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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:23:00 -
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Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. |
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:26:00 -
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Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. |
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CODE Breaker93
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:26:00 -
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Hey cat +1 |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:28:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:31:00 -
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Yes they should be allowed to use light weapons. If a heavy wants to trade the amazing DPS of an HMG for the range of the AR or a laser, then they should be able to. Their low speed still makes them very susceptible to lasers, and snipers. You also forgot to mention their lack of equipment slot. |
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you?
Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip. |
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Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:34:00 -
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Fl_lCK Heavies! |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:36:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Yes they should be allowed to use light weapons. If a heavy wants to trade the amazing DPS of an HMG for the range of the AR or a laser, then they should be able to. Their low speed still makes them very susceptible to lasers, and snipers. You also forgot to mention their lack of equipment slot. Considering a standard AR can take down even Prototype assaults in 0.8 seconds, I don't see how that's much of a "tradeoff". Not to mention Logistics and Scout HP. Also, the DPS of the HMG is reachable with an AR.
aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip.
Then I guess he wasn't firing at you everytime you dared to pop your head out. |
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip. Then I guess he wasn't firing at you everytime you dared to pop your head out.
He tried his best. But with 1000+ armor. He was as slow as my grandma. |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:43:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you? Actually I did. But I managed to take him down with one locus nade and a whole assault rifle clip. Then I guess he wasn't firing at you everytime you dared to pop your head out. He tried his best. But with 1000+ armor. He was as slow as my grandma. YOU SHOOT YOUR GRANDMA?! YOU MONSTER! |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Considering a standard AR can take down even Prototype assaults in 0.8 seconds, I don't see how that's much of a "tradeoff". Not to mention Logistics and Scout HP. Also, the DPS of the HMG is reachable with an AR.
That is assuming every shot hits, and that is ignoring tanking modules. HMG does 533 DPS while the AR does 387.5, that is over 145 more DPS, that is pretty substantial. |
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: YOU SHOOT YOUR GRANDMA?! YOU MONSTER!
Big deal..... She came back to life anyway.... |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:52:00 -
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Yes they should, there way easier to kill that way ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:58:00 -
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Why shouldn't they? They can carry an HMG and an SMG, but holding a light weapon (AR) is a problem??? Really? lol |
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:11:00 -
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After actually testing this, I came to the conclusion that yes, its fine. Though I was using Militia gear, but I don't have the SP to go into Heavy and check it out. |
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aden slayer
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:After actually testing this, I came to the conclusion that yes, its fine. Though I was using Militia gear, but I don't have the SP to go into Heavy and check it out. Good. Don't ever talk about it. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:21:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Cat Merc wrote:After actually testing this, I came to the conclusion that yes, its fine. Though I was using Militia gear, but I don't have the SP to go into Heavy and check it out. Good. Don't ever talk about it. Yes master. :[ |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:49:00 -
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Edited out my own stupid post..stupid post was stupid. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:53:00 -
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Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P!
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that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh
They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P! ... that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance.
...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already...
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:24:00 -
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...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already... [/quote]
He got you there.... |
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:46:00 -
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By common field testing people have found that heavies are extremely vulnerable to locus nades (M1) as they cannot run away even from a badly cooked grenade. 2 nades and pop them in the back while they run. I take unskilled heavies in clear fields with the M1. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 10:56:00 -
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This thread should be locked due to its similarities to past threads and its overall pointlesness. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:10:00 -
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are you a fscking moron????? trust me AR heavies have been done they suck. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:35:00 -
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blue gt wrote:are you a fscking moron????? trust me AR heavies have been done they suck.
SoTa makes work (assuming thats what he still runs). |
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Natu Nobilis
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Posted - 2013.04.07 11:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore.
They can use baloons in their highslot if they want to. Freedom of fitting, no matter how stupid, insane or unorthodox.
Because we can. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:39:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end.
Agreed. Dust is a classless FPS. Why do players always insist on hinting that anything unique about the game be removed and that it would be better if it was just much more generic and much more similar to every other game out there?
Having the ability to equip an SMG or sniper rifle on a heavy and lumber around the field trying use those weapons if I want is one of the big plus features of this game. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:55:00 -
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In response to the TC: Yes.
And on a side note, all non-heavies could be able to use heavy weapons for all I care. |
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Philipp Achtel
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:24:00 -
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90% of threads on this forum: "Should [insert play style I don't use] be allowed?"
The answer is of course, no. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 13:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. I guess you never encountered a heavy with 1000+ Armor, with complex damage mods shooting you from nowhere? And no matter where you go he can reach you?
I have, i luaghed and then proceeded to kill him with my MD.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.04.07 14:19:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. They can use baloons in their highslot if they want to. Freedom of fitting, no matter how stupid, insane or unorthodox. Because we can. I prefer balloon armor plates but I won't judge. Weirdo.... |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 16:14:00 -
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So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense. |
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Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:04:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense. Yes because other suits have to worry about an lav sized hitbox ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Tell me this, if a tank (IRL) could replace it's main cannon with a light machine gun can a light armor vehicle do the same with the tank's main cannon? And if applied to in game would that be balanced? |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore.
Instead of complaining why not try and figure out how to take them out. I've never understood the whole nerf/everything is too hard group. So you die a few times, figure out why you died, work as a team and take him out. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:59:00 -
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Osiris Ausare wrote: Instead of complaining why not try and figure out how to take them out. I've never understood the whole nerf/everything is too hard group. So you die a few times, figure out why you died, work as a team and take him out.
Ahem, well, everyone thinks they are gods gift to FPS's so obviously if they can't figure out how to beat something it must need nerfing! |
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Natu Nobilis
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Posted - 2013.04.07 18:05:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense.
Check this tanks.
Now:
Do you think you can put this kind of weapon on the top of a regular car?
And what about putting a small handgun on the top of the tank ?
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:05:00 -
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The introduction features heavies using lasers... so yeah.
If anything Heavies should have H L slots instead of H S. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:08:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense.
Are you for real? Do you understand the concept of "heavy" and "light"?
I sincerely hope you're joking, because if you aren't, wow, these forums have hit an entirely new low. |
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Yagihige
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:09:00 -
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Jack Boost. |
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Sloth9230
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:12:00 -
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Heavy suits have strength enhancing servos, so do assaults and logis, but I assume heavies have stronger ones. I'm not sure how that would prevent them from using light weapons... Just be glad they don't get a melee bonus. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:14:00 -
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Heavies should get light weapons and heavy weapons, I don't see the big deal they just waddle around like penguins anyway. |
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:15:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png) Heavies should get light weapons and heavy weapons, I don't see the big deal they just waddle around like penguins anyway. Penguins are cute :3 |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.04.07 19:15:00 -
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Chojine Dentetsu wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P! ... that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance. ...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already...
So you ninja edit it, and act like I ignored it. Not my fault your blatant ignorance was so glaring that I replied. As you can see, I replied to your OP. Get off your high horse. |
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Seriously? People are still here? I already said that I admit the answer is no, shoo, get on with your lives and go to other threads. |
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore.
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Sleepy Zan wrote:![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png) Heavies should get light weapons and heavy weapons, I don't see the big deal they just waddle around like penguins anyway.
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Chojine Dentetsu wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. No, because it balances the game. If they get Light weaponry, then give scouts HMG's. Don't like the sound of that? Didn't think so :P! ... that's your logic? Give scouts HMG's then? smfh They are already capable of using light weapons, and how many have you seen running around with AR's, or shotguns, or lasers? Not many. Those that do, get put down quick. Have you ever tried running around with heavy + AR? If you haven't, please do. Then come back and talk about balance. ...If you read up, I realized the error of my ways and edited out my post, to then try to lecture me about it is futile, since by editing it I agree with your view already... So you ninja edit it, and act like I ignored it. Not my fault your blatant ignorance was so glaring that I replied. As you can see, I replied to your OP. Get off your high horse.
I am actually on a pony, and you look far too amusing from up a top my tiny steed...I think I will remain here, for at least a while longer :D! Derpy derpy derp derpda derp!
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i want to fit tank turrets on my heavy.
ccp y u no do this? |
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Rifter7 wrote:i want to fit tank turrets on my heavy.
ccp y u no do this? I want a should mounted plasma caster dammit! |
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times. |
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Cat Merc wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times.
hide behind LR and you still have to face it bro you have been own |
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Aighun wrote:aden slayer wrote:Yes they should. End of story goodbye the end. Agreed. Dust is a classless FPS. Why do players always insist on hinting that anything unique about the game be removed and that it would be better if it was just much more generic and much more similar to every other game out there? Having the ability to equip an SMG or sniper rifle on a heavy and lumber around the field trying use those weapons if I want is one of the big plus features of this game.
You sir get a +1. |
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times. hide behind LR and you still have to face it bro you have been own Ever met jack boot? |
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So ... only because of me you need 'NERF ALL' topic? (still are more ppl using this combo - heavy+ar and better then me)
For CCP is easier ... ban me. Problem solved. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Few facts
1. For me is easier to get out HEAVY from my AR then adv/proto. So you AR user you do this easy to me (and you do). All hits can be placed at heavy. This is not 'equal' when you fight versus another dropsuits (we talk about AR weapon). Now talk to CCP about dropsuit balances (not weapon) ... use search button if you never do.
2. When I meet heavy-HMG I dont have enough DPS to take him - fact. Only luck/skill/position/map can alow me to win close fight with heavy... if.
3. You miss your equiptment slot? Try :)
4. You can always go around map and dont jump or hit every rock/dune/wall... it is fun :)
5. HUGE HP.. is only ilusion when you read point: 1.
6. Heavy dropsuit is the worst dropsuit here. AR is not exelent weapon.. but it can be used. I still like both.
Now back to nerf all
If scout can get eg. forge on it... it will trade all even movement speed. So probaly nice combo too to use.
I will probably play another dropsuit soon (new build). So dont worry. |
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Jack Boost wrote:So ... only because of me you need 'NERF ALL' topic? (still are more ppl using this combo - heavy+ar and better then me) For CCP is easier ... ban me. Problem solved. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Few facts
1. For me is easier to get out HEAVY from my AR then adv/proto any other dropsuit. So you AR user you do this easy to me (and you do). All hits can be placed at heavy. This is not 'equal' when you fight versus another dropsuits (we talk about AR weapon). Now talk to CCP about dropsuit balances (not weapon) ... use search button if you never do. 2. When I meet heavy-HMG I dont have enough DPS to take him - fact. Only luck/skill/position/map can alow me to win close fight with heavy... if. 3. You miss your equiptment slot? Try :) 4. You can always go around map and dont jump or hit every rock/dune/wall... it is fun :) 5. HUGE HP.. is only ilusion when you read point: 1. 6. Heavy dropsuit is the worst dropsuit here. AR is not exelent weapon.. but it can be used. I still like both.
Now back to nerf all
If scout can get eg. forge on it... it will trade all even movement speed (maybe get BIG hit box too?). So probaly nice combo too - to use. I will probably play another dropsuit soon (new build). So dont worry. ITS YOU!!! BURN HIM AT THE STAKE FOR WITCH CRAFT!
Anyway, you were the only one who posed a problem with the Heavy AR combo. I did suck that day, I averaged at around 450 WP per match (I usually do at least 1500), so something might have been wrong. |
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I was looking for a thread to post this in. I guess this one will do.
Link |
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Laheon wrote:I was looking for a thread to post this in. I guess this one will do. Link lol *Uses harden* |
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Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. Apparently people want a buff on heavies. If that happens we are all ******!!! |
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Geth Massredux wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. Apparently people want a buff on heavies. If that happens we are all ******!!! I want a buff on heavies actually... I am not afraid of them anymore, at all. I just think of them of big targets asking me to shoot at them my whole clip and watch them rage as their HMG couldn't hit me because I'm strafing. |
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Natu Nobilis wrote:Alina Heart wrote:So the Heavy should be allowed to wield light weapons but the other suits can't use Heavy weapons....
Great logic guys, makes so much sense. Check this tanks.Now: Do you think you can put this kind of weapon on the top of a regular car? And what about putting a small handgun on the top of the tank ?
The difference between a scout using an HMG and a heavy using an assault rifle is that Is that the heavy has the physical capabilities to use both.
Seriously, if you looked at a scout wielding an HMG would you think "well that is realistic"? No, I don't think you would now a heavy using an AR? YES!!!! Its quite realistic. |
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if they can carry a HEAVY gun i dont see what they cant carry a LIGHT gun
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Cat Merc wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Heavies are beasts of Armor, they can take tons of hits and shrug it off. Their only problem is that they are slow. Now, this IS a problem if they're using a heavy weapon like the HMG, but with an AR with sharpshooter, they can deal damage at medium-long range and be practically invincible. Not to mention laser rifles, which are already bad enough with Logi's and Assaults. So you can't out range them anymore. face it bro you have been own ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) No, after I died to him twice I took out my laser and melted him quickly a few times. hide behind LR and you still have to face it bro you have been own Ever met jack boost? yes why |
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Yes. The Heavy can use all such tiers of weapons because of their power assisted suits, which lets them carry heavier weapons. So they can certainly use light weapons. In fact, sidearms can also be put into ALL slots. The heavy slot > light slot > sidearm slot. There are only 2 Heavy weapons in this game anyways. Later on different suits will come with different bonuses to different because of race, which will help even this out, like the assault class may get bonus Assault rfle damage. |
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