DUST Search - Armor HAVs are EzMode

Mr Turtlez wrote:

BOZ MR wrote:

Mr Turtlez wrote:

BOZ MR wrote:

The stup1dness of this OP has no limits.
Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY.
You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR?
Shield gets more survivability against AI.
Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME?
Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON?
Are forge guns turning corners while you run away?
Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI?
(This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.)
Can you rep your armor by it self as Shield tanks rep shields?
You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do.

That is the stupidest post i have ever seen. You do realize that Slap and 0 are considered two of the best shield tanks in the game? A shield tank will never be good at AI unless you fit for reps. And then you will lose to armor tanks allday. Hence why shield tanks are just full passive fit and can only **** other tanks. And even then only 1 at a time and have to then wait for shields to go up unless the other tank was terrible.

It does not make it Valid if a guy who is "considered" best shield tanker says something. I can fight with blasters with anyone that claims to be best tanker.

You'll lose all your suryas like the rest of them. Mavado even stopped calling them in against us.

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Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 262	Posted - 2013.04.11 23:26:00 - [31] - Quote 0 , if think is easy mode, wana test later how my swarms hit on yr armor vs yr shield? :P . they only 3-4pop mad's through reps & stuff , haha
Vyzion Eyri The Legion Academy ROFL BROS 454	Posted - 2013.04.11 23:53:00 - [32] - Quote The greatest advantage armour has over shields (vehicles) is their respective hardeners' durations. Typically, it takes more than 10 seconds (shield hardener duration) between the first bit of AV to the last to destroy a tank or dropship. If a pilot tries to second guess the enemy and activate the hardener before any AV is fired off, the hardener is useless for the next 30 seconds and you're screwed. If you equip two hardeners, eHP will be too low for it to matter. Now, armour hardeners, as we all know, lasts 60 seconds, with a cool down of 15. 6x the duration and half the cool down time of a shield hardener. This means resistance is up long enough to activate before any enemies are in sight, roll or fly in, kill, and get out, all before its even cooling down. So yes, when you play it right, armour is definitely easier to use for anti-infantry. Shields are, due to ther passive regeneration, good at staying far behind the battle (rails) or in a dropships case skirting the edges, taking minimal damage (snipers, militia swarms) and deploying troops behind enemy lines. Once again though, for anti-infantry armour wins. I created a 360k armour dropship yesterday, and it lasted 2 games longer (for a whopping total of 3) than my average 1-game lifespan of my shield dropship. (500k) In the first game, my gunners got 4-5 kills. Second, 15 kills. The last game we managed to get around 6-7 before there was too much AV to survive. Even taking two forge guns and swarms, I lasted long enough to get away and drop my gunners off in safety before dying.
Beld Errmon Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 566	Posted - 2013.04.11 23:55:00 - [33] - Quote There is so much dumb in this thread I fear for our species, did someone really say armor is better at AI and shields AV?
Vyzion Eyri The Legion Academy ROFL BROS 454	Posted - 2013.04.12 00:06:00 - [34] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: There is so much dumb in this thread I fear for our species, did someone really say armor is better at AI and shields AV? I said armour was better at AI, and I feel it's true. I've only used militia tanks, though, and most of my experience is based on dropships. I don't feel as if the two vehicle are dissimilar beyond comparison, however.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2745	Posted - 2013.04.12 00:36:00 - [35] - Quote 0 Try Harder wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: As armor tanker I have to tell that: As someone who can go into the game, read, and try out, I can tell you lots of things too! Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Shield tanks are much faster then armor ones. Step 1: Get off forums and go turn on DUST Step 2: Look at the marketplace. Look at speed of armor vs shield. Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Shield tanks are faster Well maybe you are including armor plates. So why not set up a race? Since the armor tank actually gains some survivability by equipping a nitrous boost, why not try one fit with that on and another with it off against the shield tank. Shield tanks lose a lot of survivability by equipping one of those. u realise armor loses survivability by equipping dmg mods right? so u lose some survivability equipping an ACTIVE speed mod (there are 2 sets of passive ones, actually might be 3) same as an armor tank trying to fit dmg mods. This is what happens when all ppl wanna do is stack as many dmg mods as they can fit and forget there are actual other mods Also dunno if u havent caught on but active mods tend to be highslot mods and passive ones low slot so fit a passive speed mod since it was made more for shield tanks @Slap actually up close the blaster would out dps the rail i believe, circling helped but straight up dmg if the blaster is in optimal range pretty sure it out dmg'd the rail. Currently not the case. Armor only recently got decent with the addition of hardeners which then showed CCP that the previously added shield hardener time of 10 sec is a joke and needs to be buffed.
Patoman Radiant ZionTCD Legacy Rising 60	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:11:00 - [36] - Quote Despite the obviously better defense, I can't stand using armor tanks. Shield tanks have at least double maneuverability (faster top speed and way faster acceleration). Trading 25% less hp and rep for 50% or more maneuverability is a fine trade to me. Also, more gank with damage mods. Only real longing is that armor tanks have a much easier time fitting the better blasters (favorite weapon, of course being fast helps with being able to apply close range damage)
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:33:00 - [37] - Quote The stup1dness of this OP has no limits. Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY. You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR? Shield gets more survivability against AI. Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME? Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON? Are forge guns turning corners while you run away? Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI? (This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.) You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do.
knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 112	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:34:00 - [38] - Quote 0 Try Harder wrote: knight of 6 wrote: video or it didn't happen. i can't get over 5.1k and have well over 3 mill invested (combat fitted, rep hardeners ect.) nos, 6k+ armor, and a rep, please tell me again how you had enough pg for that on an STD tank. 6k+ armor and still faster than a shield tank? I FORMALLY CALL SHENANIGANS ON YOU SIR! points at op video or gtfo 1x best heavy armor rep 1x best 180mm plate 2x best hardeners 1x PG mod because I only have L3 in armor plates, you know, because armor tanking is easy You're welcome btw. I know you were just wanted to know what I used to survive all of that ;) CCP is changing things, so you'll have to try that build vs a gunnlogi again. Give armor a nitrous, and gunnlogi none because no one uses that on a shield tank (and for good reason...) Total armor = 6752 HP this is a madrugar correct? scrap the pg mod add a damage mod and that's my fit... with field mechanics 5 that comes out to 5,155ish so which skill am i missing? with combat engineering 5 (which i have) the PG mod becomes unnecessary if you're only running advanced guns (i don't have proto yet so i don't know if they'll fit). so where did you get the extra 1500 armor?
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 359	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:47:00 - [39] - Quote Actually Armor tanks can eat more armor targeted AV then a shield tank can armor targeted AV. Packed AV grenades actually drop shield tanks faster then you can drop a armor tank with them. So yes armor does have a big advantage over shield on handling AV. When armor targeted AV that is weak against shield ends up killing shield tanks faster then armor tanks something is wrong. Is armor too strong no. Shields just have been nerfed down to horrible stats. Shields proto rep only repairs around 1750 shields on a cycle. The proto armor puts out 6700 per cycle. Plus armor hardeners last for 60 seconds and are only off for 15 while shields last 10 seconds and is off for 30 seconds. Armor plates give a extra 1200 HP about. Running a armor tank with kb/m allows a player to run at the same speeds as shield tanks. Armor are way ahead of shield tanks. Problem is Mav you are so milfed about rails that you think shields just need there active hardeners tweaked. Shields need more then that. CCP needs to do a rebalance on modules Also shields need alot better passive regen. A sagaris should be running 100 for passive regen. not the 30 that they give us. Armor is where I think tanks should be standardized around. Why because really they are on lvl with the lvl of AV that is thrown at them. And currently armor tanks are far above shield. A good armor tank can beat a shield tank in a rail battle. I have beat proto rail sagaris with my mad already.
Mr Turtlez Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 54	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:48:00 - [40] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: The stup1dness of this OP has no limits. Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY. You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR? Shield gets more survivability against AI. Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME? Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON? Are forge guns turning corners while you run away? Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI? (This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.) Can you rep your armor by it self as Shield tanks rep shields? You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do. That is the stupidest post i have ever seen. You do realize that Slap and 0 are considered two of the best shield tanks in the game? A shield tank will never be good at AI unless you fit for reps. And then you will lose to armor tanks allday. Hence why shield tanks are just full passive fit and can only **** other tanks. And even then only 1 at a time and have to then wait for shields to go up unless the other tank was terrible.

BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:52:00 - [41] - Quote Mr Turtlez wrote: BOZ MR wrote: The stup1dness of this OP has no limits. Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY. You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR? Shield gets more survivability against AI. Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME? Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON? Are forge guns turning corners while you run away? Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI? (This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.) Can you rep your armor by it self as Shield tanks rep shields? You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do. That is the stupidest post i have ever seen. You do realize that Slap and 0 are considered two of the best shield tanks in the game? A shield tank will never be good at AI unless you fit for reps. And then you will lose to armor tanks allday. Hence why shield tanks are just full passive fit and can only **** other tanks. And even then only 1 at a time and have to then wait for shields to go up unless the other tank was terrible. It does not make it Valid if a guy who is "considered" best shield tanker says something. I can fight with blasters with anyone that claims to be best tanker.
Mr Turtlez Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 54	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:54:00 - [42] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Mr Turtlez wrote: BOZ MR wrote: The stup1dness of this OP has no limits. Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY. You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR? Shield gets more survivability against AI. Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME? Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON? Are forge guns turning corners while you run away? Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI? (This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.) Can you rep your armor by it self as Shield tanks rep shields? You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do. That is the stupidest post i have ever seen. You do realize that Slap and 0 are considered two of the best shield tanks in the game? A shield tank will never be good at AI unless you fit for reps. And then you will lose to armor tanks allday. Hence why shield tanks are just full passive fit and can only **** other tanks. And even then only 1 at a time and have to then wait for shields to go up unless the other tank was terrible. It does not make it Valid if a guy who is "considered" best shield tanker says something. I can fight with blasters with anyone that claims to be best tanker. You'll lose all your suryas like the rest of them. Mavado even stopped calling them in against us.
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 63	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:55:00 - [43] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: 0 Try Harder wrote: knight of 6 wrote: video or it didn't happen. i can't get over 5.1k and have well over 3 mill invested (combat fitted, rep hardeners ect.) nos, 6k+ armor, and a rep, please tell me again how you had enough pg for that on an STD tank. 6k+ armor and still faster than a shield tank? I FORMALLY CALL SHENANIGANS ON YOU SIR! points at op video or gtfo 1x best heavy armor rep 1x best 180mm plate 2x best hardeners 1x PG mod because I only have L3 in armor plates, you know, because armor tanking is easy You're welcome btw. I know you were just wanted to know what I used to survive all of that ;) CCP is changing things, so you'll have to try that build vs a gunnlogi again. Give armor a nitrous, and gunnlogi none because no one uses that on a shield tank (and for good reason...) Total armor = 6752 HP this is a madrugar correct? scrap the pg mod add a damage mod and that's my fit... with field mechanics 5 that comes out to 5,155ish armor points so which skill am i missing? with combat engineering 5 (which i have) the PG mod becomes unnecessary if you're only running advanced guns (i don't have proto yet so i don't know if they'll fit). so where did you get the extra 1500 armor? You sure you have best 180mm plate? Because I have almost the exact same fitting, just minus the PG mod with a jove torc mod and I have around 6750 armor HP. I have field mech at lvl 5 and combat engineering lvl 5 as well, plus the armor skill that reduces fitting costs of armor plates at lvl 5.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:56:00 - [44] - Quote Mr Turtlez wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Mr Turtlez wrote: BOZ MR wrote: The stup1dness of this OP has no limits. Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY. You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR? Shield gets more survivability against AI. Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME? Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON? Are forge guns turning corners while you run away? Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI? (This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.) Can you rep your armor by it self as Shield tanks rep shields? You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do. That is the stupidest post i have ever seen. You do realize that Slap and 0 are considered two of the best shield tanks in the game? A shield tank will never be good at AI unless you fit for reps. And then you will lose to armor tanks allday. Hence why shield tanks are just full passive fit and can only **** other tanks. And even then only 1 at a time and have to then wait for shields to go up unless the other tank was terrible. It does not make it Valid if a guy who is "considered" best shield tanker says something. I can fight with blasters with anyone that claims to be best tanker. You'll lose all your suryas like the rest of them. Mavado even stopped calling them in against us. 1V1 Blaster vs Blaster. Bring it on.
knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 112	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:56:00 - [45] - Quote BOZ, he's good trust me.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 01:58:00 - [46] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: BOZ, he's good trust me. How do you know how I play?
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 251	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:05:00 - [47] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: knight of 6 wrote: BOZ, he's good trust me. How do you know how I play? Slap's fingers have grown around the "steering wheel" of his tank. I can promise any amount of ISK you want to bet that Slap would drain you of your ISK before you killed him.
The legend345 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 145	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:05:00 - [48] - Quote Armor tanks are not "easy mode" in a good lobby. If you have 1 guy with proto swarms and damage mods he will keep you out of the game himself. Then if you add in the noobs with no gun game going for WPs well it can be hard. But when AV isnt strong yea its easy mode. Armor tanks can take a ton of damage but they can be "popped" if the AV is strong enough. Play a game with blaz and you'll understand lol. Even if the AV is going to kill you its going to make you useless. Then if there's one rail on the other team your useless. So while I will say armor has its advantages at least when there is strong AV against a shield tank you can get distance and do a little bit. But with armor if you can be in close then your out of the game.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:06:00 - [49] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: BOZ MR wrote: knight of 6 wrote: BOZ, he's good trust me. How do you know how I play? Slap's fingers have grown around the "steering wheel" of his tank. I can promise any amount of ISK you want to bet that Slap would drain you of your ISK before you killed him. I am talking about blaster... Btw since I started this game all SP went to tanks.
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 251	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:08:00 - [50] - Quote So am I. It honestly wouldn't matter what he used though. You could pick his tank for him and he'd win.

The legend345 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 145	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:11:00 - [51] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Piercing Serenity wrote: BOZ MR wrote: knight of 6 wrote: BOZ, he's good trust me. How do you know how I play? Slap's fingers have grown around the "steering wheel" of his tank. I can promise any amount of ISK you want to bet that Slap would drain you of your ISK before you killed him. I am talking about blaster... Btw since I started this game all SP went to tanks. Well you can put 20 mil sp into your armor tank and a rail will still slap you (see what I did there :O). You cant out dps a shield rail with a armor tank and you cant stack plates because you don't have passive reps. So yea why would you "talk about blasters" they're just pub stomping tanks. For me the CBs are all that matter and if you try to run blaster in a cb against slap, well hes going to have a lot of fun that game
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:12:00 - [52] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: So am I. It honestly wouldn't matter what he used though. You could pick his tank for him and he'd win. Ok, If he is good as you say I might learn something, if not he will learn from me. No tricks btw. Face to face, fair fight no ambushing.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:13:00 - [53] - Quote The legend345 wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Piercing Serenity wrote: BOZ MR wrote: knight of 6 wrote: BOZ, he's good trust me. How do you know how I play? Slap's fingers have grown around the "steering wheel" of his tank. I can promise any amount of ISK you want to bet that Slap would drain you of your ISK before you killed him. I am talking about blaster... Btw since I started this game all SP went to tanks. Well you can put 20 mil sp into your armor tank and a rail will still slap you (see what I did there :O). You cant out dps a shield rail with armor and you cant stack plates because you don't have passive reps. So yea why would you "talk about blasters" they're just pub stomping tanks. For me the CBs are all that matter and if you try to run blaster in a cb against slap, well hes going to have a lot of fun that game We are talking about blasters.
The legend345 Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 145	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:14:00 - [54] - Quote We are talking about blasters.[/quote] Why lol they are USELESS xD
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:15:00 - [55] - Quote The legend345 wrote: We are talking about blasters. Why lol they are USELESS xD[/quote] They work great for pubstomp.
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 251	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:17:00 - [56] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Piercing Serenity wrote: So am I. It honestly wouldn't matter what he used though. You could pick his tank for him and he'd win. Ok, If he is good as you say I might learn something, if not he will learn from me. No tricks btw. Face to face, fair fight no ambushing. You probably would learn something. And Slap wouldn't hide. If anything, he'd probably try to drive circles around you. Slap's the best, but he doesn't let that go to his head. He'd play, he'd win, and you'd learn a little bit about what you need to do to be a better tanker, with no hard feelings afterwards.
BOZ MR BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 49	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:18:00 - [57] - Quote Btw I really +1 to increased shield hardner time.
Mr Turtlez Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 54	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:22:00 - [58] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: The legend345 wrote: We are talking about blasters. Why lol they are USELESS xD They work great for pubstomp.[/quote] Some people dont understand what a corp battle is.
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1221	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:22:00 - [59] - Quote What on earth is this abomination of a topic? Shield>armor tanking. And ive tried armor tanking with a madrugar on this built (i mainly drive a sagaris) and its just crap. Way to slow, takes much more damage from swarms and AV grenades and the damage output is lower then on shield tanks. Shield tanks can use blaster and railguns effective. And a railgun on a sagaris 2 shots anything in the game. And for railgun fights you put a pure buffer tank on a sagaris with alot of resistance and 3 damage mods.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2745	Posted - 2013.04.12 02:23:00 - [60] - Quote Mr Turtlez wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Mr Turtlez wrote: BOZ MR wrote: The stup1dness of this OP has no limits. Shield Tanks are better at AI and MUCH MORE SPEEDY. You say look at stats in game. Are you simply stup1d? Are not you capable of understanding the speed difference of gunloggi and a madrugar that has 6752 ARMOR? Shield gets more survivability against AI. Are your flux grenades magically stick to your tank AND DEALING 2000 DAMAGE AT THE SAME TIME? Are you aware that EX-0 AV nades deal more than 2000 DAMAGE while a 25% HARDNER GOING ON? Are forge guns turning corners while you run away? Does swarms DEAL 130% DAMAGE to your GUNLOGGI? (This means 1500 DAMAGE to armor from MILITIA SWARMS THAT COME FREE.) Can you rep your armor by it self as Shield tanks rep shields? You cry that you can put nitro to the armor tank but you can STACK 2 DAMAGE MOD on GUNLOGGI tank but you do not see any armor tankers CRYING like you do. That is the stupidest post i have ever seen. You do realize that Slap and 0 are considered two of the best shield tanks in the game? A shield tank will never be good at AI unless you fit for reps. And then you will lose to armor tanks allday. Hence why shield tanks are just full passive fit and can only **** other tanks. And even then only 1 at a time and have to then wait for shields to go up unless the other tank was terrible. It does not make it Valid if a guy who is "considered" best shield tanker says something. I can fight with blasters with anyone that claims to be best tanker. You'll lose all your suryas like the rest of them. Mavado even stopped calling them in against us. only reason i didnt keep droppin them was because tanks dont really win u games on that map and didnt have proto rails at the time was using adv blasters so JW took over cuz he had proto stuff



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