I have this question,if my corp joins alliance which are caldari loyalist,and i play faction warfares in gallente side.Does this affect my character,and which way it affects my character? sorry my grammar

If you corp joins an alliance enlisted in the Caldari militia your corp (and you) will also be enlisted in thte caldari militia.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

I'd rather see a benefit to those that want to commit.

Your current take on this is to force everyone into one role, the true mercenary. Its like saying all EVE pilots should be mission runners or have to join a null sec alliance and fight for their warlord.

I want to fight for the Minmatar. I want to pledge my loyalty, wave the flag and in return receive a benefit for being loyal to the Minmatar. I should earn access to faction gear and be able to skin my equipment in Minmatar camouflage.

Stop trying to tell me what I am or I'll start calling you Soxy again.

Lolwut? This kind of thing would completely defeat the purpose of the whole immortal mercenary backstory of Dust. Especially if you include faction specific/better equipment as a result. People would be forced to pick a side to remain competitive, effectively eliminating the need for true mercenaries. I'm not sure how Eve works but I've seen hints that each faction has their own "philosophy" and play style that will affect their specific equipment. You can ally with a faction without expecting CCP to reward you. Just require that everyone in your corp use faction specific equipment and only take contracts from that faction. There, you are effectively allied with that faction.

It would pay off in its own way. The major flaw in the merc business is the lack of loyalty. Sure you can hire this corp to help even the odds against someone who is richer or better equipped, but that richer opponent can just buy off those mercenaries to back stab you. However, a patriotic flag waving corp can be trusted not to be bought out by your opponent from another group. They may be at a disadvantage since they're committed to one type of equipment, but at least they will be loyal. Trustworthiness will be just as important as quality when it comes to hiring a corp, so making yourself loyal to a specific customer base will pay in your favor.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

Lolwut? This kind of thing would completely defeat the purpose of the whole immortal mercenary backstory of Dust. Especially if you include faction specific/better equipment as a result. People would be forced to pick a side to remain competitive, effectively eliminating the need for true mercenaries. I'm not sure how Eve works but I've seen hints that each faction has their own "philosophy" and play style that will affect their specific equipment. You can ally with a faction without expecting CCP to reward you. Just require that everyone in your corp use faction specific equipment and only take contracts from that faction. There, you are effectively allied with that faction.

It would pay off in its own way. The major flaw in the merc business is the lack of loyalty. Sure you can hire this corp to help even the odds against someone who is richer or better equipped, but that richer opponent can just buy off those mercenaries to back stab you. However, a patriotic flag waving corp can be trusted not to be bought out by your opponent from another group. They may be at a disadvantage since they're committed to one type of equipment, but at least they will be loyal. Trustworthiness will be just as important as quality when it comes to hiring a corp, so making yourself loyal to a specific customer base will pay in your favor.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

That's sad. :(

There should be rewards for sticking with a side and drawbacks to switching sides too much.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

We don't currently have any plans for any kind of standings for DUST mercenaries participating in FW. As it stands we would rather see DUST players playing for the side they want to, and more importantly the side that will pay more.

do the devs ever play in-game?

Yes we do.

There is already zero difference between the motivations of a capsuleer and the motivations of a mercenary. We're both free agents, we both want ISK and we'll both screw anyone over to get it.

The only difference is our combat capabilities.

You cannot remove standings from Dust without also admitting you believe it was a mistake to have it in Eve in the first place.

And a lot of people would take up arms over that assessment.

So yea, basically I disagree.



We have the chance to make the motivations different. We don't have to make DUST and EVE characters have the same motivation for participating in FW. I didn't say we wouldn't introduce standings, just that we have no plans now.


There are plenty of differences and we can make it as different or similar as we want. The discussion should be about what we think those differences and similarities should be, not what the must be just because the other game has it that way. These are two games, we must do what is best for each as they play very differently.



Um... we haven't added them to DUST so there is no removing... so... yea...



OK... that discussion is on the EVE teams. Our focus is on making DUST players care about FW and making it fun for them. We care about the link between the two, but the details on the EVE side of FW are up to the EVE teams. How FW works in DUST should not be the deciding factor in how it works in EVE.

However much we at CCP like to talk about two games in one universe and all that jazz, the fact remains that these are two games. A gameplay element for one game is not necessarily good for the other.

Yes we do.

and yet y'all talk about not opening up the market cause y'all don't want to screw up your precious EVE

what was that about dust and eve teams being independent and doing what's best for THEIR game????

bet you use alts

Yes, just like in EVE our identities must be kept a secret. :)

It's not just about not screwing up EVE, it's about not screwing up DUST as well.

We have teams that work on both projects, like the team I am on. We touch both EVE code and DUST code. I personally go to the EVE daily design meetings and am kept in the loop of what they are doing just as they are kept in the loop on what we are doing.

We are not say "only do what is best for one game or the other" and neither are we saying "only do what is best for the combined game."

We are trying to make all three products, DUST, EVE, and DUST/EVE awesome. The games have to be able to stand on their own, but we also want an awesome and meaningful link between them.

so you can join any corps you want?



that sounds like favoritism....


didn't that create a firestorm in eve when a DEV abused his powers?

so you can join any corps you want?



that sounds like favoritism....


didn't that create a firestorm in eve when a DEV abused his powers?

It did cause problems once, yes. That's why CCP now has an Internal Affairs team that ensures that nobody abuses their insider knowledge or uses any 'DevHax' to game the system.

Also, FoxFour = Batman?

EDIT: FoxFour also = Ninja - Dammit!

How will factions compete for our support. Also, how will you keep all the mercs from going to one corp because they promise the most money?

There are plenty of differences and we can make it as different or similar as we want. The discussion should be about what we think those differences and similarities should be, not what the must be just because the other game has it that way. These are two games, we must do what is best for each as they play very differently.

Adding the awesome LP store with faction weapons/vehicles would also go along way to keeping us

lol this not coming in Uprising? gg? lol
how hard is it to bring out some Faction weapons and vehicles??? just alter some stats and new paint scheme :/

Last I heard, it was stuff like faction specific high end loot that was one of the main motivators for sticking to a faction, another possibility being faction Loyalty Points (LP) which you would earn by participating in FW battle and LP stores where you would trade the LP for powerful faction specific gear. The motivation in both being that to earn the best version of what you want, you would need to keep playing for the faction that gives you it.

The above is mostly old, probably out of date info and speculation and should be treated as such. (Basically, don't take it as gospel)

There is ofc RP and RL motivators - RP being that you hate the Amarr slavers and will therefore fight for the Minmatar. RL reasons being that you hate (for arguments sake) the Imperfects, who have aligned themselves with the Caldari, so you go and fight for the Gallente.

That just so happens to be the incredibly difficult part to get right.

My question is if Mercs work for faction. Will we get LP for faction gear? BecauseThat is really what I want to see.

No comment?

I like this idea CCP has for us mercs. All factions see us basically as "guns", you don't buy a gun and ask: "Who has been shot by this gun before? Anybody I know?" (Well IRL you might ask). I'll fight for you with 100% dedication while you pay me, if at the end of our contract you decide not to rehire me, then you understand that I will be a free agent and possibly fighting against you the day after my contract expires.

Also, how dare you people make CCP Foxfour answer real questions about real Dev related things?! We already have people that do that, they are called "everybody but Foxfour"

Maybe we should be able to choose free "faction fittings" when we engage in FW battles. The level of the suits could increase as we engage in more battles for that faction as they become sure we can be trusted with the expensive stuff.

No comment?

As someone else points out, I was asleep.

As for LP for fight? We are not introducing LP in Uprising. That does not mean never, just we have other priorities for now.

As someone else points out, I was asleep.

As for LP for fight? We are not introducing LP in Uprising. That does not mean never, just we have other priorities for now.

As someone else points out, I was asleep.

Sleeping? Then Uprising really is in Sony QA.

That is a really interesting connection you have made there.... not sure how I feel about it. Does it also mean I am done Fanfest preparation or that I was just resting before digging into it?

I suppose you deserve a day of rest now and then.