Hi folks,

After verifying on the Singularity test server that Molden Heath is the only region that has districts meeting the requirements for the first wave of Planetary Conquest (Uprising expansion, May 6th, 2013), I spent several hours mapping out the systems and their associated planets and districts.

Here is that map:

http://i.imgur.com/K9l1FyR.jpg

The map only shows lowsec systems (except for Teonusude). As a result, it is not recommended for moving starships, only clones.

The map shows each system's temperate planets (if any), their designation, and the number of districts on said planets. The map also shows how many space stations are in the system, its security rating, and how many moons orbit temperate planets (how many POSs could get bonuses from SI in districts).

Green jumps between systems mean that there are two or more adjacent PC systems, while an orange jump means that at least one side of the jump does not have PC planets.

Where the districts actually in the Singularity Test server? Or did you have another way of figuring it out?

Edit: also I only counted 245 districts, I was under the impression it was going to be 250... or did I miss count?

+1 for standing up as a school and putting good info out there for everyone.

They are in Molden Heath. I spent several hours flying around from region to region looking. I was about to give up when I found a planet with districts in Molden.

The devs told us "about 250", so that's in the ballpark.

Thanks!

Great stuff, our corps really do need to link up.

I know Bojo was talking to your corp's directors about a "college planet" or something.

I thought about this one:

http://i.imgur.com/M4Yvt1E.jpg

The problem is that it has more districts (12) than we could fairly take up for two corps. We'd need at least one more college or maybe a couple of other "friendlies" that we'd fight with for practice battles.

So 38 moons. Anyone want to do the work to find out what they have?

The way this map is set up they say there is room for everyone.... I simply don't see it. If your not with a major alliance it's gonna be ruff.

Why?

Why?

Yeah I think this will be a war for the big boys I really doesn't see a place for the small people not at all they are welcome to try but I only see them getting caught in the middle of the bigger corps wars.

Keep in mind this is one region, they will (I assume) eventually open up the rest of the low sec and null sec regions too. So it simply might be a waiting game for a lot of corps.

We are talking about may 6th and the little guys stand no chance.

We are talking about may 6th and the little guys stand no chance.

Just a question. When is says "PC Moons" what does that mean? Are these moons things we will be able to take over or not?

Why am I only seeing this now? Shame on me!
Hot dog, I knew you found the area, but this is comprehensive!

The system is Minmatar, which will certainly please Scheneighnay, maybe influence his alliance to help us in some land grab.

Not happy to have all you gun wielding maniacs invading my home.

Little guys could hire somebody to take some land for them and establish a foothold

I happen to know of a strong mercenary alliance

Hi folks,

After verifying on the Singularity test server that Molden Heath is the only region that has districts meeting the requirements for the first wave of Planetary Conquest (Uprising expansion, May 6th, 2013), I spent several hours mapping out the systems and their associated planets and districts.

Here is that map:

http://i.imgur.com/K9l1FyR.jpg

The map only shows lowsec systems (except for Teonusude). As a result, it is not recommended for moving starships, only clones.

The map shows each system's temperate planets (if any), their designation, and the number of districts on said planets. The map also shows how many space stations are in the system, its security rating, and how many moons orbit temperate planets (how many POSs could get bonuses from SI in districts).

Green jumps between systems mean that there are two or more adjacent PC systems, while an orange jump means that at least one side of the jump does not have PC planets.

tbh not gonna play out that way.
Do the maths on how much hiring mercs will cost in clones, gear + profit and realise the large zerg corps like PRO are more likely to meet ur demands of asking price than the little guy who barely has any ISK to pay u

I'm sure he was talking about getting payed eve side. Because a small corp can't keep up with the costs of war noway they can keep paying mercs day after day dust side so I'm sure he ment eve side^^

Great work. thanks dude.
Do you mind me using your file in an article for dust-france website ?

Yeah I think this will be a war for the big boys I really doesn't see a place for the small people not at all they are welcome to try but I only see them getting caught in the middle of the bigger corps wars.

Certainement, monsieur.

Another useful map of the area which also tells you where the ice belts are (this dotlan map also good for navigation in eve) which are very important EVE side of things as well as much more info to help planning.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Molden_Heath

One question I still have is this:
Who stands a better chance in all of this PC business?:
One large corp (competent or not....)
or
An alliance made up of smaller corps (competent or not...)

???

If say DUST University and BojoGÇÖs School of the Trades took control of Hrober VIII (3 permanent districts each and 4 contentiously contested training zones), then Hrober V (5 districts) would be small and isolated, making it perfect for small Corporations to try their hand at PC, and they could also attack the training districts on Hrober VIII to get used to Friendly Fire and such.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is this: Is there a mechanic that will favor one side over the other:

200 member corp with x skill level

vs.

200 member alliance made up of half-a-dozen corps with the same x skill level

Just a word to the wise educated people among you, Rooks and Kings live in Molden Heath. Don't expect any EVE side support for anything.

Well, pirates will be pirates.

That's another good reason not to go with Hrober. Flying to Hrober means going through the pirate capital of Molden Heath, Bosena:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Molden_Heath/Bosena#kills24

Admittedly, there are plenty of systems with more than 72 player ships killed and 16 player pods killed. But anyone who wants EVE-side support would be wise to pay attention to the chokepoints that the pirates like.

what are the other major choke points in the region?, for us uneducated mercs who don't have our heads in the stars

Well, pirates will be pirates.

That's another good reason not to go with Hrober. Flying to Hrober means going through the pirate capital of Molden Heath, Bosena:

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Molden_Heath/Bosena#kills24

Admittedly, there are plenty of systems with more than 72 player ships killed and 16 player pods killed. But anyone who wants EVE-side support would be wise to pay attention to the chokepoints that the pirates like.

If it wound up being just us two, maybe Hrober V might be better. That would enable us to each hold one district as a campus and leave the other three as the training grounds. That would certainly reinforce the neutrality.

That Hrober VIII would be potentially open for other corps, meaning that we would have as many as ten other corps in system to fight against if we needed them.

Of course, that would leave us with no backup campus.

Hmm... Is there a third college around here?

Question: EVE nub here but on ur map http://twitter.yfrog.com/z/h7qvfhzhj Gonheim to Half is missing a line that is present on Dotlan http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Molden_Heath#temperate

dunno if u missed it or im missing something :s

DUST University has over 700 members and is active in all time zones. We would probably want to have 3 or 4 Planetary Conquest fights per day at different times so that all our members have access. This would probably require 3 permanent districts to produce enough clones to support this. Students burn through a lot of clones.

I just donGÇÖt think that Hrober V with 5 districts would be big enough. Also, Hrober V has 3 moons, making it more valuable than Hrober VIII which only has 1 moon.

Hedaleolfarber III would also be a viable option. With 12 districts it is too big for just the training Corps, unless a third one joined us, so we would be sharing the planet with at least 1 non training Corp. Now one possibility is that a few of the big corps could each take a district on Hedaleolfarber III and then train their new players by attacking our training districts. This would provide a nice supply of battles and give us some verity.

Just a word to the wise educated people among you, Rooks and Kings live in Molden Heath. Don't expect any EVE side support for anything.

Good points.

Personally, I lean towards Hedaleo(*cough) because in a way it's even more distant from the action. I think that because Hrober has 4 moons around PC planets, it is more valuable to mixed EVE/Dust corps and so is more likely to be viewed as somewhere between a minipocket and a midpocket. In other words, I can see a small, hungry corp going for total domination of the whole system.

So, if each college had three districts, then there would be six left over. Potentially, that could support another college or something.

It occurs to me that in EVE, there are three main "colleges"- EVE University, Red-vs.-Blue, and Agony Unleashed. Each provides a different type of service. (Yes, I know education is a sideline for Agony, but they are famous for it.)

EVE University offers a general education.
RvB offers basic, hisec PVP experience.
Agony offers hardcore, advanced PVP in nullsec.

We need to start thinking about the niches in Dust and how different schools can meet those needs.

In truth I never had any affiliation with EVE University EVE side, but I fought Agony Unleashed in Syndicate space many times, and I knew a few Agony Unleashed alumni. I always had the greatest respect for them. Nothing like having your small battlecruiser fleet swarmed by 20 or 30 cheap cruisers on one of their training roams. They brought some Good Fights!

Oh! Good catch! I will fix it in the next iteration.

Thanks!

Also change the Jump Line between AEDALD and MUTTOKON from orange to green

NEW VERSION POSTED

1) Trade hub changed to correct station based on Tranquility data, not Singularity.

Question
total space nub here so dont bite........but whats the different colour lines mean?

didn't ccp just outright add a region at some point, black rise during Emperian Age i think

So 38 moons. Anyone want to do the work to find out what they have?

Hi folks,

After verifying on the Singularity test server that Molden Heath is the only region that has districts meeting the requirements for the first wave of Planetary Conquest (Uprising expansion, May 6th, 2013), I spent several hours mapping out the systems and their associated planets and districts.

Here is that map:

http://i.imgur.com/K9l1FyR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZvEC3gh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SwDSSG2.jpg - Updated 20130413

Why are moons important? Are we fighting on them?

Dotlan is quite helpful =)

I used the map as a background to make a simplified, dust-only A4/A3 print version. Here is a bad quality jpeg link to it. This map might be used internally in CRONOS. for strategic presentation of campaign coals and propaganda. ... The basic idea of presentation is to show the size of planets in hexagons scaled by the number of districts. This allows quick demonstration of powerblocks and strategic weights.

Got a pdf, png and jpg file but photobucket is automatically crap quality jpg >:(

Applauds for a job well done!


I used the map as a background to make a simplified, dust-only A4/A3 print version. Here is a bad quality jpeg link to it. This map might be used internally in CRONOS. for strategic presentation of campaign coals and propaganda.

All credit goes to you Mysthana for making the original layout and gathering the info for it - though I'd prefer to keep the print simple without any credentials... The basic idea of presentation is to show the size of planets in hexagons scaled by the number of districts. This allows quick demonstration of powerblocks and strategic weights.

If you want me to put it out in high quality and jot your credentials down, let me know! I won't release the quality version before asking you, as the content is really your handiwork.


LOW RES JPG PREVIEW:
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o703/trollsroyce/moldenheath_zps6fe590d9.jpg


VECTOR PRINT A4/A3 PDF:
pending credentials
pending agreement with original cartographer
pending host - I cba hosting it :)