pellet, making a sound that look like a RC plane engine at full speed. We can go squirrel hunting like when we were young, yay. How can a cannon about the size of a thumb, which is actually divided in 5-6 chambers could actually damage someone with an armor.
The HMG have some good variant in the picture Iron Wolf posted. - The "standard 35mm variant" - The MK1 variant look like a minigun version of a sawed-off shotgun, so basically more damage, less range - the 50mm variant, less ROF, really effective against vehicles. - The Storm version, probably a "laser bullet" minigun version
Probably we will see something similar in the AR group, which is kinda already the same with the few variant we have right now, but more defined and customizable?
Laser? I really can't think how they could have variants... Large beam, small range? AV laser version? Like a forge, you need to charge but can hold the beam on a tank for a few(2-3) seconds. A multi battery pack version with heat dissipation, harder to aim, but longer duration and less heat? Idk.
Futur will tell but I like the route it take. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.04.17 02:25:00 -
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I just want a acog,suppresed duvolle |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
485
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Posted - 2013.04.17 07:26:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Sloth9230 wrote: Mass Drivers should get Mass Driver attachments, so they can mass drive while they mass drive.
I still think its a bad idea.[/quote]
What about a forge gun attachment for my forge gun? So I can forge gun while I forge gun? |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
14
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Posted - 2013.04.17 08:04:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:after seeing this in iron wolfs cocept art thread i thought this was great. you select your weopen in the fittig menu and it would look like a normal dropsuit/vehicle fitting screen except its for a gun here u can add dmg mods/different ammo/sights/grenade launcher/foregrip/bipod/barrel varients/ suppresors/laser sights/under barrel nanite launcher to revive people from a distance. also camo for weapon ideas? thoughts? ...The not so distant hypothetical future...because you made so much noise over this feature...You: "RAWRRRARRR I got the modular weapons fitting bug again...! CCP IS GARBAGE RAWRRR! " CCP Helpfuldev: "Make sure you exit out of the weapons fittings into the suit fittings then into the operation menu THEN into the mercenary hangar...SLOWLY. If you are in game, then you must go to the suit selection screen after the suit fittings window, then the overview map. Exiting out of the weapons fittings straight to the menu may cause glitching. If you are trying to re-modularize your weapons it is best to make a variety of fittigs ahead of time and select from them instead of 'fitting on the fly' " CCP Helpfuldev: "Also you should note that it may take up to a minute for each edit to refresh all of your data as the hierarchical arrangement of fittings inside of fittings inside of fittings requires us to 'Inception' the database with some queued up SQL write scripts. When you edit a single module within a weapon within a dropsuit it must filter through 8 different key fields of data libraries that are 15-20MB each. On top of that it must do a pass/fail check against the fitting requirements based on the skills of your character and the dropsuit's and weapons PG/CPU. Under some scenarios, some fail checks will appear to timeout client-side, but as long as you patiently wait between edits on these weapons you shouldn't have a problem. We assure you this is state of the art stuff, we use hamsters on wheels and everything." You: "CCP WHY CANT I COPY MY WEAPONS BETWEEN DROPSUITS!!" CCP: "The only way you can get a modular weapon on a dropsuit is to load the custom frame first and build it from the ground up. Copying a modular loadout from the weapon is currently unstable and can lead to 'broken' fittings slots on dropsuits which will lead to disconnects. As long as you smoothly move through the dropsuit-weapon-loadout-modular-fittings-window smoothly waiting for each change to refresh you should be okay." Our QA/QC team is showing about a 8-10 minute 'build-time' on each new modular weapon that you are editing. Congratulation on this exciting new feature and we hope you enjoy the 3,192 different valid modular weapons combinations! " You: "WTF!!! I just bought 35 Thales Precision Mounts in my modular SMG screen and it still is saying I have only two!!! Give me my 22 million isk back!" CCP: "Like we've been saying...if you drink to much caffeine while trying to fit your weapons, you may end up with some messy information client-side. This is your fault. you should take a warm bath and relax. Your mounts are being delivered and your money is in a safe place. You probably loaded the mount after a change that invalidated your fitting without refreshing. The mount won't fit. Your gun can only hold so much tool! Stop compensating for something...Restarting will correctly load your library." I'm wondering if modular weapons will be like the T3 weapons of Dust...
da **** is this BS?
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