Endurance in Stamina Amount/Recovery Rate respectively using Complex Cardiac Regulators
As requested by the readers of this thread

Heavy vk.0 = 525.71/56.07
Heavy vk.1 = 735.98/56.07
Assault vk.0 = 1765.47/141.23
Assault vk.1 = 1376.1/126.58
Logistics vk.0 = 1412.35/112.99
Logistics vk.1 = 2330.41/225.98
Scout vk.0 = 1788.9/132.1
Scout vk.1 = 1699.42/132.1

Confused.

Are you saying that the suits can reach over a thousand stamina? I haven't even gotten 200.

I feel sorry for all the heavy users right now.

Always said theres nothing another suit can do that us logi's cant do just as well or better :) all hail to the king logis baby!!

Always said theres nothing another suit can do that us logi's cant do just as well or better :) all hail to the king logis baby!!

This does not take into account the eventual stacking penalties on complex mods does it? If so, its probable the scout will eventually overtake logi in most these tests since its natural stats are better and thus the lack slots wont hurt as bad since the logi will get penalized.

Stealth Tanking

Suit = dB-------CPU/PG remaining
Logistics vk.1 = 8.9dB-----388.5/97.5
Logistics vk.0 = 8.9dB-----388.5/97.5
Assault vk.1 = 1.87dB-----313.5/82.5
Assault vk.0 = 8.9dB-----300.75/75
Heavy vk.1 = 20.57db-----263.25/67.5
Heavy vk.0 = 20.57dB-----263.25/67.5
Scout vk.1 = 10.68dB-----228.25/82.5
Scout vk.0 = 10.68dB-----200.75/75

I didn't go into the same depth here, but you can see that 'signal tanking' or 'stealth tanking' is a lot more forgiving on the PG/CPU than speed tanking. These numbers come from equipping the high slots with a full stack of dampeners.

For reference 4 complex armor plates add +575 HP for 120 CPU and 41 PG (significant speed reduction). All suits could get significantly more gear on though. Its not too hard to see a proto weapon, adv grenades and equipment all be able to fit there, depending on how you stack your armor.

Speed comparative analysis

Suit------CPU used/PG Used-----CPU Remaining/PG Remaining

Logistics vk.1 = 10.07m/s-----108/60-----336.19/29.5
Logistics vk.0 = 8.99m/s----- 108/60-----336.19/29.5
Assault vk.1 = 9.44m/s-----81/45-----288.19/29.5
Assault vk.0 = 9.56m/s-----108/60-----223.69/7
Heavy vk.1 = 6.77m/s-----54/30-----240.19/29.5
Heavy vk.0 = 6.32m/s-----54/30-----240.19/29.5
Scout vk.1 = 10.15m/s-----81/45-----178.19/29.5
Scout vk.0 = 10.36m/s-----81/45-----150.69/22

So I took your numbers and assumed that you were fitting max catalyzers for this analysis. I then, just to control for other variables, assumed that each fit was equipping a GEK and a fused locus grenade. Now if you look at the remaining fittings you can quickly see what you have to start to sacrifice.


Max tank

If for example you want to fit a max tank (2 complex shields for about +165 HP) the Assault vk.0 or Scout vk.0 will not be able to equip any equipment or probably no sidearms, wasting 3 slots each. The remaining suits with equipment slots would have to use only a sidearm and a single equipment slot, or two equipment slots (and only standard modules). If you'd want to increase your weapon's meta, you'd then have to sacrifice tank and/or speed, but here the assault has the advantage, because as soon as you take a catalyzer off of the scout (for a PG upgrade), the assault has a better tank and more speed than the scout. This all assumes mostly max skills. Clearly PG is your limiting factor from catalyzers.

So if you priorities are, max speed>max tank>max lethality...your possibilities are...

1) scout vk.0 at 10.36 m/s (3 catalyzers) at 403 HP (and significant shield recharge) and only a GEK/locus grenade.
2) scout vk.1 at 10.15 m/s (3 catalyzers) at 403 HP (+ recharge) GEK/grenade +std sidearm/ std equip
3) logistics vk.1 at 10.07 m/s (4 catalyzers) at 509 HP (weak recharge, but better stamina recovery than scout/assault) and only a GEK/grenade + 2 STD equipment (no sidearm).
4) assault vk.0 at 9.56 m/s (4 catalyzers) at 376 HP(no complex shields fit) and a GEK/locus grenade + a sidearm or better gun or maybe equip.
5) assault vk.1 at 9.44 m/s (3 catalyzers) at 541 HP and a GEK/locus grenade + a sidearm and/or better gun and/or maybe equip.

Here you also see what you are sacrificing to get that marginal speed bonus. For max speed, you will not get close to max damage or tank. If you threw off the last catalyzer on each of these in exchange for a PG bonus, then you could probably start to get into prototype weapons and/or equipment onto your fitting.
GǪworking on similar analysis for the other categoriesGǪ


Conclusion: It really doesn't seem worth it to be able to sprint at above 9.5 m/s to sacrifice so many other aspects of your fitting ability.

Actually, I you're confusing the profile dampeners with the precision enhancers. Profile dampeners take up low power slots.

Keep in mind though that these figures only account for prototype level suits and modules. Since future updates are expected to introduce more suits and (maybe in the future) specialization suits, these figures are only definitive until May 6. The figures also don't account for cloaking modules, shield generators, etc. which are expected to be given to us on May.

Roger that, and I still haven't seen confirmation of a rumor that dropsuit command reducing the scan profile of a suit will now be removed in the coming patch... Is that somewhere?

Nice observation there. You are correct that going for pure speed is extremely limiting. So far there is one fit in particular that can still benefit from pure speed while still benefiting from max damage and still be able to use a prototype weapon.

Ninja fit
Scout vk.1
3x complex sidearm damage mod
1x Ishukone nova knife
3x complex kinetic catalyzers

It forces the user to give up grenades and equipment but for its intended design, it's doable. But this only means that only knifers benefit from this.

Does the sidearm bonus and the melee damage bonus stack on the nova knives?

Ah, so the logi is currently even better right now? Crazy.

lol winmater carries over from EVE

Sprint Speed in meters per second using Complex Kinetic Catalyzers

Heavy vk.0 = 6.32m/s
Heavy vk.1 = 6.77m/s
Assault vk.0 = 9.56m/s
Assault vk.1 = 9.44m/s
Logistics vk.0 = 8.99m/s
Logistics vk.1 = 10.07m/s
Scout vk.0 = 10.36m/s
Scout vk.1 = 10.15m/s

lol winmater carries over from EVE