And though you may be aware of the "Power Slide" there are others who are not:

Press L3 and move the Left stick in the direction you want to slide just as you hear the injector and you will cover several meters as you get up instead of standing in place like a target.

If there is cover nearby you are golden. If not, you at least outran the logi who raised you so he's the target.

I recommend practicing every time you get rezzed until you get the hang of the timing.

Think of it as being "downed" instead of killed.

i never knew that. if it works, then THANKS!

this dead horse has been beaten so much its too scared to crawl out of the ground as a zombie. It's fine as it and you can decline being rezzed, its the o to respawn button, if you want to lose a suit its your choice.

Well the point is simply, its another factor that makes k/d a broken statistic. Why not fix it? What is the benefit of having it count towards the death stat?

You could say "it gives an accurate account of your skill because getting yourself killed shouldnt be negated by someone reviving you" which would be fine, except most times you are being revived you are FAR more vulnerable than a fresh spawn. So it is completely skewing the measure as an accurate stat. Plus, playing a bit more agressive when you know a logi is there to rez you is actually smart, as it applies more pressure. Counting deaths after rez has the same logic as tallying a death any time you take more damage then your max, ignoring shield recharging or logi repairs. You play different under different circumstances.

Thus, IMO and im sure many others (including other game devs) opinions it is a more accurate stat when rez is not included.

In most games that allow for rezing a team mate in an FPS (Battlefield for example) doing so saves a "death" from a team mate. Right now in DUST, if you die, and someone uses the injector to revive you, you still get a death on your stats. This in of itself is not an issue, but if you then die again, you get another death.

I once had a game where I lost 0 suits, was killed 3 times in a row by the same sniper, and was revived each time, just to be sniped again, finally escaping the last time. I ended up with 3 deaths at the end.

To me this needs to be changed. You should tally a death as soon as you are killed, but then, if you never need to respawn, no more deaths (and perhaps no more kills earned by the enemy) should be recorded. Either that, or a death only is tallied when you actually respawn, costing a ticket and a suit.

If I am killed, but instantly resurrected, with no cost to my team or myself, then how does that hurt anyone, or act as a measure of my impact on the team? Hell if anything my death and res just got us a bit closer to an orbital...

Either the stat should be fixed, or we should have the ability to decline being rezzed so we can avoid the multiple death scenario when crazy "hero" logis revive in bad spots.

In most games that allow for rezing a team mate in an FPS (Battlefield for example) doing so saves a "death" from a team mate. Right now in DUST, if you die, and someone uses the injector to revive you, you still get a death on your stats. This in of itself is not an issue, but if you then die again, you get another death.

I once had a game where I lost 0 suits, was killed 3 times in a row by the same sniper, and was revived each time, just to be sniped again, finally escaping the last time. I ended up with 3 deaths at the end.

To me this needs to be changed. You should tally a death as soon as you are killed, but then, if you never need to respawn, no more deaths (and perhaps no more kills earned by the enemy) should be recorded. Either that, or a death only is tallied when you actually respawn, costing a ticket and a suit.

If I am killed, but instantly resurrected, with no cost to my team or myself, then how does that hurt anyone, or act as a measure of my impact on the team? Hell if anything my death and res just got us a bit closer to an orbital...

Either the stat should be fixed, or we should have the ability to decline being rezzed so we can avoid the multiple death scenario when crazy "hero" logis revive in bad spots.

Well, you do have to account for the fact that another teamate had to take time out from his regular activities to rez you. In that sense you're costing your team resources for your death. If you didn't drop they could have been killing or hacking.

No. Lets say revives don't count as deaths: There's two heavies both with a 20-1 KDR. One of them got revived 19 times. Which one would you hire for a contract, The guy who can handle himself on his own, or the guy who always needs a babysitter?

The only way it would work is if we also had a "number of times revived" stat, but then we'd just know what we already know. Yeah we're not actually dead, but everyone knows what the stat means

Other games aren't Dust, in Dust you get hired based on personal performance and ability to work with others.

Pair either heavy with a Logi, you can't tell me the team where the Logi constantly has to revive his partner would be more efficient than the other team.


Nope, there's a lot of things stats don't show us. We could have WP per Death as a stat, but how do you separate a good Logi from a guy who keeps revivng a guy while a red shoots him? Stats aren't everything, but they do give you a general idea of persons skill.

How am I taking the stat too seriously? I just said it only gives us a general idea. A guy could have a 20.1 KDR, he could be really good, he could do nothing but pubstomb noobs, or maybe he's a redline sniper. The stat on it's own is worthless.

But I don't see how your idea does anything to show us these things either, in fact it shows us less things. Maybe the guy had to get revivied 19 times cause he's an idiot and ran into groups of reds? Maybe his partner kept reviving him without clearing the area? Idk, but with your system we don't even know he spent half the match getting revived. At the end of the day both heavies still ended up with a 20.1 KDR, but clearly 1 team was more efficient than the other and our current system somewhat reflects that better than the one where revives don't count as deaths.

Edit: Instead of deaths we could call it "downs", but that sounds stupid. Everyone knows what getting "killed" actually means.

A rezzed death does not hurt the player or the team the way an actual death does