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slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
139
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:48:00 -
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My first opinion is that it is pretty bad. The UI is ugly, the controls feel strange, its impossible to apply to a corp, and I'm just waiting to finish the tutorial missions so I can get ganked over and over by someone who has way better gear than me. Besides, you can't even get a half decent ship without grinding for hours and waiting even longer for skills to train, and then navigating the incredibly complicated marketplace to find a deal that may or may not be screwing you over. If I ever figure out how to join the corp I am currently enlisted in in dust, I'm asking them for plex 'cause i'm not paying for this. |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:52:00 -
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Did you apply to TEST? Isn't PRO in that alliance? Dreddit is extremely helpful to new players. Or apply to EVE University they are really helpful |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
935
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:55:00 -
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1. The UI is customizable due to depth; the amount of information needed makes putting an easy to navigate UI difficult at best, and still manage to find everything relatively easily. 2. This is not a WASD game; you will use your overview for navigation. 3. Applying to a corp is easy - you click "show info" on the corp, then click "apply to corp" at the bottom; the interview process that a lot of corps use can be complext - pick one that is casual if you don't want to feel like you are applying for a job 4. You will get good frigates for free as part of the tutorials 5. The skill tree being 100% passive means you don't have to grind needless missions to level up, and can take time off so you don't have to play when you don't feel like it, and won't feel penalized when you come back. 6. There are plenty of things to purchase at the low end of the spectrum which are effective and and inexpensive; playing with them to find your favorite is best - check the bonuses to see what each has a role for and use the ship for that role insted of going against the grain 7. The market place is sortable based on price/location 8. A plex costs about 600 million ISK; I wouldn't expect someone to give you one given it is more expensive than most of the ships in the game. |
Dr Debo Galaxy
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
317
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:58:00 -
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this is funny |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
70
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:01:00 -
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You have to go to the station that they have a HQ at. Then you can apply. You have to apply in person.
As for everything else... there is no other game like EVE. That means the UI might feel crappy cause it is so vastly different from the norm you are use to. Who knows if there was a better way to include everything, you should have seen it before. The skills are completely time based, that means you don't have to grind on anything that is existential.
You only need to find resources to build your ship, or go fight for isk to buy the ship you are skilling into. If you want to be a fighter, you fight pirates for isk. If you want to be a miner, you mine minerals for isk. You don't have to mine minerals to be a great fighter... ever. If you want to be a space trucker, you take contracts to haul boxes across the solar system... for... you guessed it... isk. You just make due with what you have until you are secure enough to move up into a stronger/better ship for the role you want to play.
EVE is not for everyone, but EVE is great at what it does. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
139
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:05:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:1. The UI is customizable due to depth; the amount of information needed makes putting an easy to navigate UI difficult at best, and still manage to find everything relatively easily. 2. This is not a WASD game; you will use your overview for navigation. 3. Applying to a corp is easy - you click "show info" on the corp, then click "apply to corp" at the bottom; the interview process that a lot of corps use can be complext - pick one that is casual if you don't want to feel like you are applying for a job 4. You will get good frigates for free as part of the tutorials 5. The skill tree being 100% passive means you don't have to grind needless missions to level up, and can take time off so you don't have to play when you don't feel like it, and won't feel penalized when you come back. 6. There are plenty of things to purchase at the low end of the spectrum which are effective and and inexpensive; playing with them to find your favorite is best - check the bonuses to see what each has a role for and use the ship for that role insted of going against the grain 7. The market place is sortable based on price/location 8. A plex costs about 600 million ISK; I wouldn't expect someone to give you one given it is more expensive than most of the ships in the game. Well, thanks for the info. From what i've seen, plex costs about 500 mil, and from what i've heard, a single player can have over a billion isk. In a large corp with many players paying taxes, they would theoretically have a lot of isk. Also, please tell me how to get to a list of corps, as all I can find is the list to search adverts |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
936
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:06:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:You have to go to the station that they have a HQ at. Then you can apply. You have to apply in person.
As for everything else... there is no other game like EVE. That means the UI might feel crappy cause it is so vastly different from the norm you are use to. Who knows if there was a better way to include everything, you should have seen it before. The skills are completely time based, that means you don't have to grind on anything that is existential.
You only need to find resources to build your ship, or go fight for isk to buy the ship you are skilling into. If you want to be a fighter, you fight pirates for isk. If you want to be a miner, you mine minerals for isk. You don't have to mine minerals to be a great fighter... ever. If you want to be a space trucker, you take contracts to haul boxes across the solar system... for... you guessed it... isk. You just make due with what you have until you are secure enough to move up into a stronger/better ship for the role you want to play.
EVE is not for everyone, but EVE is great at what it does.
You no longer have to be at their home station; you just have to be docked in any station; this was changed years ago |
Smergud
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:06:00 -
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Stick to console games. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
70
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:07:00 -
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Awesome. Yeah its been a while for me. I still long to play the game, but can't justify 15 a month atm for a game I would barely be able to play. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
936
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:09:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:1. The UI is customizable due to depth; the amount of information needed makes putting an easy to navigate UI difficult at best, and still manage to find everything relatively easily. 2. This is not a WASD game; you will use your overview for navigation. 3. Applying to a corp is easy - you click "show info" on the corp, then click "apply to corp" at the bottom; the interview process that a lot of corps use can be complext - pick one that is casual if you don't want to feel like you are applying for a job 4. You will get good frigates for free as part of the tutorials 5. The skill tree being 100% passive means you don't have to grind needless missions to level up, and can take time off so you don't have to play when you don't feel like it, and won't feel penalized when you come back. 6. There are plenty of things to purchase at the low end of the spectrum which are effective and and inexpensive; playing with them to find your favorite is best - check the bonuses to see what each has a role for and use the ship for that role insted of going against the grain 7. The market place is sortable based on price/location 8. A plex costs about 600 million ISK; I wouldn't expect someone to give you one given it is more expensive than most of the ships in the game. Well, thanks for the info. From what i've seen, plex costs about 500 mil, and from what i've heard, a single player can have over a billion isk. In a large corp with many players paying taxes, they would theoretically have a lot of isk. Also, please tell me how to get to a list of corps, as all I can find is the list to search adverts
A corp's ISK is used to pay for station services for your corp, as well as to provide other in game benefits (replace ships when they are lost for free or using the ISK to offer a discounted cost), provide ammo at no charge, maintain Player Owned Starbases, etc.
Also, the corps are typically less rich than the players as a result. The purpose of the corp is not to pay for your subscription, they are there to add content in game to you. |
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Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
98
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:10:00 -
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Spreadsheets ... In ... Space!
(I'm only half joking.)
Eve's interface is unintuitive and clunky, and the game as a whole is not for everyone. It's vicious, cutthroat, and unforgiving.
... which is reason enough for me to love it.
If you can get past the learning cliff and find your niche, it is one of the most rewarding experiences in online gaming. Do take advantage of other players, do not let them take advantage of you, and try to find a solid group to fly with as soon as you can.
There are tutorials on the forums for almost any role you can imagine, from mining to piracy, often in the form of logs. Use them. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
255
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:11:00 -
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I would advise against TEST. I ran with TEST for a while, and they're mostly tools. I've heard great things about EVE Uni, they should be able to help you adjust to pod life. If I hadn't had to drop my subscription due to school I'd offer you a spot in my corp.
The application process is a bit stringent, but with all the spies and griefing they probably get, I can't blame them. |
Moren DeKaza
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
0
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:15:00 -
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EVE takes a bit more patience than what I think your putting into it slypie11, then again its not for everyone. From what ive seen personally however the innovation and depth in both gameplay and possibilities with which ccp provides you is far beyond what other games provide in this day and age. Not only is it one of the few games in which a player can seemingly work for their subscription but it also establishes a universe largely influenced by the player base its self and how to respond to that universe. Give the game some time, figure out what you want to do from tutorials, then join a starter corp. If the game still doesn't interest you, finish the free trial and move on.
Best I can say, hope things turn out better for you in game. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
936
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:15:00 -
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Tarquin Markel wrote:Spreadsheets ... In ... Space!
(I'm only half joking.)
Eve's interface is unintuitive and clunky, and the game as a whole is not for everyone. It's vicious, cutthroat, and unforgiving.
... which is reason enough for me to love it.
If you can get past the learning cliff and find your niche, it is one of the most rewarding experiences in online gaming. Do take advantage of other players, do not let them take advantage of you, and try to find a solid group to fly with as soon as you can.
There are tutorials on the forums for almost any role you can imagine, from mining to piracy, often in the form of logs. Use them.
This. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3407
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:17:00 -
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Seems like a troll post. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
936
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:54:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seems like a troll post.
Agreed,. but I was bored at work so I thought I would give it a go. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3407
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Posted - 2013.04.12 23:11:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seems like a troll post. Agreed,. but I was bored at work so I thought I would give it a go.
No no no to combat this post is to counter troll by stating the stupid obvious things and features eve has. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
938
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Seems like a troll post. Agreed,. but I was bored at work so I thought I would give it a go. No no no to combat this post is to counter troll by stating the stupid obvious things and features eve has.
I never was good at trolling... this is evidence of that. I will endeavor to learn, Jedi Master - teach me |
Skillzo Fixo
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:58:00 -
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These are the tears they drink on Eve. Been playing for a month over there, already makin ISK off dudes like you. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
1971
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Posted - 2013.04.13 01:00:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:From what i've seen, plex costs about 500 mil, and from what i've heard, a single player can have over a billion isk. In a large corp with many players paying taxes, they would theoretically have a lot of isk. Also, please tell me how to get to a list of corps, as all I can find is the list to search adverts
It is true that many Eve players (we call them capsuleers by the way) have as much as a billion ISK in their wallets on average if they are good at managing at what they are doing. Many of these wealthy players combine their sources for maximum profit. They would likely mine in high sec while their buy/sell orders are being processed and while their planetary colonies are producing commodities which are used to add to the manufacturing chain they got going. If they are not mining, they are mission running instead. I have met a capsuleer not too long ago who has tens of billions of ISK on his wallet alone (not accounting for assets) because he practically does everything in the game including diving into wormholes, mission running, low-sec roaming, tech-II production, invention, etc.
But please keep in mind that PLEX is not something any wealthy player is willing to give you on the spot. If a players does give you one, they are either being extremely generous (which is rare) or they are expecting a return from you. If they are expecting a return from you, don't expect to get off so easily when you default on your loan as they are capable of hiring mercenaries to hunt you down. So be careful who you accept PLEX from. |
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J Lav
Lost-Legion Orion Empire
52
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Posted - 2013.04.13 01:06:00 -
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Eve is a business simulation dressed up in a space costume. Some people love that. |
Skillzo Fixo
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.13 01:13:00 -
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J Lav wrote:Eve is a business simulation dressed up in a space costume. Some people love that.
It is definitely one of my favorite aspects. It is unfortunate that the RP has been removed from the MMORPG though, its really just a MMOG for the most part. |
Maken Tosch
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
1971
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Posted - 2013.04.13 01:16:00 -
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Skillzo Fixo wrote:J Lav wrote:Eve is a business simulation dressed up in a space costume. Some people love that. It is definitely one of my favorite aspects. It is unfortunate that the RP has been removed from the MMORPG though, its really just a MMOG for the most part.
Don't speak so soon. Ask anyone where the RP channels are they will point it out for you. Also, stop by at the pleasure hub whenever you get the chance and let me know how it goes. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
88
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Posted - 2013.04.13 01:20:00 -
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If you want to learn to pvp join Red vs Blue. Its two corps who are constantly at war with each other who are dedicated to teaching people how to pvp and use tech 1 frigates and cruisers so you will be able to fill roles in the fleets.
Also in high sec you won't get ganked by other players unless your corp is at war with another corp. If another player does attack you they will be quickly dispatched by concord. Once you are confident in your abilities you can then head to low sec and null sec. After one month of play you will have enough skill points in order to fullfill a role in most null sec fleets.
I recommend joining Red vs Blue, or finding a training corp for one of the major alliances the teaches new people in high sec before moving them to low sec. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
139
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Posted - 2013.04.13 03:43:00 -
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Yeah, thanks for the help and all, but i don't really think EVE is right for me. I prefer the fast pace and relative obviousness of an FPS game like dust. Besides, I hate monthly subscriptions. So, see you all on the flip side so to speak, and I'll be looking forward to the update that let's us fire back at those spreadsheet loving space business men. |
Tarquin Markel
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
100
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Posted - 2013.04.13 03:44:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:If another player does attack you they will be quickly dispatched by concord.
While this is true, please to bear in mind that this does not make you safe.
If you carry loot enough to make you worth the trouble, people will often suicide gank you for the ISKies.
If you do not carry loot enough to make you worth the trouble, people will rarely suicide gank you for the lulz.
Never, ever carry all your assets in one ship. Ever. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.13 04:02:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:slypie11 wrote:From what i've seen, plex costs about 500 mil, and from what i've heard, a single player can have over a billion isk. In a large corp with many players paying taxes, they would theoretically have a lot of isk. Also, please tell me how to get to a list of corps, as all I can find is the list to search adverts It is true that many Eve players (we call them capsuleers by the way) have as much as a billion ISK in their wallets on average if they are good at managing at what they are doing. Many of these wealthy players combine their sources for maximum profit. They would likely mine in high sec while their buy/sell orders are being processed and while their planetary colonies are producing commodities which are used to add to the manufacturing chain they got going. If they are not mining, they are mission running instead. I have met a capsuleer not too long ago who has tens of billions of ISK on his wallet alone (not accounting for assets) because he practically does everything in the game including diving into wormholes, mission running, low-sec roaming, tech-II production, invention, etc. But please keep in mind that PLEX is not something any wealthy player is willing to give you on the spot. If a players does give you one, they are either being extremely generous (which is rare) or they are expecting a return from you. If they are expecting a return from you, don't expect to get off so easily when you default on your loan as they are capable of hiring mercenaries to hunt you down. So be careful who you accept PLEX from. if you find somebody stupid enough to give out a plex just trade it to a other character and screw that guy over. Scam is legit in eve and if you trust any 1 too much you will get screwed hard. |
Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
256
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Posted - 2013.04.13 07:12:00 -
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Heh. Eve rule #2: If it seems like a scam; it's a scam. If it doesn't seem like a scam; it's a really good scam. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2013.04.13 07:15:00 -
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J Lav wrote:Eve is a business simulation dressed up in a space costume. Some people love that.
I like it for the same reason I like armored core: Customization ****. there may be a thousand ships that look like mine, but this one is exactly to my specifications.
that and I like the caldari and minmatar style of ships. they're not so much pretty, as realistic. |
Talryn Vilneram
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:slypie11 wrote:From what i've seen, plex costs about 500 mil, and from what i've heard, a single player can have over a billion isk. In a large corp with many players paying taxes, they would theoretically have a lot of isk. Also, please tell me how to get to a list of corps, as all I can find is the list to search adverts It is true that many Eve players (we call them capsuleers by the way) have as much as a billion ISK in their wallets on average if they are good at managing at what they are doing. Many of these wealthy players combine their sources for maximum profit. They would likely mine in high sec while their buy/sell orders are being processed and while their planetary colonies are producing commodities which are used to add to the manufacturing chain they got going. If they are not mining, they are mission running instead. I have met a capsuleer not too long ago who has tens of billions of ISK on his wallet alone (not accounting for assets) because he practically does everything in the game including diving into wormholes, mission running, low-sec roaming, tech-II production, invention, etc. But please keep in mind that PLEX is not something any wealthy player is willing to give you on the spot. If a players does give you one, they are either being extremely generous (which is rare) or they are expecting a return from you. If they are expecting a return from you, don't expect to get off so easily when you default on your loan as they are capable of hiring mercenaries to hunt you down. So be careful who you accept PLEX from.
UP TO a billion? I personally have 15 billion liquid ISK and maybe another 15 billion in assets. And I'm only moderatly wealthy for my characters age. There are people with hundreds of billions of ISK |
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