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Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:04:00 -
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1479 1465 1197 855
The top scores in the last game, the guy with 1479 Called in two
Not only did he not have enough for two, but the 855 guy im 99 sure he wasnt in his squad because there was another play in his corp on the same team.
Some orbital glitch i dont know about? Also they were back to back like 45 seconds apart |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
116
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:05:00 -
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Ech0 0ne wrote:1479 1465 1197 855
The top scores in the last game, the guy with 1479 Called in two
Not only did he not have enough for two, but the 855 guy im 99 sure he wasnt in his squad because there was another play in his corp on the same team.
Some orbital glitch i dont know about? Also they were back to back like 45 seconds apart
Saved up 2 maybe and just used them? |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
462
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ech0 0ne wrote:1479 1465 1197 855
The top scores in the last game, the guy with 1479 Called in two
Not only did he not have enough for two, but the 855 guy im 99 sure he wasnt in his squad because there was another play in his corp on the same team.
Some orbital glitch i dont know about? Also they were back to back like 45 seconds apart Saved up 2 maybe and just used them? The problem is that they have less than 5k WP combined. I've seen this a couple of times as well, and it makes me wonder if it's really 2,5k WP for an OB or if it's like 2,3k instead or something.
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Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:15:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Ech0 0ne wrote:1479 1465 1197 855
The top scores in the last game, the guy with 1479 Called in two
Not only did he not have enough for two, but the 855 guy im 99 sure he wasnt in his squad because there was another play in his corp on the same team.
Some orbital glitch i dont know about? Also they were back to back like 45 seconds apart Saved up 2 maybe and just used them? The problem is that they have less than 5k WP combined. I've seen this a couple of times as well, and it makes me wonder if it's really 2,5k WP for an OB or if it's like 2,3k instead or something.
Yeah but the other guy in their squad had less than 200 wp so really it was 1479 1197 1465 200 total 4341 we both know it costs more than 2170 wp for an orbital
To me this is confirmation of some kind of orbital glitch. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:28:00 -
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Scores at the end of the game can differ depending on ping times. I've seen games where when comparing the scores at the end, there is slight difference in kills (never deaths) and wp, between 2people looking at the same scoreboard. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:31:00 -
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That and people can leave squads... Someone might have been in with them for half the game then moved. Also just because they are in same corp doesn't mean they are in same squad. If its a medium size corp, at peak times it's easy to see other corp mates in games. |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:31:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Scores at the end of the game can differ depending on ping times. I've seen games where when comparing the scores at the end, there is slight difference in kills (never deaths) and wp, between 2people looking at the same scoreboard.
so what? they didnt call the orbitals after the game was over. This is including points after the orbital |
Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:35:00 -
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There is definitely a glitch surrounding orbitals. I played an ambush game where the opposing team, very unsubtey, called in 4 OBs back to back after earning only 2500 WPs. I personally have no idea how the glitch works, but I do know that it exists. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:39:00 -
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Oh no! That Cipher guy called in 4 orbitals in a skirmish with only 2 corp mates on his team! How can they do that when they only have 8k wp between them!?! How dare he play with friends from other corps, that make up the rest of the SP you're desperately trying to account for.
Your original post is based on too many assumptions. |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:39:00 -
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Robert Brady III wrote:There is definitely a glitch surrounding orbitals. I played an ambush game where the opposing team, very unsubtey, called in 4 OBs back to back after earning only 2500 WPs. I personally have no idea how the glitch works, but I do know that it exists.
Im usually the first person to say bs when someone claims glitch or hack, but this is first hand experience
Let me know if you figure out how to do it. |
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
37
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:40:00 -
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you have no idea who was in the squad
also if a member of his squad left the battle before the end his WPs would not register on the end score screen |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:42:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Oh no! That Cipher guy called in 4 orbitals in a skirmish with only 2 corp mates on his team! How can they do that when they only have 8k wp between them!?! How dare he play with friends from other corps, that make up the rest of the SP you're desperately trying to account for.
Your original post is based on too many assumptions.
dafuq? |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:45:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:you have no idea who was in the squad
also if a member of his squad left the battle before the end his WPs would not register on the end score screen
No sir it is you who has no idea whether or not i know who was in the squad |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:45:00 -
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Robert Brady III wrote:There is definitely a glitch surrounding orbitals. I played an ambush game where the opposing team, very unsubtey, called in 4 OBs back to back after earning only 2500 WPs. I personally have no idea how the glitch works, but I do know that it exists. I have seen a game where my team had 4 orbitals in ambush. Game ended before I could call my 2nd one in, it's very possible, especially in stacked lobbies. |
Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.07 08:57:00 -
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Getting the WPs is possible, however like I said, they very unsubtley called in 4 back to back. I mean literally as one ended another one began. They did this until the match ended which was not very long. I am not quick to call foul play, but upon inspection of the scoreboard, the entire enemy team did not have even 5k WPs, let alone 10k WPs, and for the most part had been losing the match up until the squad got to 2.5k. It is foolish to pretend this glitch does not exist.
On a side note, it was not SI or any of its affiliates that used this exploit. |
Synther Bix
R.I.f.t
3
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:05:00 -
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Could be that someone who was in that squad timed out, and a random then jumped that squad so maybe the war points from that the guy who timed out still counted towards the orbitals or they already earned 2 orbitals with the original squad member. Could be wrong and i'm sure if i am 295 people will be ready to correct me. |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:10:00 -
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or it could be theres an orbital glitch |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
58
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:10:00 -
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Robert Brady III wrote:Getting the WPs is possible, however like I said, they very unsubtley called in 4 back to back. I mean literally as one ended another one began. They did this until the match ended which was not very long. I am not quick to call foul play, but upon inspection of the scoreboard, the entire enemy team did not have even 5k WPs, let alone 10k WPs, and for the most part had been losing the match up until the squad got to 2.5k. It is foolish to pretend this glitch does not exist.
On a side note, it was not SI or any of its affiliates that used this exploit.
Thanks for the side note, I am speaking for myself, from personal experience in previous corps. |
Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.07 09:19:00 -
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There were three people in the same corp, totaling around 3k WP. I will not assume that they did not have a fourth person in their squad without the same corp title brining them to around 3.5k WP if the next person on the scoreboard was in their squad. After calling in the second OB I checked the board finding two back to back orbitals in a ambush to be abnormal and found that the top 4 players on the team added up to only around 4k WP. After they called in a third OB and had no where near 7.5k for the team. If they had a mystery disconnect he would have had to have had 5k WP by himself, which people can say they do, but I have never seen that from even the top players in the game.
In the end I am forced to believe that there is indeed an exploit surrounding calling in continuous OB support. |
Blueberry Pop
Immobile Infantry Jr.
1
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:30:00 -
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As far as I know, a squad's individual WP total doesn't change if someone leaves or joins squad. |
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
145
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:34:00 -
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I wonder if you accumalate 2,500 WP then call in your OB and then you make a new squad in games it gives you another OB?
Worth a shot. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium
474
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:39:00 -
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Last night we had a person join our squad half way through a match and the 1500 WP he had didn't count towards an orbital. |
Blueberry Pop
Immobile Infantry Jr.
1
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Posted - 2013.04.07 15:46:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I wonder if you accumalate 2,500 WP then call in your OB and then you make a new squad in games it gives you another OB?
Worth a shot.
Again, members leaving and joining a squad do not affect the squad's running WP total. |
Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.07 17:35:00 -
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It can't be too complicated a mechanic if people are able to do it in fairly rapid succession. I would imagine it has something to do with moving squad leaders around while also calling in an OB. |
Marama Kai
Immobile Infantry
0
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Posted - 2013.04.07 20:08:00 -
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Any idea who the corp was? You should contact one of the corp leader to tell them members are doing something odd with OBs. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3363
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Posted - 2013.04.07 20:20:00 -
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Some of the IRCers have said they have confirmed an exploit, however due tot he nature of this exploit I cannot report the details nor would they share it, other than it has been reported.
If you can reproduce this exploit please petition and do not share the details and cease using it. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
883
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Posted - 2013.04.07 21:29:00 -
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Sharing an ob exploit would be very, very bad. |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.04.08 00:48:00 -
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Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Oh no! That Cipher guy called in 4 orbitals in a skirmish with only 2 corp mates on his team! How can they do that when they only have 8k wp between them!?! How dare he play with friends from other corps, that make up the rest of the SP you're desperately trying to account for.
Your original post is based on too many assumptions.
was he calling you out dude?? no he was trying to point out what might be a glitch.
sounds like someone has something to hide. |
blue gt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.04.08 00:53:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I wonder if you accumalate 2,500 WP then call in your OB and then you make a new squad in games it gives you another OB?
Worth a shot.
could be if you roll thru the squads you can stack WP from each one worth a try. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
40
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Posted - 2013.04.08 04:30:00 -
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Robert Brady III wrote:There is definitely a glitch surrounding orbitals. I played an ambush game where the opposing team, very unsubtey, called in 4 OBs back to back after earning only 2500 WPs. I personally have no idea how the glitch works, but I do know that it exists. I was in a skirmish today that wasn't very competitive. We held hack point Dog until the end with the kill count low and transfer of other hack points few. At the end of the game five orbitals dropped one right after another.
The bad-ole-days of WP orbital farming were pretty bad. This wasn't anywhere as hideous but it is an alarming thought. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
96
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Posted - 2013.04.08 06:23:00 -
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well without proof of it theres nothing you can say about and personally i don't believe you sat and count and pick out the squads of the enemy team and watch to see if any left and what not so you are just guessing at what you think happened. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
96
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Posted - 2013.04.08 06:39:00 -
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maybe i was wrong??
i'll just leave this here
CCP Frame wrote:Dear players,
Today DUST 514 will go offline for an extended period of time starting from 11:00 GMT. Server is expected to come back up at 11:50 GMT. Today we are hotfixing the Orbital Bombardment War Points drop exploit that was discovered and reported by our players via petitions.
Thank you for your patience and understanding. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67968&find=unread |
Robert Brady III
L.O.T.I.S.
34
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:13:00 -
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ladwar wrote:well without proof of it theres nothing you can say about and personally i don't believe you sat and count and pick out the squads of the enemy team and watch to see if any left and what not so you are just guessing at what you think happened.
Since you say the post by CCP Frame, I am guessing you realize by now that proof had been collected and submitted already. And yes, there are those of us who do actually sit there and watch the small things in the game. Not everyone in the world is a sensationalist. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
96
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Posted - 2013.04.08 07:24:00 -
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Robert Brady III wrote:ladwar wrote:well without proof of it theres nothing you can say about and personally i don't believe you sat and count and pick out the squads of the enemy team and watch to see if any left and what not so you are just guessing at what you think happened. Since you say the post by CCP Frame, I am guessing you realize by now that proof had been collected and submitted already. And yes, there are those of us who do actually sit there and watch the small things in the game. Not everyone in the world is a sensationalist. CCP collects their own data but without a place to look its a needle in a hay stack... still sticking to what i said about you not looking and making a guess becuase its highly probable. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1284
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Posted - 2013.04.08 09:49:00 -
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Moving to Technical Support/Bugs. |
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HUNGLIKEAHORSE1
Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance
3
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Posted - 2013.04.08 11:51:00 -
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i have came across a bug before as soon as battle shows up on t.v just hit x 3 time before anything loads then as soon as you spawn in mcc you get a ob. i have only had this happen 2 times before. Must be timed just right i guess. |
Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:08:00 -
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Yeah i told you guys there was a problem! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67968&find=unread
LOL to all the people who expressed their doubts
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Ech0 0ne
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.08 14:13:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Robert Brady III wrote:ladwar wrote:well without proof of it theres nothing you can say about and personally i don't believe you sat and count and pick out the squads of the enemy team and watch to see if any left and what not so you are just guessing at what you think happened. Since you say the post by CCP Frame, I am guessing you realize by now that proof had been collected and submitted already. And yes, there are those of us who do actually sit there and watch the small things in the game. Not everyone in the world is a sensationalist. CCP collects their own data but without a place to look its a needle in a hay stack... still sticking to what i said about you not looking and making a guess becuase its highly probable.
Still sticking with that? Because its highly probable your just flat out wrong |
noob 45
Syndicate of Gods
26
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:38:00 -
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If a single player earns 2,500 points does he get his own OB? If so then if someone in a squad gets 2,500 points they would have 2 OB?
And like the dude said multiple times about someone getting kicked from game but their contribution to the squad is saved. Called an OB in yesterday when we had 1800 points showing on the board. The tank driver crashed on us, but we retained his WP he accumulated for us (and kept the tank alive while the server slowly removed him).
Now you guys are somewhat right though. There IS a bug regarding the OB. Sometimes if you die while loading mapscreen you will lose your OB without calling it in. |
Eltra Ardell
Immobile Infantry
18
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Posted - 2013.04.08 20:14:00 -
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We have received permission to release the details of the exploit. The official release may be found here:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68054 |
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843 Unorthadox Hunter
843 Boot Camp
3
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Posted - 2013.04.08 22:19:00 -
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Ech0 0ne wrote:1479 1465 1197 855
The top scores in the last game, the guy with 1479 Called in two
Not only did he not have enough for two, but the 855 guy im 99 sure he wasnt in his squad because there was another play in his corp on the same team.
Some orbital glitch i dont know about? Also they were back to back like 45 seconds apart
You don't need to have a player in squad in corp |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
54
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Posted - 2013.04.09 02:07:00 -
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don't forget the bonuses you get from putting a defend zone on a squad member (also are you sure it was those players in the squad) |
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