It's confimed all suits will be equal in price from next build.

I suspect they'll give the Proto Heavy a minor buff to make it somewhat on par with the Proto Assault and leave it at that.

They no longer want it to go toe-to-toe with a vehicle (which it hasn't been able to the past few builds).

So basically a Proto Heavy against a Proto Assault would be 50/50 and not in favor of the Heavy like they wanted it to be at the start of the closed beta.

Confirmed by who? Source / link?

And like you I also consider changing class if we get a full respec.

As someone said another thread, if we get to reset our SP, I'm taking ALL my SP out and putting it into Assault or Logi.

We actually want to recruit more heavies because we have plans for them.

I wouldn't do that. We actually want to recruit more heavies because we have plans for them. Heavies have a hard time right now but there is a very good use for heavies.

We can discuss tactics in game.

Use for what? Tanked Logis or Assaults can do pretty much the same as a HMG Heavy.

Cheap Railgun tanks can do pretty much the same as a Forge Heavy, if you really need a long range AV option. AV grenades can do a lot of AV work (and maybe Plasma Cannon when that gets in).

i like to think when they say a heavy and assault go 50/50 that they're taking into account the ranges the heavy dominates in and the ranges the assault player will outdamage them... and inbetween those two it's a tossup, rather than an assault suit shitting on them more often than not.

i like to think when they say a heavy and assault go 50/50

They haven't said they'll make it like that. It's just me speculating they'll make the Heavy and Assault suits be 50/50 since they're making them equal in price.

I'm not considering it, it will be done. If there is any kind of refund, every point is going into shotgun scouts.

And what if they give you a limited reallocation instead of a full SP refund for those points?

What if all your HMG points are locked to being spent on anti-infantry Heavy weapons, and the points you poured into Heavies are Large Frame only, so you can switch to a new Large Frame suit, but not a Scout?

What will you spend your points on then?

There's been MANY threads out there discussing balance of heavies. Some saying they're OP, other like myself saying the class is slowly becoming a joke.

Here's my main concern with the class. The Heavy Proto suit = B Series suit + 1 high slot.

So our proto has a total of 3 high slots and 2 low slots. OK. The price for this suit is 246k ISK. OK. Now, what's the motivation to go for this suit? 1 high slot? What's that? 66 more HP with a complex extender? 1 loldmg mod? It's nothing, so there's no real reason to have a proto heavy suit unless you wanna look pimped.

Here's my point, how is it fair that heavies are basically stuck using Advanced suits, while other classes strut around in their superior proto suits? All other classes, have FAR superior proto suits, for the fraction of the price of the inferior proto heavy.

So not only is our suit bad, it costs more. Not enough our HMG's costs more than Assault Proto suits? Nope, give us a useless Proto suit, and make it so expensive that it's not worth using.

You can say what you want about heavies, but you can't say with a straight face that it's fair we're using an Advanced suit vs Proto suits...AND ontop of that people are STILL complaining about heavies.

As someone said another thread, if we get to reset our SP, I'm taking ALL my SP out and putting it into Assault or Logi.

it IS unfair, but mob opinion usually wins out, and therefore we got shafted....HARD

i'm holding out hope that the new titan suit has a minuimum of 2000 EHP UNMODIFIED (its description says its run is a current heavies walk)

if this new update doesn't UN-shaft us, i don't know what i'm going to do.....

You're just pointing out that people would have wasted their time, money, and SP into a class then.

it IS unfair, but mob opinion usually wins out, and therefore we got shafted....HARD

i'm holding out hope that the new titan suit has a minuimum of 2000 EHP UNMODIFIED (its description says its run is a current heavies walk)

if this new update doesn't UN-shaft us, i don't know what i'm going to do.....

It's confimed all suits will be equal in price from next build.
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why and how are they going to limit the sp refund like that?

seriously think about how ridiculous that'd be to refund skillpoints only to specific skills.

Because choices are still meant to have consequences, but this way they'd allow you to get around the limits on racial suits. It would give you a head-start on an alternative version of your previous suit, but you couldn't exploit it by training something you know is getting a racial variant just so you can respec out of it later if you don't like the results.

yeah but HOW are they going to refund skillpoints yet limit you to specific choices?
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i don't know why you guys are panicing about something that ccp hasn't even said.

We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile.

I only hope we get to respec. Every point will go into scouts for me. I still like the heavy but... I LOVE scouts. However if proto heavy does get a buff like 3 high 4 low for vk.0 and the reverse for vk.1.. I might just stay on the heavy... Might....

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Not panicking but if it makes you feel better...

/equips tinfoil hat 1
/gives tinfoil hat 2 to Rifter7



EDIT: Oops. Linked source.

where's MY tinfoil hat?

I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.

How long did that take? 2 months ?

I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.

How long did that take? 2 months ?

What's also funny is how all the Standard Assaults with 400 HP cried over the Standard Heavy, and now that they're in a highly upgraded Proto Assault the Heavy is fine, when the Proto Heavy is only slightly better than the Standard.