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PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:29:00 -
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Its not fair. The standard forge gun is 1200 dmg & the standard railgun is 1106? Do you see the size difference between the two? Rail guns should be twice as stronger than a crappy forge gun. Then again this game s broken when it comes to AV balance. |
Psychotic Shooter
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:31:00 -
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I agree like the militia forge does 1200hp damage and the militia railgun does 900hp damage might as well mount forge guns to our tanks |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:38:00 -
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I got the an idea for this nerf them both, just nerf forge guns more to say 850 and well militia rail can stay and nerf the higher levels... seems fitting to me. |
Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:55:00 -
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You need balance in these regards, and while a FG can produce that kind of damage its limited optical sights, where as rails are enhanced by zoom features allowing for more precision targeting.
That said railguns overheat, FGs dont but FGs are limted by ammo that rais are not and when you get the skills specced properly the rails i do believe can out DPS a FG, i could be wrong on that.
Point is base damage is only once factor to consider when looking at weapon balance.
To me total DPS, reliability(accuracy), and sustainability over x amount of time is the factors that matter in weapon balance. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:59:00 -
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Railguns have higher DPS, higher accuracy, higher range, infinite ammo, a several thousand HP firing platform and can fire whilst moving at speed. |
PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:01:00 -
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It does not seem right to make such a small gun stronger than a railgun |
2-Ton Twenty-One
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:11:00 -
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PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163 wrote:It does not seem right to make such a small gun stronger than a railgun
Stronger is relative, that forge gunner cannot shoot as far, he cant take dmg like a railgun tank, he has no small turrets, he is not resistant to infantry fire, a sniper can kill him. he has ammo, his shots are far more visible, slower and you others can more easily see their flight path, he cant regen his total health in a few seconds. hes slower. |
BulletSnitcheZ
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:16:00 -
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PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163 wrote:It does not seem right to make such a small gun stronger than a railgun
And don't forget that the projectile speed is much faster on a forge gun. How can something like this even be possible? Since when do handheld weapons outperform vehicle-mounted turrets in so many different ways? |
ugg reset
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.04.12 22:41:00 -
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comparing a forge gun to a Large rail gun is like comparing a grenade to a mass driver. sure the forge deals out more damage but a rail can fire in rapid succession after one short charge. not to mention all the skill that can be use to passively boost the damage as much as 35% without damage mods or the marauder skill. Hell, heat sinks alone make up for the rail guns lack of dammage. |
Eris Ernaga
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:50:00 -
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The difference between militia and the proto forge gun are minimal and they need to be paced back a bit with militia being around 900 and people who want to skill into the proto forge guns still getting the same amount. It's just forge gunning shouldn't be something you can pick up and blow everything up with. It like everything else should require skill, experience, and proto to make it the most effective on the field. I guess you could say proto is still better but militia is a bit to much of a kick and to easy to get even more true is how easy the standard forge guns are to get and use. |
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Eris Ernaga
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:51:00 -
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ugg reset wrote:comparing a forge gun to a Large rail gun is like comparing a grenade to a mass driver. sure the forge deals out more damage but a rail can fire in rapid succession after one short charge. not to mention all the skill that can be use to passively boost the damage as much as 35% without damage mods or the marauder skill. Hell, heat sinks alone make up for the rail guns lack of dammage.
Forge guns can be fired in rapid succession as well and you can easily have two forge gunners firing in rapid succession for what? 3 to 4 shots? |
Eris Ernaga
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:53:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163 wrote:It does not seem right to make such a small gun stronger than a railgun Stronger is relative, that forge gunner cannot shoot as far, he cant take dmg like a railgun tank, he has no small turrets, he is not resistant to infantry fire, a sniper can kill him. he has ammo, his shots are far more visible, slower and you others can more easily see their flight path, he cant regen his total health in a few seconds. hes slower.
A lot of that is true but its irrelevant to the damage they are dealing out and you forgot to mention the heavy is probably 5 to tens times cheaper. The heavy also comes with natural armor and shield that put him over any dropsuit his high damage allows him to push back or completely destroy vehicles. I have had a proto forge gunner (Yes some who knew what he was doing) hit me for 3,000 damage in one shot. It's the pure dps in this game that wins hands down it's not the shield mods and shield buffs it really is the damage. |
Eris Ernaga
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:55:00 -
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Also forge guns are super accurate when it comes to infantry and a heavy will be guaranteed enough shield and armor to completely wreck a dropsuit before he dies. I have seen some forge gunners with insane accuracy. |
Drothgar von Haggis
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Posted - 2013.04.13 06:10:00 -
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PIMP MAC DADDY 2100374163 wrote:Its not fair. The standard forge gun is 1200 dmg & the standard railgun is 1106? Do you see the size difference between the two? Rail guns should be twice as stronger than a crappy forge gun. Then again this game s broken when it comes to AV balance.
IRL a javelin is more powerful than a round from a Bradley so your argument is irrelevant. Quit crying. |
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