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DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.03.27 00:02:00 -
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I only hope we get to respec. Every point will go into scouts for me. I still like the heavy but... I LOVE scouts. However if proto heavy does get a buff like 3 high 4 low for vk.0 and the reverse for vk.1.. I might just stay on the heavy... Might....
Edit: actually I won't. scouts are my fav so that's where I'll be goin |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
454
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Posted - 2013.03.27 00:03:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I only hope we get to respec. Every point will go into scouts for me. I still like the heavy but... I LOVE scouts. However if proto heavy does get a buff like 3 high 4 low for vk.0 and the reverse for vk.1.. I might just stay on the heavy... Might....
With all the new stuff (suits and weapons) plus the supposed balancing of the Heavy, and maybe other suits as well, I would REALLY like a full respec as well.
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Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
11
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Posted - 2013.03.27 00:54:00 -
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Here are my 2 cents for what they're worth. Heavies used to have a role that they fulfilled well. Wall of steel with a gun to scythe through enemy ranks. Currently the role they fulfill is that of the man providing covering fire for team mates or the bear trap that springs after the Scout comes zipping around the corner for cover. That said, I still believe that the Assault suit has a better chance of surviving sustained fire due to it's maneuverability and slot layout.
Increasing either or both the maneuverability or slot layout for the heavy and not just outright giving it more HP would solve these problems.
1. Slot layout is less than any other class and the heavy is slow
2. One additional slot on each heavy type suit of whatever kind would allow for just one more module which could be all it needs to stand toe to toe with any one enemy
3. More often than not a heavy isn't killed by a group but by one individual merc moving faster than the heavy can turn, I'll admit they shouldn't be able to sprint like Ben Johnson but have you ever watched a "Big" man go after someone who takes his food? They turn quick, possible limitation to this based on stamina rather than size. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
309
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Posted - 2013.03.27 00:59:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Rifter7 wrote:yeah but HOW are they going to refund skillpoints yet limit you to specific choices?
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i don't know why you guys are panicing about something that ccp hasn't even said. CCP Eterne wrote:We've only said we won't reset your SP to 0. We haven't said anything about not refunding your SP and allowing you to respec. That option is still on the table prior to release if we feel it will be worthwhile. - sourceNot panicking but if it makes you feel better... /equips tinfoil hat 1 /gives tinfoil hat 2 to Rifter7  EDIT: Oops. Linked source.
where's MY tinfoil hat?  |
Kaze Eyrou
Rogue Spades
92
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Posted - 2013.03.27 01:33:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:where's MY tinfoil hat?
/gives tinfoil hat 3 to GeneralTiberius1
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rebecca watson
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2013.03.27 02:43:00 -
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If you're concerned about getting kills and you spec into logi, you're going to be disappointed........
just sayin'  |
The Black Art
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2013.03.27 09:54:00 -
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I doubt all the people saying they're gonna switch dropsuits actually will. Nobody even knows anything about the new suits |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
99
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Posted - 2013.03.27 10:21:00 -
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I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.
How long did that take? 2 months ? |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
378
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Posted - 2013.03.27 10:29:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.
How long did that take? 2 months ?
I think if you looked around (did a search) you would find alot of the vets commented on how it was a issue back then and even before players saw the issue and screamed we where talking about it and how in 2 months we would be obsolete. This was the same issue we had in the last build, nothing has actually changed heavy wise. CCP still has not done anything about it.
We where all hoping CCP would get off its butt and fix the issue, they never have. CCP still has not balanced early SP class power disparities and class bell curves.
check through my old posts and exmaple cores and howdoesthattastes old posts and you will see we where trying to get them to fix it before day 1 of open beta.
this is a CCP fault for ignoring the issue, not one of heavys keeping it under wraps |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
455
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Posted - 2013.03.27 10:42:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.
How long did that take? 2 months ?
What's also funny is how all the Standard Assaults with 400 HP cried over the Standard Heavy, and now that they're in a highly upgraded Proto Assault the Heavy is fine, when the Proto Heavy is only slightly better than the Standard.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
326
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Posted - 2013.03.27 10:44:00 -
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May 6th
Hopefully 3 new racial heavy variants. With potential new racial weapons.
Why would CCP worry about balancing until they have all the variables....? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
99
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Posted - 2013.03.27 11:06:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:I think its funny how all the heavies went from "Heavies are Fine" against the blueberry whiners with 125 shield militia fits, now that those blueberries are in Protos, heavies are whining about how "Not fine" they are being killed by them.
How long did that take? 2 months ? What's also funny is how all the Standard Assaults with 400 HP cried over the Standard Heavy, and now that they're in a highly upgraded Proto Assault the Heavy is fine, when the Proto Heavy is only slightly better than the Standard.
The thing is that when i personally used the heavy that it severly limited my own abilities and bypasses them with artificial abilities that come in strong at the start but at some point run into a wall early that no matter what skill or suit used cannot be compensated for, so their power peaks early on. Its biggest weakpoint is that it cannot dictate when to fight or flee, it always has to fight, but i guess thats a choice you have to make for yourself, the assault suit can choose to run if odds are not in its favor.
The Assault suit on the other hand makes use of 100% user ability and when that ability is put into battle it gets enhanced the higher you go up the suit & equipment tiers, bads well do really bad with an assault but perform mediocre well with a heay suit.
I do wonder how they will fix this as the Heavy suit should not become the versatile assault we now have and just making it have 2k HP so that it can take on 4 assaults regardless of how good they are is again adding in Artificial skill. |
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