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Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
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Posted - 2013.04.07 14:19:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. They can use baloons in their highslot if they want to. Freedom of fitting, no matter how stupid, insane or unorthodox. Because we can. I prefer balloon armor plates but I won't judge. Weirdo.... |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
49
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Posted - 2013.04.07 16:14:00 -
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So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
685
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:04:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense. Yes because other suits have to worry about an lav sized hitbox
Tell me this, if a tank (IRL) could replace it's main cannon with a light machine gun can a light armor vehicle do the same with the tank's main cannon? And if applied to in game would that be balanced? |
Osiris Ausare
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore.
Instead of complaining why not try and figure out how to take them out. I've never understood the whole nerf/everything is too hard group. So you die a few times, figure out why you died, work as a team and take him out. |
Crash Monster
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:59:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote: Instead of complaining why not try and figure out how to take them out. I've never understood the whole nerf/everything is too hard group. So you die a few times, figure out why you died, work as a team and take him out.
Ahem, well, everyone thinks they are gods gift to FPS's so obviously if they can't figure out how to beat something it must need nerfing! |
Natu Nobilis
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:05:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense.
Check this tanks.
Now:
Do you think you can put this kind of weapon on the top of a regular car?
And what about putting a small handgun on the top of the tank ?
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
773
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:05:00 -
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The introduction features heavies using lasers... so yeah.
If anything Heavies should have H L slots instead of H S. |
Philipp Achtel
Immobile Infantry
33
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:08:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense.
Are you for real? Do you understand the concept of "heavy" and "light"?
I sincerely hope you're joking, because if you aren't, wow, these forums have hit an entirely new low. |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
208
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:09:00 -
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Jack Boost. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
773
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:12:00 -
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Heavy suits have strength enhancing servos, so do assaults and logis, but I assume heavies have stronger ones. I'm not sure how that would prevent them from using light weapons... Just be glad they don't get a melee bonus. |
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Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2162
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:14:00 -
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Heavies should get light weapons and heavy weapons, I don't see the big deal they just waddle around like penguins anyway. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
773
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:15:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote: Heavies should get light weapons and heavy weapons, I don't see the big deal they just waddle around like penguins anyway. Penguins are cute :3 |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1052
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:15:00 -
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Chojine Dentetsu wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P! ... that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance. ...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already...
So you ninja edit it, and act like I ignored it. Not my fault your blatant ignorance was so glaring that I replied. As you can see, I replied to your OP. Get off your high horse. |
Cat Merc
OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT
444
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Posted - 2013.04.07 20:06:00 -
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Seriously? People are still here? I already said that I admit the answer is no, shoo, get on with your lives and go to other threads. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1346
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Posted - 2013.04.07 20:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore.
face it bro you have been own |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1346
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Posted - 2013.04.07 20:10:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote: Heavies should get light weapons and heavy weapons, I don't see the big deal they just waddle around like penguins anyway.
thanks |
Chojine Dentetsu
Academy Inferno
7
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Posted - 2013.04.07 20:10:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P! ... that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance. ...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already... So you ninja edit it, and act like I ignored it. Not my fault your blatant ignorance was so glaring that I replied. As you can see, I replied to your OP. Get off your high horse.
I am actually on a pony, and you look far too amusing from up a top my tiny steed...I think I will remain here, for at least a while longer :D! Derpy derpy derp derpda derp!
P.S. So you says I is better ninja? *Nods sagely* |
Rifter7
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
189
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Posted - 2013.04.08 00:22:00 -
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i want to fit tank turrets on my heavy.
ccp y u no do this? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
777
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Posted - 2013.04.08 01:32:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:i want to fit tank turrets on my heavy.
ccp y u no do this? I want a should mounted plasma caster dammit! |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
448
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Posted - 2013.04.08 04:00:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times. |
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1392
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Posted - 2013.04.08 04:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times.
hide behind LR and you still have to face it bro you have been own |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
460
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Posted - 2013.04.08 04:55:00 -
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Aighun wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. Agreed. Dust is a classless FPS. Why do players always insist on hinting that anything unique about the game be removed and that it would be better if it was just much more generic and much more similar to every other game out there? Having the ability to equip an SMG or sniper rifle on a heavy and lumber around the field trying use those weapons if I want is one of the big plus features of this game.
You sir get a +1. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
452
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Posted - 2013.04.08 10:51:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times. hide behind LR and you still have to face it bro you have been own Ever met jack boot? |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
225
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Posted - 2013.04.08 12:48:00 -
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So ... only because of me you need 'NERF ALL' topic? (still are more ppl using this combo - heavy+ar and better then me)
For CCP is easier ... ban me. Problem solved.
Few facts
1. For me is easier to get out HEAVY from my AR then adv/proto. So you AR user you do this easy to me (and you do). All hits can be placed at heavy. This is not 'equal' when you fight versus another dropsuits (we talk about AR weapon). Now talk to CCP about dropsuit balances (not weapon) ... use search button if you never do.
2. When I meet heavy-HMG I dont have enough DPS to take him - fact. Only luck/skill/position/map can alow me to win close fight with heavy... if.
3. You miss your equiptment slot? Try :)
4. You can always go around map and dont jump or hit every rock/dune/wall... it is fun :)
5. HUGE HP.. is only ilusion when you read point: 1.
6. Heavy dropsuit is the worst dropsuit here. AR is not exelent weapon.. but it can be used. I still like both.
Now back to nerf all
If scout can get eg. forge on it... it will trade all even movement speed. So probaly nice combo too to use.
I will probably play another dropsuit soon (new build). So dont worry. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
454
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:05:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:So ... only because of me you need 'NERF ALL' topic? (still are more ppl using this combo - heavy+ar and better then me) For CCP is easier ... ban me. Problem solved.
Few facts
1. For me is easier to get out HEAVY from my AR then adv/proto any other dropsuit. So you AR user you do this easy to me (and you do). All hits can be placed at heavy. This is not 'equal' when you fight versus another dropsuits (we talk about AR weapon). Now talk to CCP about dropsuit balances (not weapon) ... use search button if you never do. 2. When I meet heavy-HMG I dont have enough DPS to take him - fact. Only luck/skill/position/map can alow me to win close fight with heavy... if. 3. You miss your equiptment slot? Try :) 4. You can always go around map and dont jump or hit every rock/dune/wall... it is fun :) 5. HUGE HP.. is only ilusion when you read point: 1. 6. Heavy dropsuit is the worst dropsuit here. AR is not exelent weapon.. but it can be used. I still like both.
Now back to nerf all
If scout can get eg. forge on it... it will trade all even movement speed (maybe get BIG hit box too?). So probaly nice combo too - to use. I will probably play another dropsuit soon (new build). So dont worry. ITS YOU!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE FOR WITCH CRAFT!
Anyway, you were the only one who posed a problem with the Heavy AR combo. I did suck that day, I averaged at around 450 WP per match (I usually do at least 1500), so something might have been wrong. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
424
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Posted - 2013.04.08 13:43:00 -
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I was looking for a thread to post this in. I guess this one will do.
Link |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
455
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:02:00 -
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Laheon wrote:I was looking for a thread to post this in. I guess this one will do. Link lol *Uses harden* |
Geth Massredux
Arrogance. EoN.
128
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. Apparently people want a buff on heavies. If that happens we are all ******!!! |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
456
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:31:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. Apparently people want a buff on heavies. If that happens we are all ******!!! I want a buff on heavies actually... I am not afraid of them anymore, at all. I just think of them of big targets asking me to shoot at them my whole clip and watch them rage as their HMG couldn't hit me because I'm strafing. |
Cosorvin
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:08:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense. Check this tanks.Now: Do you think you can put this kind of weapon on the top of a regular car? And what about putting a small handgun on the top of the tank ?
The difference between a scout using an HMG and a heavy using an assault rifle is that Is that the heavy has the physical capabilities to use both.
Seriously, if you looked at a scout wielding an HMG would you think "well that is realistic"? No, I don't think you would now a heavy using an AR? YES!!!! Its quite realistic. |
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