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JohnFlash
Commando Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:43:00 -
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I hope they have someone looking over what people name there mercs because some is just WRONG. Like the one is just saw in game.
party at Auschwitz
Do you really find this name okey??? |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
56
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:45:00 -
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JohnFlash wrote:I hope they have someone looking over what people name there mercs because some is just WRONG. Like the one is just saw in game.
party at Auschwitz
Do you really find this name okey??? Yes they do, report the names to CCP |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
69
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:45:00 -
[3] - Quote
Yeah, that name should be reported, though currently there is no way to do that in Dust, at least AFAIK.
You can report names in Eve, I would assume that we will be able to do the same sooner than later in Dust. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
819
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:46:00 -
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Pretty sure the EVE character name terms apply.
b. Character names may not:
Impersonate or parody any employee or representative of EVE Online, CCP, Customer Support personnel or volunteers.
Impersonate or parody an NPC type from the EVE game world (i.e. CONCORD or other official NPC corporation or organization members) for the purpose of misleading other players.
Reflect, glorify or emulate any real-world group or organization, terrorist society, criminal elements, discriminating organizations or their leaders and figureheads. This includes the use of names of real-world military, political or religious groups.
Be obscene, vulgar, sexually explicit, offensive, hurtful, harmful, promote drugs, profane, anti-gay, and ethnically, racially or sexually offensive or impart any real-world hostility toward a specific nationality, race or religion. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:00:00 -
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yeah let's police everything to oblivion and allow only flower names as options. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2497
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:04:00 -
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Do they screen names on creation? No. Will the investigate if an offensive character name is reported? Yes.
So... ummm... like everyone's already said, REPORT! |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
820
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:13:00 -
[7] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:yeah let's police everything to oblivion and allow only flower names as options. That's exactly what was said here.
A+ for reading comprehension. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
485
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Posted - 2013.04.14 22:18:00 -
[8] - Quote
[email protected] |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
141
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:27:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:yeah let's police everything to oblivion and allow only flower names as options. That's exactly what was said here. A+ for reading comprehension.
Oh please do enlighten me with depth and maturity of your insight into the subject. |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
160
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:36:00 -
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Stfu and deal with it. Didnt anyone ever tell you the phrase "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" Censorship is rarely a good thing |
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Mithridates VI
DUST 411
824
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:37:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:yeah let's police everything to oblivion and allow only flower names as options. That's exactly what was said here. A+ for reading comprehension. Oh please do enlighten me with depth and maturity of your insight into the subject.
Really? You need to have the slippery slope fallacy explained to you? Sounds boring, I'd rather just lol at you without justifying my lols. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
867
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:38:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:yeah let's police everything to oblivion and allow only flower names as options. Okay "Lily" |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
1986
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Posted - 2013.04.15 02:44:00 -
[13] - Quote
Computers can only censor so much without accidentally censoring innocent words like "assault" and make it into "kittenault". Character names are equally difficult. This is why only a person can compensate for things that fall through the cracks. In other words, report the name to CCP.
[email protected] |
VulvaOfTheYeast
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:07:00 -
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If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
1986
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:15:00 -
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VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies!
The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
160
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:15:00 -
[16] - Quote
VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! Well said my friend. I have to think that ccp is not for such censorship but must because of babies like this |
VulvaOfTheYeast
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. I know very well what the place is and the person is no doubt a douchebag for using it. The question is, where do you draw the line. Censorship isn't just a slippery slope, it's a damn waterfall.
Now...how many times have YOU told someone who didn't like something in the EvE/Dust universe to "HTFU"? Right back at ya this time. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:32:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:yeah let's police everything to oblivion and allow only flower names as options. That's exactly what was said here. A+ for reading comprehension. Oh please do enlighten me with depth and maturity of your insight into the subject. Really? You need to have the slippery slope fallacy explained to you? Sounds boring, I'd rather just lol at you without justifying my lols.
U scarred to look dumb? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2013.04.15 03:36:00 -
[19] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name.
Someone chose to reveal their idiocy and show their disregard for the lost lives. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch? |
JohnFlash
Commando Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:47:00 -
[20] - Quote
Maybe im to old to let this "joke" be just a joke...... |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
867
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:50:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. Someone chose to reveal their idiocy and show their disregard for the lost lives. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch? Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over people wanting to do something about it? |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
501
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name.
They also burned books and locked away political dissident that "spoke" against them |
William HBonney
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
324
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Posted - 2013.04.15 06:02:00 -
[23] - Quote
I think there is some reason to be upset over a name like that, especially if you were a Jew or had family members who went through that. Like if someone had the name Sandy Hook playground, or That Columbine Kid. Most people around the world wouldn't get the names, but to suggest that the names weren't meant to stir the pot is ludicrous. |
SickJ
French unchained corporation Squale Operation Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.04.15 06:25:00 -
[24] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name.
This just begs for a Harry Potter quote: 'Always use the proper name for things. Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.' -Albus Dumbledore
On the other hand, only a total **** would use the name 'Auschwitz', so I certainly won't feel bad for repeatedly teamkilling him and waving my adv nanite injector in his face, stealing his HAV, and then running him over with it. Just as soon as CCP puts in friendly fire. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
502
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Posted - 2013.04.15 06:29:00 -
[25] - Quote
SickJ wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. This just begs for a Harry Potter quote: 'Always use the proper name for things. Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself.' -Albus Dumbledore On the other hand, only a total **** would use the name 'Auschwitz', so I certainly won't feel bad for repeatedly teamkilling him and waving my adv nanite injector in his face, stealing his HAV, and then running him over with it. Just as soon as CCP puts in friendly fire.
Now this is something i think we can all reasonably agree with. Why censor when you can just utterly destroy any chance of the troll trying to have fun. There are better ways to deal with these things in video games, after all what you all really want to do is sock this person in the nose so do it virtually. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
585
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Posted - 2013.04.15 07:30:00 -
[26] - Quote
Perhaps they're native to O+¢wi-Öcim and German nationals, so they use the German spelling?
And they're just having a party at home while playing DUST and suddenly someone butthurt gets this name banned... Poor guys. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1347
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:29:00 -
[27] - Quote
Anyone who is saying HTFU should probably know we do take action against people who have offensive names. Please report them through our support mechanisms and we'll deal with them. |
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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1242
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:42:00 -
[28] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Anyone who is saying HTFU should probably know we do take action against people who have offensive names. Please report them through our support mechanisms and we'll deal with them. i actually can confirm that. Some guy was called "Dustplayer3094245" or a similar number at the end. Thats what basically happends when you pick a name that is offensive. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
485
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Posted - 2013.04.15 09:56:00 -
[29] - Quote
Hmm, how nice to hear that after coming back from a ceremony about that. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
148
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:29:00 -
[30] - Quote
I don't understand why theres so much hype these days over things that happened about 70 years ago. What the ***** did was terrible yes, but theres a point where people have to move on. If I were to name my character based off any of the major empires that have risen and fallen in the last thousand years (which have no doubt also performed terrible deeds as well), would I get this much flak for it??
For example.... if I named myself "Vlad the Impaler" Would I get reported because my name is the same as a king who, for pleasure, had massive spikes plowed through people while they were still alive?? In my opinion the brutality showed between both the ***** and vlad were on a similar level, yet I doubt I would get in trouble for using vlad as a name.
In fact the only difference these days is that people have a few grandparents/ great grandparents who "lived when it happened" but that's kind of a mute point anyway because I doubt anyone who is 70 and older is actually playing this game to begin with. So what then? its offensive to jews? I mean I guess you can justify that but again I want to just tell me to to "move on"...... |
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Zooka Booom
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:45:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Hmm, how nice to hear that after coming back from a ceremony about that. Lost most of my family there from my father's side. The only two people who survived were my grandmother and her mother, out of 12 family members. I find this extremely offensive and I would like CCP to either ban him or change his name.
I have reported it and they will take it away. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
485
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:50:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:I don't understand why theres so much hype these days over things that happened about 70 years ago. What the ***** did was terrible yes, but theres a point where people have to move on. If I were to name my character based off any of the major empires that have risen and fallen in the last thousand years (which have no doubt also performed terrible deeds as well), would I get this much flak for it??
For example.... if I named myself "Vlad the Impaler" Would I get reported because my name is the same as a king who, for pleasure, had massive spikes plowed through people while they were still alive?? In my opinion the brutality showed between both the ***** and vlad were on a similar level, yet I doubt I would get in trouble for using vlad as a name.
In fact the only difference these days is that people have a few grandparents/ great grandparents who "lived when it happened" but that's kind of a mute point anyway because I doubt anyone who is 70 and older is actually playing this game to begin with. So what then? its offensive to jews? I mean I guess you can justify that but again I want to just tell me to to "move on"...... 70 years is not that long. And the main reason people cling is because there are people alive who lived through it. I know some people who have the mark the N-a-z-i's put on them. There are thousands of people like that, not just 10, 20, or 200. There have been barely a few generations between then and now.
For a lot of people, its still very much fresh even 70 years later. And I think it would take a long time before a Jew could brush off the fact that 6 million of his people died in 7 years. |
xaerael Kabiel
Immobile Infantry
33
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: 70 years is not that long. And the main reason people cling is because there are people alive who lived through it. I know some people who have the mark N-a-z-i's put on them. There are thousands of people like that, not just 10, 20, or 200. There have been barely a few generations between then and now.
There's also a massive difference between vague and inconsistent stories of a centuries old historical figure's antics which can't be verified other than what someone wrote or painted (i.e., citation needed!), and events that occurred in living memory which involve gruesome war crimes. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
485
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Posted - 2013.04.15 11:59:00 -
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xaerael Kabiel wrote:Cat Merc wrote: 70 years is not that long. And the main reason people cling is because there are people alive who lived through it. I know some people who have the mark N-a-z-i's put on them. There are thousands of people like that, not just 10, 20, or 200. There have been barely a few generations between then and now.
There's also a massive difference between vague and inconsistent stories of a centuries old historical figure's antics which can't be verified other than what someone wrote or painted (i.e., citation needed!), and events that occurred in living memory which involve gruesome war crimes. That too. My grandmother died not too long ago, I never got much information from her about it. Everytime I asked, she teared up and couldn't say anything. |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:25:00 -
[35] - Quote
Notice how this thread turned into ''I'm a jew, pity me''?
There are 5500 Africans dying everyday. That's 2 millions a year. 14 million in 7 years. And it's happening NOW.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
54
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:46:00 -
[36] - Quote
loumanchew wrote:Notice how this thread turned into ''I'm a jew, pity me''?
There are 5500 Africans dying everyday. That's 2 millions a year. 14 million in 7 years. And it's happening NOW.
It turned into that because the offence was relevant to the holocaust. Perhaps you should be more sensitive? |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
485
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Posted - 2013.04.15 13:07:00 -
[37] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:loumanchew wrote:Notice how this thread turned into ''I'm a jew, pity me''?
There are 5500 Africans dying everyday. That's 2 millions a year. 14 million in 7 years. And it's happening NOW.
It turned into that because the offence was relevant to the holocaust. Perhaps you should be more sensitive? Sensitivity? On the internet? lol |
Spacetits CDXX
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
157
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Posted - 2013.04.15 13:51:00 -
[38] - Quote
To the people crying censorship: Don't pretend that a name invoking the holocaust wasn't meant to offend, and nothing more. Making a toon name like that isn't starting a real discussion on the subject, and this isn't Naked Lunch or Ulysses we're talking about. |
General Sideboob
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.04.15 14:17:00 -
[39] - Quote
JohnFlash wrote:I hope they have someone looking over what people name there mercs because some is just WRONG. Like the one is just saw in game.
party at Auschwitz
Do you really find this name okey???
I was trying to figure out how to report that guy yesterday. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
485
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Posted - 2013.04.15 17:05:00 -
[40] - Quote
Spacetits CDXX wrote:To the people crying censorship: Don't pretend that a name invoking the holocaust wasn't meant to offend, and nothing more. Making a toon name like that isn't starting a real discussion on the subject, and this isn't Naked Lunch or Ulysses we're talking about. Could you please rephrase that somehow? I don't understand what you mean. |
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Spacetits CDXX
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
158
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Posted - 2013.04.15 19:32:00 -
[41] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Spacetits CDXX wrote:To the people crying censorship: Don't pretend that a name invoking the holocaust wasn't meant to offend, and nothing more. Making a toon name like that isn't starting a real discussion on the subject, and this isn't Naked Lunch or Ulysses we're talking about. Could you please rephrase that somehow? I don't understand what you mean.
I meant that
A) those kind of names in particular are only meant to offend. Usually "censorship", in a broader sense, is associated with stifling ideas or discourse. This simply isn't the case here because there is no discourse going on, it's just a name someone picked to see who he could rile up.
B) a username is not in the same category of speech as, for example, literature. Both of the books I mentioned have been censored/banned in various locales, and were later defended on the grounds of having artistic merit (the basis of the US and UK court decisions, at least). Somebody's username is not something you can seriously argue a defence of on those grounds. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
419
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Posted - 2013.04.15 20:56:00 -
[42] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:I don't understand why theres so much hype these days over things that happened about 70 years ago. What the ***** did was terrible yes, but theres a point where people have to move on. If I were to name my character based off any of the major empires that have risen and fallen in the last thousand years (which have no doubt also performed terrible deeds as well), would I get this much flak for it??
For example.... if I named myself "Vlad the Impaler" Would I get reported because my name is the same as a king who, for pleasure, had massive spikes plowed through people while they were still alive?? In my opinion the brutality showed between both the ***** and vlad were on a similar level, yet I doubt I would get in trouble for using vlad as a name.
In fact the only difference these days is that people have a few grandparents/ great grandparents who "lived when it happened" but that's kind of a mute point anyway because I doubt anyone who is 70 and older is actually playing this game to begin with. So what then? its offensive to jews? I mean I guess you can justify that but again I want to just tell me to to "move on"...... moot point, not mute point |
Warpfiend Thanos
Destruction Initiative Enterprise
5
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Posted - 2013.04.15 22:07:00 -
[43] - Quote
JohnFlash wrote:I hope they have someone looking over what people name there mercs because some is just WRONG. Like the one is just saw in game.
party at Auschwitz
Do you really find this name okey??? You must be from USA...
But I stand firmly against all **** behavior, such as censorship. |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2013.04.15 22:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
Warpfiend Thanos wrote:JohnFlash wrote:I hope they have someone looking over what people name there mercs because some is just WRONG. Like the one is just saw in game.
party at Auschwitz
Do you really find this name okey??? You must be from USA... But I stand firmly against all **** behavior, such as censorship.
Im sure that there are plenty of people in Isreal that would find it offensive as well.
I doesnt matter what your political beliefs are anyway. CCP sets the rules and people are expected to abide by them when playing their game and speaking on their forum. If you dont like it, you are free to leave and say whatever you want elsewhere. |
Kushmir Nadian
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
153
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Posted - 2013.04.15 22:39:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Anyone who is saying HTFU should probably know we do take action against people who have offensive names. Please report them through our support mechanisms and we'll deal with them.
glad to hear it. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:18:00 -
[46] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. Someone chose to reveal their idiocy and show their disregard for the lost lives. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch? Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over people wanting to do something about it?
Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
82
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:21:00 -
[47] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. Someone chose to reveal their idiocy and show their disregard for the lost lives. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch? Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over people wanting to do something about it? Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character.
Too late, CCP already reserves the right to change your name if it is found to be offensive.
If it troubles you that much, you're always welcome to leave. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:27:00 -
[48] - Quote
William HBonney wrote:I think there is some reason to be upset over a name like that, especially if you were a Jew or had family members who went through that. Like if someone had the name Sandy Hook playground, or That Columbine Kid. Most people around the world wouldn't get the names, but to suggest that the names weren't meant to stir the pot is ludicrous.
And if you are not a Jew. Would that be ok then? If ppl who were gassed there not only Jews vs only Jews vs just ppl of an unspecified nationality. Would that make any difference to you from a moral stand point? You think most ppl around the world would not know this one of the biggest atrocities perpetrated in human history? I don't even know if I should call this shortsighted or ignorant. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
82
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:William HBonney wrote:I think there is some reason to be upset over a name like that, especially if you were a Jew or had family members who went through that. Like if someone had the name Sandy Hook playground, or That Columbine Kid. Most people around the world wouldn't get the names, but to suggest that the names weren't meant to stir the pot is ludicrous. And if you are not a Jew. Would that be ok then? If ppl who were gassed there not only Jews vs only Jews vs just ppl of an unspecified nationality. Would that make any difference to you from a moral stand point? You think most ppl around the world would not know this one of the biggest atrocities perpetrated in human history? I don't even know if I should call this shortsighted or ignorant.
Jewish people were not the only people killed there on an industrial scale, there were others too.
Wikipedia wrote:Some scholars argue that the mass murder of the Romani and people with disabilities should be included in the definition,[9][10] and some use the common noun "holocaust" to describe other **** mass murders, including those of Soviet prisoners of war, Polish and Soviet civilians, and homosexuals.[11][12] Recent estimates based on figures obtained since the fall of the Soviet Union indicates some ten to eleven million civilians and prisoners of war were intentionally murdered by the **** regime.[13][14]
Just in case you wanted to read the whole article.
The Holocaust |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:
Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character.
Too late, CCP already reserves the right to change your name if it is found to be offensive.
If it troubles you that much, you're always welcome to leave.[/quote]
Yeah well you should have your father fight your battles too. Not just hid behind CCP. I have an opinion that is pertinent in the current discussion. I am happy to share it with you (clearly you did find it interesting enough to comment on) or CCP. If it's too disquieting to you, well why, you are always welcome to leave from my standpoint. |
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
145
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:37:00 -
[51] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:William HBonney wrote:I think there is some reason to be upset over a name like that, especially if you were a Jew or had family members who went through that. Like if someone had the name Sandy Hook playground, or That Columbine Kid. Most people around the world wouldn't get the names, but to suggest that the names weren't meant to stir the pot is ludicrous. And if you are not a Jew. Would that be ok then? If ppl who were gassed there not only Jews vs only Jews vs just ppl of an unspecified nationality. Would that make any difference to you from a moral stand point? You think most ppl around the world would not know this one of the biggest atrocities perpetrated in human history? I don't even know if I should call this shortsighted or ignorant. Jewish people were not the only people killed there on an industrial scale, there were others too. Wikipedia wrote:Some scholars argue that the mass murder of the Romani and people with disabilities should be included in the definition,[9][10] and some use the common noun "holocaust" to describe other **** mass murders, including those of Soviet prisoners of war, Polish and Soviet civilians, and homosexuals.[11][12] Recent estimates based on figures obtained since the fall of the Soviet Union indicates some ten to eleven million civilians and prisoners of war were intentionally murdered by the **** regime.[13][14] Just in case you wanted to read the whole article. The Holocaust
Oh really? Is it not obvious that this is exactly my point. Did you even read what I had to say or you were too engrossed into your own profound thought? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
82
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:41:00 -
[52] - Quote
Wow, just ******* wow, I inform you of something that is legitimately a policy of CCPs and you go off on a tantrum. I'm not even going to bother attempting to reason with you.
In closing though, you should really lrn2quote. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
149
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Posted - 2013.04.16 00:24:00 -
[53] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:Wow, just ******* wow, I inform you of something that is legitimately a policy of CCPs and you go off on a tantrum. I'm not even going to bother attempting to reason with you.
In closing though, you should really lrn2quote.
Nah, lets be fair you did not just inform me of anything. You told to leave the game because my opnion was different than yours and you used a CCP policy quote, so you don't have to even attempt to reason. Apparently you can only copy paste from other sources. So I do understand you rhesidtation to attempt to reason. Btw you did not see a nice row of asterisks in my reply but I see one in yours - so it's not me who is throwing a tantrum. Seems like you are eager to duck from this discussion - that's fine with me. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
487
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Posted - 2013.04.16 07:27:00 -
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Spacetits CDXX wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Spacetits CDXX wrote:To the people crying censorship: Don't pretend that a name invoking the holocaust wasn't meant to offend, and nothing more. Making a toon name like that isn't starting a real discussion on the subject, and this isn't Naked Lunch or Ulysses we're talking about. Could you please rephrase that somehow? I don't understand what you mean. I meant that A) those kind of names in particular are only meant to offend. Usually "censorship", in a broader sense, is associated with stifling ideas or discourse. This simply isn't the case here because there is no discourse going on, it's just a name someone picked to see who he could rile up. B) a username is not in the same category of speech as, for example, literature. Both of the books I mentioned have been censored/banned in various locales, and were later defended on the grounds of having artistic merit (the basis of the US and UK court decisions, at least). Somebody's username is not something you can seriously argue a defence of on those grounds. Well then I agree with that. |
Zooka Booom
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1
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Posted - 2013.04.16 08:16:00 -
[55] - Quote
Warpfiend Thanos wrote:JohnFlash wrote:I hope they have someone looking over what people name there mercs because some is just WRONG. Like the one is just saw in game.
party at Auschwitz
Do you really find this name okey??? You must be from USA... But I stand firmly against all **** behavior, such as censorship.
No im a scandinavian |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
6
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Posted - 2013.04.16 08:39:00 -
[56] - Quote
I actually played a few rounds with Party at Auschwitz, it was just an alt character. The next day, his alt and main got kicked from my corp after an argument that broke out from the alt's name. Sadly, he was a real team player with excellent leadership qualities and would make a good squad leader. Hope he learned his lesson at least.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
890
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Posted - 2013.04.16 08:42:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:
Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character.
When you create a game, you can name your character whatever you want, but this is not your game, this is CCP's game, and if they find that your name could be offensive to others, then they have the right to change it as they see fit.
You can call it whining, but the facts are that somebody chose that name with either the intention to offend, or to promote offensive views, and therefore broke CCP's rules. CCP can decide whether they actually do something about it or not.
Edit: Also, I have a pantie fetish |
Rugman91
Deep Space Republic
161
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Posted - 2013.04.16 09:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Wow this thread is still going. I have to say that i've actually had my mind changed by some well made points. It doesn't happen often. Well done people. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.04.17 07:22:00 -
[59] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:
Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character.
When you create a game, you can name your character whatever you want, but this is not your game, this is CCP's game, and if they find that your name could be offensive to others, then they have the right to change it as they see fit. You can call it whining, but the facts are that somebody chose that name with either the intention to offend, or to promote offensive views, and therefore broke CCP's rules. CCP can decide whether they actually do something about it or not. Edit: Also, I have a pantie fetish
Well, here is the thing. Now you have convinced me. You have the right of it. Here is how I think I should apply my new clarity of vision. Your name is very offensive to me because it is one of the deadly sins and offends my religious feelings. I think you should be reported to CCP and your caracter either erased or you made change the name. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
155
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Posted - 2013.04.17 07:25:00 -
[60] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:I actually played a few rounds with Party at Auschwitz, it was just an alt character. The next day, his alt and main got kicked from my corp after an argument that broke out from the alt's name. Sadly, he was a real team player with excellent leadership qualities and would make a good squad leader. Hope he learned his lesson at least....
This is exactly the kind of stuff I am talking about. The guy had a douche name and got punished by the community. Ppl did not want to associate with him. But wait, the miracle trick is that there was no CCP involved, no police action, just sound reason and sound action from sound members of the community. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
907
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Posted - 2013.04.17 07:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:
Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character.
When you create a game, you can name your character whatever you want, but this is not your game, this is CCP's game, and if they find that your name could be offensive to others, then they have the right to change it as they see fit. You can call it whining, but the facts are that somebody chose that name with either the intention to offend, or to promote offensive views, and therefore broke CCP's rules. CCP can decide whether they actually do something about it or not. Edit: Also, I have a pantie fetish Well, here is the thing. Now you have convinced me. You have the right of it. Here is how I think I should apply my new clarity of vision. Your name is very offensive to me because it is one of the deadly sins and offends my religious feelings. I think you should be reported to CCP and your caracter either erased or you made change the name. But who could ever be offended by sloths? They're such cute little creatures :3
http://www.artifacting.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/slothy1.jpg |
CommanderBolt
Anonymous Killers Mercenary Corporation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.17 08:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name.
The AK-47 may have possibly been used in more wars and have killed more people than any other assault rifle in the world. Does this mean I cannot use it at all in any sort of naming? (I didnt here but I usually use the AK power somewhere)
Oh wait, Commanders usually oversee battles, battles end up with people dead in the real world. I guess my name, too, is offensive :( |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2544
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Posted - 2013.04.17 09:02:00 -
[63] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:The AK-47 may have possibly been used in more wars and have killed more people than any other assault rifle in the world. Does this mean I cannot use it at all in any sort of naming? (I didnt here but I usually use the AK power somewhere)
Oh wait, Commanders usually oversee battles, battles end up with people dead in the real world. I guess my name, too, is offensive :( You're aware that certain place names take on symbolism based on major historic events that occur there, right?
You're aware that there is no place called "AK-47" which has done so, right? You're aware that there is also no place called "Commander" which has done so, right?
If you're going to make comparisons, make RELEVANT comparisons. Auschwitz is a name associated VERY strongly with the events that happened there. And those events were horrific, and bringing them up can be not merely offensive, but potentially traumatic for some people I know, so I'm sorry, but you don't have an argument. Please try again. |
Baal Omniscient
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
466
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Posted - 2013.04.17 11:22:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP has had rules for names for a long time in Eve for a reason. Complaining about censorship in a realm where even the slightest of offensive words is " **** "d out is pointless. You knew they didn't put up with vulgar or potentially offensive language being publicly displayed if you'd ever read the rules of the forums. Being offensive in no way improves your gaming experience other than for your own amusement, and when that amusement has the potential to make others uncomfortable it becomes a potential liability. And CCP has no interest in keeping around a potential liability when it is entirely unnecessary in any way.
TL;DR: Quit being a whiny ***** about it, it has nothing to do with the game. |
Faquira Bleuetta
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.04.17 13:39:00 -
[65] - Quote
cute OY VEY!!! shame on you anti-semite aryan ***** woo want to kill 6 million jew there only one solution to ur race of devil to fix the problem lots of tis ***** posting : Orbital strike Dresden style
http://www.3-ch.info/whitearyan/waiwp/jews/A%20Wyatt%20Mann%202/1306375263208.jpg |
Baal Omniscient
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
467
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:15:00 -
[66] - Quote
ummm.... I lost you there... I got the "national socialist" related comments, but kinda confused on who it's aimed at, why someone is having this directed at them, and why you think it's necessary to say such a thing here. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2549
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:28:00 -
[67] - Quote
Baal Omniscient wrote:ummm.... I lost you there... I got the "national socialist" related comments, but kinda confused on who it's aimed at, why someone is having this directed at them, and why you think it's necessary to say such a thing here. 1. Try re-reading the OP. 2. Look at the name being used as an example of an offensive character name. 3. Type the only word from the name which has a capital letter into your search engine of choice. 4. Realise why the name was offensive.
For many people, step 2 leads directly into step 4, and there is no need to follow step 3, but if you're unsure of the problem after step 2, you might need to brush up on your history. |
Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:07:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. Someone chose to reveal their idiocy and show their disregard for the lost lives. Why are you getting your panties in a bunch? Why are you getting your panties in a bunch over people wanting to do something about it? Lol why are you getting your panties in a bunch over me getting mine in a bunch? My serious answer is because it's a bunch of whining. You start with names because someone finds something offensive and end up with a game where unicorns throws marshmellows at each other because otherwise FPS promotes violence. I don't want you or anyone else impose restrictions on what I can name my character.
I understand people being against censorship, but censorship on a public gaming forum, where impressionable people can freely view player names, and censorship akin to Chairman Mao's reign over China are two different branches of two wholly different trees.
Take for example, (I have nothing against any body of people, btw) I made an alt called, 'Yanks are stereotypically stupid' or 'party on 9/11', people would be rightly up in arms, and so they should be.
Censoring information in the forums of news reports, radio broadcasts, et al, is wrong, a game on the other hand is not.
CCP is not a democracy, and we do not vote on their rules, so either abide by them or sadly gtfo. |
Chojine Dentetsu
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2013.04.17 16:10:00 -
[69] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:VulvaOfTheYeast wrote:If something as slight as a name bothers you, perhaps all you Dust and Eve players should...
...wait for it...
...HTFU!
For once, that silly acronym applies. Bunch of pansies! The word "Auschwitz" is the name of the N A Z I death camp (now a museum) in Germany that reportedly killed more Jews during WWII than any other such camps. It's not just a name. The AK-47 may have possibly been used in more wars and have killed more people than any other assault rifle in the world. Does this mean I cannot use it at all in any sort of naming? (I didnt here but I usually use the AK power somewhere) Oh wait, Commanders usually oversee battles, battles end up with people dead in the real world. I guess my name, too, is offensive :(
Technically no, as both sides have commanders, so by proxy you would not be offensive...
I love answering sarcasm with irony :).
To answer your AK line:
GÇ£A weapon does not decide whether or not to kill. A weapon is a manifestation of a decision that has already been made.GÇ¥ GÇò Steven Galloway |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
10
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Posted - 2013.04.17 17:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
i know they wont let you use the name Adolf ****** either, kinda lame its not like those things should be forgotten and swept under a rug so it may happen again, regardless if you support death-camps and dictators or not you shouldn't restrict their expression.
PS. see i cant even mention the name ****** without getting sensored even on the fourm. |
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Berneh DustFace
187.
16
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Posted - 2013.04.17 17:59:00 -
[71] - Quote
in before lock, also as an unrelated note i cant have "DayZ" as my clan rag in black ops 2 on the PS3 flipping fascists everywhere |
da master beta
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:11:00 -
[72] - Quote
My handle is stupid and i regret using it (i didn't expect dust to be so fun). If i report myself since my handle could be construed as sexually offensive, can ccp force me to change my name? (My name will be out of context once dust goes alpha too). I *want* to change my name. |
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