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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:09:00 -
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There's been MANY threads out there discussing balance of heavies. Some saying they're OP, other like myself saying the class is slowly becoming a joke.
Here's my main concern with the class. The Heavy Proto suit = B Series suit + 1 high slot.
So our proto has a total of 3 high slots and 2 low slots. OK. The price for this suit is 246k ISK. OK. Now, what's the motivation to go for this suit? 1 high slot? What's that? 66 more HP with a complex extender? 1 loldmg mod? It's nothing, so there's no real reason to have a proto heavy suit unless you wanna look pimped.
Here's my point, how is it fair that heavies are basically stuck using Advanced suits, while other classes strut around in their superior proto suits? All other classes, have FAR superior proto suits, for the fraction of the price of the inferior proto heavy.
So not only is our suit bad, it costs more. Not enough our HMG's costs more than Assault Proto suits? Nope, give us a useless Proto suit, and make it so expensive that it's not worth using.
You can say what you want about heavies, but you can't say with a straight face that it's fair we're using an Advanced suit vs Proto suits...AND ontop of that people are STILL complaining about heavies.
As someone said another thread, if we get to reset our SP, I'm taking ALL my SP out and putting it into Assault or Logi. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:22:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:It's confimed all suits will be equal in price from next build.
I suspect they'll give the Proto Heavy a minor buff to make it somewhat on par with the Proto Assault and leave it at that.
They no longer want it to go toe-to-toe with a vehicle (which it hasn't been able to the past few builds).
So basically a Proto Heavy against a Proto Assault would be 50/50 and not in favor of the Heavy like they wanted it to be at the start of the closed beta.
Confirmed by who? Source / link? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:50:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Bendtner92 wrote:And like you I also consider changing class if we get a full respec.
I'm not considering it, it will be done. If there is any kind of refund, every point is going into shotgun scouts. And what if they give you a limited reallocation instead of a full SP refund for those points? What if all your HMG points are locked to being spent on anti-infantry Heavy weapons, and the points you poured into Heavies are Large Frame only, so you can switch to a new Large Frame suit, but not a Scout? What will you spend your points on then?
You're just pointing out that people would have wasted their time, money, and SP into a class then.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.26 20:14:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:There's been MANY threads out there discussing balance of heavies. Some saying they're OP, other like myself saying the class is slowly becoming a joke.
Here's my main concern with the class. The Heavy Proto suit = B Series suit + 1 high slot.
So our proto has a total of 3 high slots and 2 low slots. OK. The price for this suit is 246k ISK. OK. Now, what's the motivation to go for this suit? 1 high slot? What's that? 66 more HP with a complex extender? 1 loldmg mod? It's nothing, so there's no real reason to have a proto heavy suit unless you wanna look pimped.
Here's my point, how is it fair that heavies are basically stuck using Advanced suits, while other classes strut around in their superior proto suits? All other classes, have FAR superior proto suits, for the fraction of the price of the inferior proto heavy.
So not only is our suit bad, it costs more. Not enough our HMG's costs more than Assault Proto suits? Nope, give us a useless Proto suit, and make it so expensive that it's not worth using.
You can say what you want about heavies, but you can't say with a straight face that it's fair we're using an Advanced suit vs Proto suits...AND ontop of that people are STILL complaining about heavies.
As someone said another thread, if we get to reset our SP, I'm taking ALL my SP out and putting it into Assault or Logi. it IS unfair, but mob opinion usually wins out, and therefore we got shafted....HARD i'm holding out hope that the new titan suit has a minuimum of 2000 EHP UNMODIFIED (its description says its run is a current heavies walk) if this new update doesn't UN-shaft us, i don't know what i'm going to do.....
Yip. I'm in 2 minds right now.
Go and try to get at least B Series assault by the time the update rolls around, or save up SP in hopes the Proto suit is worth it by then. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.26 20:55:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Rifter7 wrote:why and how are they going to limit the sp refund like that?
seriously think about how ridiculous that'd be to refund skillpoints only to specific skills. Because choices are still meant to have consequences, but this way they'd allow you to get around the limits on racial suits. It would give you a head-start on an alternative version of your previous suit, but you couldn't exploit it by training something you know is getting a racial variant just so you can respec out of it later if you don't like the results.
Consequences of choices? More like the imbalance of Proto Heavy suits as they are right now. |
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