I hear listening to the community did MAG and StarHawk no good, lmao.

I said gamers. If you listen to the community you are kittened! common seriously;- take a look at this community. Bunch of whinny ass kids with little or no common sense screaming out nerf everytime they think they should have had he upper hand.

Snoozefest

I was here before most of you guys.... And I really don't care if they reset or not. Because unlike most of the people here I know what the **** a beta is, and have been in enough and wiped so many times I really don't care if they do.

The fact is ccp isn't doing anymore resets because the player base is a bunch of babies and cried cause their SP was getting reset.

And as 343 has put into practice in halo 4, resets, however much the minority QQ, does in fact give players incentive to play more, and actually boosts player numbers.

Not resetting SP in dust BETA is doing more harm than good

AFK farming is not an exploit

Kind of like Tax Fraud isn't illegal because it's possible to do?

I swear, you guys that think this isn't an exploit...lmfao smfh

Yea - even I can't deny it's an obvious exploit. Using a mechanic not intended to give yourself a boost. But the problem is CCP may not intended but they were aware Looooooooooooong before now.

Must feel like a big man talking down to everyone. Oh, but we didn't ask for no more SP resets btw - CCP promised it and we expect it. But I can see how that would confuse you...

If only CCP had a way to detect inactivity, how funny would it be if all of a sudden everyone who AFK'd lost all SP they gained that way?

Omg I would die laughing.

Not a big man, I'm a realist. I'm saying what's best for the game overall when most here are saying what's best for them.

And a vocal minority were here complaining about getting reset, but that's how it always is. The small percentage that visit here will always have a larger voice.

When if comes down to it a reset at every build until release would make the game more accessible to possible new players. As it is now, for every 1 player that plays dust once and loves it, there are 5 that don't and every time it's the response "I can't kill anyone but they can kill me"

If you think about it, that would actually be a great deterrent for future AFK farming.

We know CCP is working on an idle-detection system, so they can use logged matches to fine tune it and identify past occurrences at the same time.

We also know that the biggest problem with such a system is the arms race between the AFKers and CCP, they create the detector and the AFKer finds a workaround.

But now imagine that workaround is patched and all SP gained from it is removed!

*Poof* All incentive to find the next workaround disappears.

An initial wipe of AFK SP would serve as notice not to even try.

would no work out cause you just would make your thumbstick stuck so that your char is constantly moving. My opinion is when you havent earned at least 150WP on skirmish then you wont get any SP at all.

You're right. Come next build if things don't change this game may die before it's even launched. Vets are frustrated - new berries are frustrated - CCP seems to think there stances in EvE will be effective in a console gaming community. Hope that doesn't blow in there face. We're not as patient as PC players who expect terrible games.

would no work out cause you just would make your thumbstick stuck so that your char is constantly moving. My opinion is when you havent earned at least 150WP on skirmish then you wont get any SP at all.

would no work out cause you just would make your thumbstick stuck so that your char is constantly moving. My opinion is when you havent earned at least 150WP on skirmish then you wont get any SP at all.

If you think about it, that would actually be a great deterrent for future AFK farming.

We know CCP is working on an idle-detection system, so they can use logged matches to fine tune it and identify past occurrences at the same time.

We also know that the biggest problem with such a system is the arms race between the AFKers and CCP, they create the detector and the AFKer finds a workaround.

But now imagine that workaround is patched and all SP gained from it is removed!

*Poof* All incentive to find the next workaround disappears.

An initial wipe of AFK SP would serve as notice not to even try.

A good idea.

But the OP's idea of a full SP reset. A complete none starter to be honest. It would just annoy too many people for not enough benefit.

A complete wipe is a non-starter, but a selective wipe of unearned SP is both possible and beneficial for the whole community.

All those claiming to AFK to call attention to the practice would be able to report the effectiveness of the fix so others wouldn't try. Retroactive wipes puts CCP always ahead of the hackers instead of always behind.

We don't let bank robbers get away with a heist just because nobody stopped them in the bank. The real deterrent is the threat of being tracked down and prosecuted later.

Incoming threadnaught!!!

I honestly think a complete wipe would not be a bad thing. It has pros and cons but I think the pros could outweigh the cons. That is just me and my opinion that I get for being in this free country.

I don't have to make up CCP is facing legal issues for not making their beta up to his standards like Sota Pop. I am just speaking what I feel is good not just for ME but for the community as a whole. For those saying they will quit the game if there is a wipe, hasn't there already been like 3 wipes before? This is a beta NOT the final version of Dust514. I think people keep forgetting that.

Link to where it shows CCP getting legal issues for their BETA not being up to your standards please?

Link where anyone said they were having legal issues over that. I sure as hell never said that. You're just dumping your idiocy all over me.