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Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:23:00 -
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Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off.
Their only problem is that they are slow.
Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible.
Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
445
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:26:00 -
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Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. |
CODE Breaker93
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:26:00 -
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Hey cat +1 |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:28:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end.
I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere?
And no matter where you go he can reach you? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3343
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:31:00 -
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Yes they should be allowed to use light weapons. If a heavy wants to trade the amazing DPS of an HMG for the range of the AR or a laser, then they should be able to.
Their low speed still makes them very susceptible to lasers, and snipers. You also forgot to mention their lack of equipment slot. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
445
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you?
Actually I did.
But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip. |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:34:00 -
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Fl_lCK Heavies! |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:36:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Yes they should be allowed to use light weapons. If a heavy wants to trade the amazing DPS of an HMG for the range of the AR or a laser, then they should be able to.
Their low speed still makes them very susceptible to lasers, and snipers. You also forgot to mention their lack of equipment slot.
Considering a standard AR can take down even Prototype assaults in 0.8 seconds, I don't see how that's much of a "tradeoff".
Not to mention Logistics and Scout HP.
Also, the DPS of the HMG is reachable with an AR.
aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip.
Then I guess he wasn't firing at you everytime you dared to pop your head out. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
445
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip. Then I guess he wasn't firing at you everytime you dared to pop your head out.
He tried his best.
But with 1000+ armor. He was as slow as my grandma. |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:43:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip. Then I guess he wasn't firing at you everytime you dared to pop your head out. He tried his best. But with 1000+ armor. He was as slow as my grandma.
YOU SHOOT YOUR GRANDMA?!
YOU MONSTER! |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3343
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Considering a standard AR can take down even Prototype assaults in 0.8 seconds, I don't see how that's much of a "tradeoff".
Not to mention Logistics and Scout HP.
Also, the DPS of the HMG is reachable with an AR.
That is assuming every shot hits, and that is ignoring tanking modules.
HMG does 533 DPS while the AR does 387.5, that is over 145 more DPS, that is pretty substantial. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
445
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
YOU SHOOT YOUR GRANDMA?!
YOU MONSTER!
Big deal.....
She came back to life anyway.... |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
48
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:52:00 -
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Yes they should, there way easier to kill that way  |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:58:00 -
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Why shouldn't they? They can carry an HMG and an SMG, but holding a light weapon (AR) is a problem??? Really? lol |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:11:00 -
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After actually testing this, I came to the conclusion that yes, its fine.
Though I was using Militia gear, but I don't have the SP to go into Heavy and check it out. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
445
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:After actually testing this, I came to the conclusion that yes, its fine.
Though I was using Militia gear, but I don't have the SP to go into Heavy and check it out.
Good.
Don't ever talk about it. |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
431
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:21:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:After actually testing this, I came to the conclusion that yes, its fine.
Though I was using Militia gear, but I don't have the SP to go into Heavy and check it out. Good. Don't ever talk about it.
Yes master. :[ |
Chojine Dentetsu
Academy Inferno
6
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:49:00 -
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Edited out my own stupid post..stupid post was stupid. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1047
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:53:00 -
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Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P!
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that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh
They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance. |
Chojine Dentetsu
Academy Inferno
6
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P! ... that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance.
...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already...
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Seraph Prime
Dangerously Designed
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:24:00 -
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...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already...
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He got you there.... |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
DUST University
Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:46:00 -
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By common field testing people have found that heavies are extremely vulnerable to locus nades (M1) as they cannot run away even from a badly cooked grenade. 2 nades and pop them in the back while they run. I take unskilled heavies in clear fields with the M1. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S.
229
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:56:00 -
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This thread should be locked due to its similarities to past threads and its overall pointlesness. |
blue gt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:10:00 -
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are you a fscking moron????? trust me AR heavies have been done they suck. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S.
229
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:35:00 -
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blue gt wrote:are you a fscking moron????? trust me AR heavies have been done they suck.
SoTa makes work (assuming thats what he still runs). |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off.
Their only problem is that they are slow.
Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible.
Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults.
So you can't out range them anymore.
They can use baloons in their highslot if they want to. Freedom of fitting, no matter how stupid, insane or unorthodox.
Because we can. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
723
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:39:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end.
Agreed. Dust is a classless FPS. Why do players always insist on hinting that anything unique about the game be removed and that it would be better if it was just much more generic and much more similar to every other game out there?
Having the ability to equip an SMG or sniper rifle on a heavy and lumber around the field trying use those weapons if I want is one of the big plus features of this game. |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
23
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:55:00 -
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In response to the TC: Yes.
And on a side note, all non-heavies could be able to use heavy weapons for all I care. |
Philipp Achtel
Immobile Infantry
32
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:24:00 -
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90% of threads on this forum: "Should [insert play style I don't use] be allowed?"
The answer is of course, no. |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
444
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should.
End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you?
I have, i luaghed and then proceeded to kill him with my MD.
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